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by woof woof ! » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:48 am
LFC #1 wrote:plaease don't talk about something you have little understanding about,
It's never stopped you from talking about Liverpool and football .
Never pegged you as someone who takes themselves so seriously .As I understand it the "Haka" is a form of welcome and challenge performed by male members of the Maori people .It's now most famously used by the All Blacks at the start of each international game of rugby .
Seeing it once or twice is quaint but do I want to see it every time the all blacks play ? I don't think so ,especially as most of the performers aren't Maori.
What next ,white south africans doing the Zulu gumboot dance ? blonde and blue eyed Americans performing a Navaho rain dance ?
Yeah LFC , lets take it all a lot more seriously .

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by LFC #1 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:02 am
woof woof ! wrote:LFC #1 wrote:plaease don't talk about something you have little understanding about,
It's never stopped you from talking about Liverpool and football .
Never pegged you as someone who takes themselves so seriously .As I understand it the "Haka" is a form of welcome and challenge performed by male members of the Maori people .It's now most famously used by the All Blacks at the start of each international game of rugby .
Seeing it once or twice is quaint but do I want to see it every time the all blacks play ? I don't think so ,especially as most of the performers aren't Maori.
What next ,white south africans doing the Zulu gumboot dance ? blonde and blue eyed Americans performing a Navaho rain dance ?
Yeah LFC , lets take it all a lot more seriously .

So because I am not from Liverpool I am therefore ignorant about the club and the city? I'm sure not everyone would agree with you there.
I am not saying beacuse you are English that you have little knowledge on the subject but saying you'd get the players to take a
on the halfway line (not sure if you were saying it in jest or not, but still wasn't called for IMO) definitely shows a bit of ignorance.
It is done as a challenge, you are correct, and is a big part of New Zealand rugby culture and why not do it ever yagem, it's a great spectacle.
You're not Maori argument is flawed. The Maori culture was the only dominant culture in NZ before European settlement and thus our anthem is still sung in Maori and many white people have Maori descendants anyway. White New Zelanders are allowed to do it anyway. When i was about 12 and living in NZ, our school which had a large number of Maori students visited a Marae, which is a traditional Maori place for spiritual meeting of hteir people. One of our teachers was Maori and 4 of us had to perform the haka in fornt of Maori elders nad the students, and I think their was only one Maori amongst the four of us, the Maori people weren't bothered by this at all.

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by LFC #1 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 7:34 am
woof woof ! wrote:LFC #1 wrote:??? It's never stopped you from talking about Liverpool and football .
4 of us had to perform the haka in fornt of Maori elders nad the students, and I think their was only one Maori amongst the four of us, the Maori people weren't bothered by this at all.
Maybe I should have put a smiley face after the first comment , you obviously take yourself a lot more seriously than I do .
As for you and some friends performing the haka , it is laudible that the "settlers " and their decendants have adopted some of the indigenous peoples customs . Still, it doesn't mean that I want to see the Haka EVERY time I watch your mob playing rugby.

I tend to be quite laid back, but not when i see a comment which i believe is distasteful towards my nation. Even if it was meant in jest it can still seem quite offeensive.
Anyway woof I know you are a pretty intelligent lad, and like to have laugh, and wouldn't have intended to cause any offense, so am willing to let bygones be bygones. 
I am off to work now anyway.

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by stmichael » Tue Jun 28, 2005 10:16 am
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yes i know it was basically a pub team we were playing against but there were some impressive performances. shane williams must have played his way into the test team at the expense of jason robinson.
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