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by **Big Niall** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 10:04 am

No disrespect to SG but Souness is miles ahead of him. One hard ba*tard. Great passer too, could control many a game at any level. Would have beaten Roy Keane at Keane's peak (SG still can't)

Dalglish reckoned Souness was the man, which is enough for me.

by **anfieldadorer** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:21 pm

i started watching liverpool intentionally since about year 1982 (yes, i am that old). And I have now about 6 out of 14 Liverpool DVDs about Liverpool at Kenny's to Beardsley's era (including final '77; '78; 81 and '84', some compilations of classic matches; official history and 501 goals). To me, Kenny is the most miraculous phenomenon (of player) ever in LFC . He's got every skill, good opportunity and luck required by a football player. Beardsley is just another legend of Liverpool, he's decent but not extraordinary to me. Souness -in his position, should simply be included in the all-times Liverpool main squad.

by **112-1077774096** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 1:54 am

anfieldadorer wrote:i started watching liverpool intentionally since about year 1982 (yes, i am that old). And I have now about 6 out of 14 Liverpool DVDs about Liverpool at Kenny's to Beardsley's era (including final '77; '78; 81 and '84', some compilations of classic matches; official history and 501 goals). To me, Kenny is the most miraculous phenomenon (of player) ever in LFC . He's got every skill, good opportunity and luck required by a football player. Beardsley is just another legend of Liverpool, he's decent but not extraordinary to me. Souness -in his position, should simply be included in the all-times Liverpool main squad.

annie did you get my reply to your pm, it says in my hotmail there was a problem delivering it?

by **anfieldadorer** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 4:15 am

Yes i just replied your reply, peewee.
cheers, mate

btw, please continue folks

by **azriahmad** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 8:04 am

peewee, do you still want to have a fight with me over my Fowler-Owen comment?

Seeing how you tend to celebrate Liverpool's achievements, I reckon you are still half drunk and I really fancy my chances...

Continuing on this thread, there is no player to date who can top Kenny's achievements and contributions at LFC. Beardsley may have a better close control on the ball but Kenny is the greatest bar none.

by **Big Niall** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:48 pm

I don't think ANYONE said that Beardsley was better or as good as Kenny.

How good was Keegan? before my time.

by **JBG** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:12 pm

Does anyone remember the Snickers magazine add featuring Peter Beardsley from about 7 or 8 years ago?

Snickers had a series of adds built on the premise "Not going anywhere for a while".

It featured Beardo sitting in a chair in front of a mirror in what is obviously a make up artists' studio. He has a big goofy smile on his mug and you can quite clearly see the shocked visage of the make up lady in the reflection in the mirror.

It was a class ad but most of all, like Gareth Southgate's Pizza Hut ad, it showed the guy had a sense of humour and didn't take himself too seriously.

by **dawson99** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 7:27 pm

but didnt beardsley end up sleeping with a load of his mates wives when he joined... cant remember where...

was madness, face like an :censored:

but pulled all the birds

by **parchpea** » Wed Jun 22, 2005 10:09 pm

I find it highly unlikely that Beardo managed to bed any of his colleagues partners during his Liverpool days. He was a great player ofcourse, in a very exciting team. A love god? Dont think so. When Kenny rebuilt the team we played with more attacking flare than ever before. We poured forward and no one could stop us. When Beardsley got the ball you knew good things would happen. All kinds of things went wrong toward the end of Dalglish's reign that spilled over into the Souness era. At this point Souness decided to tear apart the old guard to such and extent that he and the club never recovered. As a player, Souness was everything Gerrard is now or can hope to be. Outstanding.

by **112-1077774096** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 2:21 am

azriahmad wrote:peewee, do you still want to have a fight with me over my Fowler-Owen comment?

yeah

by **anfieldadorer** » Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:25 pm

peewee wrote:
azriahmad wrote:peewee, do you still want to have a fight with me over my Fowler-Owen comment?

yeah

then you both get set

by **Sean** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:15 pm

Kenny Dalglish is the greatest player in our history. Following his achievements on the pitch and the manner with which he carried the club following Heysel and Hillsbrough, I reckon he should be given the father figure role at the club that Beckenbauer has at Munich.

Souness was fantastic, as hard as nails. After he left for Sampdoria in '84 Kevin McDonald, Jan Molby, John Wark and Steve McMahon were bought to try and fill the void. Ultimately, Jan Molby and Steve McMahon did a great for us in midfield but I think Dalglish delivered a masterstroke when he converted Ronnie Whelan from a left sided midfielder to a central midfielder in 1985. During '85 and '86 he had a great partnership with Molby and in later seasons he and McMahon were brilliant. None of those midfielders were as influential as Souness but were able to combine to produce the goods for us in midfield.

When Beardsleys name is mentioned, I recall that great team of 87/88. Beardsley, Adridge, McMahon and Houghton were sold far to prematurely. Their experience combined with McManaman, Redknapp and Fowler would have launched another great era. The spice boy culture would certainly never have been allowed to develop and Instead we had the dreadful '90's.

by **JBG** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 8:47 pm

Sean wrote:When Beardsleys name is mentioned, I recall that great team of 87/88. Beardsley, Adridge, McMahon and Houghton were sold far to prematurely. Their experience combined with McManaman, Redknapp and Fowler would have launched another great era. The spice boy culture would certainly never have been allowed to develop and Instead we had the dreadful '90's.

I want to pick up this point.

It was clear that we had problems in 1991, and Daglish's last team was aging, and a few cracks were beginning to show. However, we had some great young talent coming through - Redknapp (a Daglish signing remember), Fowler and McMannaman.

If we had kept hold of Steve Staunton (who himself was young at the time) who went on to be one of the best left backs in the Premiership in the 1990s, Peter Beardsley (who played to an extremely high standard well into the mid 1990s), Ray Houghtan and coaxed another season out of McMahon, and made some shrewd buys, then the foundation for another great team would have been laid and there would have been a smooth transition from the Daglish to Souness era.

by **65-1114725958** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 12:53 am

It seems that some DORK has deleted my post!

i want an explanation!

Is this not the "general Discussion" Room? where chat is free

This is a scandal.

obnoxious!

Stu, you dont know about Dalglish?....makes me chuckle!
And stop calling Beardo a "lad" seeing as you are only 14 yourself.

by **azriahmad** » Sat Jun 25, 2005 3:47 am

In reply to Big Niall, I was very young when Keegan was the main man but I was already a Liverpool fan.

Keegan was a buzzing, enthusiastic and busy player who has a tremendous amount of work-rate. Those who underestimate him would say that he is not "naturally talented" but one who became very good after supremely practising honing his average skills until he became that good - utter b*ll*cks. Keegan was an excellent player and had a very good partnership with John Toshack, little and large strikeforce.

In his final game for us in our first European Cup final in Rome in 1977, he gave a certain terrier of a defender (who was on of the top markers in Europe then) called Bertie Vogts a very rare complete run-around. Pure calss, even though he idi not manage to cap it with a goal.

After the match, my elder brother and I, being fanatical Liverpool fans, were devastated that Keegan would be leaving Liverpool, yet we noticed a certain Scotsman who was utterly brilliant at Celtic, even cheekily scored through Ray Clemence's legs in an England vs. Scotland match in the previous season and thought "this fella would be a briliant replacement".

As it turned out, Bob Paisley did buy this brilliant player who became the best of the lot at Liverpool.

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