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Postby Ciggy » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:03 pm

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Glazer sons join Man Utd's board 

Malcolm Glazer's triumphant bid to buy the club has angered fans
Manchester United has announced the appointment of Malcolm Glazer's sons Joel, Avram and Bryan as new non-executive directors of the club.
The announcement came as chairman Sir Roy Gardner said that he stood down from his post on 6 June.

Non-executive directors Ian Much and Jim O'Neill have also both resigned.

Mr Glazer has won almost complete control of the club shares as part of his controversial £790m takeover of the club, much to the anger of supporters.

At the end of the May, the board recommended that shareholders accept the £3 a share being offered by Malcolm Glazer for the remaining stakeholding he does not own.

Mr Glazer currently owns about 76.2% of Manchester United's shares.

On 16 May the billionaire said he had raised his stake in Manchester United to over 75%, finally gaining full control of the club.

He is expected to delist the club's shares by 30 June, in a move would end United's 14-year presence on the London Stock Exchange.

On Tuesday the club also said that Andy Anson had been re-appointed as club commercial director. He was one of the three directors that Glazer voted off the board last November.
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Postby Ciggy » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:09 pm

MALCOLM GLAZER could leave ManchesterUnited with staggering debts of £1.55BILLION after his takeover.

the American tycoon's proposals, which reveal huge penalties if he fails to pay back on time the massive £645m he has borrowed.

Glazer has taken on the huge debts after paying £3-a-share to take United off the stock market.

And Nick Towle, chairman of action group Shareholders United, said: "Glazer isn't so much tied up with loan sharks — he's got himself involved with a plague of locusts!

"United chairman Sir Roy Gardner resigned saying Glazer had provided no assurances about future debt levels, transfer funds, non-interference in team selection and so on. Now we see the true horror of it all."

Glazer has borrowed £275m from American hedge funds, which specialise in lending money to risky ventures at high rates of interest.

And there are big penalties if he fails to pay back on time. Towle said: "The total debt could easily reach £1.55bn if Glazer does not hit all his repayment targets.

"That's the big fear for all supporters.

"Glazer has already paid £100m more for United than most experts said it was worth — and now he faces another hidden £105m dealing with the hedge funds alone."

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Glazer has also borrowed £265m from JP Morgan and the interest rises to a staggering 20.1 per cent — or £55m — in 2009.

Football finance expert Simon Banks said: "The takeover documents show incredible borrowing. Hedge funds here, £55m there, a £50m credit facility and £40m allowed for capital expenditure.

"It seems that when United told Glazer to put up or shut up they did so after looking at the international finance market.

"They never imagined he'd borrow so much at such high rates of interest. In turn, Glazer was stuck with all the shares he bought up at £3 a go and had to come up with something.

"He has been forced into extremely high risk areas."

Incredibly, United could accumulate staggering debt of £1.65 BILLION if it all goes horribly wrong for Glazer and he fails to redeem the preferential shares sold to high risk hedge funds for £275m.

Other figures show that the potentially crippling repayment schedule on loans totalling £644m mean that:

* Sir Alex Ferguson could have £25m to spend on players this summer-but after that the cupboard is bare.

* By next May alone the cost of redeeming the staggering £275m worth of preferred securities obtained from three hedge funds could cost the club £105m.

* The cost of repaying the £265m borrowed from J P Morgan will have rocketed to £55m year by 2009.

And all this from a club that this year announced pre-tax profits of just £27.9m after paying dividends of £7m to shareholders.

None of this information was contained in the takeover proposal plan sent to shareholders last week. But closer examination of Glazer's plan have emerged after scrutiny of crucial documents at the London office's of his lawyers Allen & Overy.

The problem with Glazer's hedge fund arrangment is that it will cost him as much as £60m to redeem the preferential shares and another £55m of rolled up interest if, as expected, he moves to reduce this debt after May 2 of next year.

And while repayments to J P Morgan begin with two seperate cheques of £8m in January and July 2006, the percentage of the debt repayment rises to a mighty 20.1 per cent in 2009. The amount increases each year, so by 2009 they'll be paying back a massive £55m a year.

All of which will leave Ferguson with no money in the tranfer kitty after this summer. And should Sir Alex call it a day in a year's time the new Old Trafford boss will be forced to sell before he can buy.

"It's crazy and increases our fears that he may sell and lease back Old Trafford to buy back the preference shares."

Fans are certain to vent their fury at that prospect at a public rally at the Apollo Theatre in Ardwick tomorrow afternoon.
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Postby Ciggy » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:18 pm

:laugh:  :laugh: the view my badge for a pound a minute is class :laugh:

* By next May alone the cost of redeeming the staggering £275m worth of preferred securities obtained from three hedge funds could cost the club £105m.

* The cost of repaying the £265m borrowed from J P Morgan will have rocketed to £55m year by 2009.

And all this from a club that this year announced pre-tax profits of just £27.9m after paying dividends of £7m to shareholders.

They havent won anything and it looks like Nike will pull out of sponsering them, there club is full of glory hunters probably on chelsea and liverpools bandwagon now.
How the :censored: are they going to pay any of this back?
This fella is going to seriously make them bankrupt, well he has already i think. Wheres that fella neville hates sh.it or something, I notice hes not on here now  :D
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Postby dawson99 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 1:31 pm

quality posts, but unfortunately its not all doom and gloom for manure.
the debt borrowed does not have to be paid in any part for around 15 years due to the type of loan and the state of the team at the moment. the company providing the loan tho can ask for all of the money back at any tiem (this has never happened in the past)

it all depends on the next season so expect manure to do everyting possible to try to at least win something for once :D
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Postby zarababe » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:26 pm

:laugh: gawd we are so happy at there sorry plight .. it's all so dastardly ... :D
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Postby LFC #1 » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:31 am

Zara, before you feel any sympathy whatsoever , remember that they are mancs. :D
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Postby babu » Wed Jun 08, 2005 8:44 am

Unfortunatly Glazer did not come in to destroy the club (as a LFC subversive agent), but rather he must have a plan. He is not dumb, he will have a plan, whether it is freeing up cash to pay the loans of in full or other means of paying interest.
Its interesting he appointed his sons to the board though. They must extremely knowledgeable about the english FA as well have good contacts in europe. ???
But hopefully he does stuff up and force united to sell old trafford :D
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Postby 116-1104673748 » Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:33 am

Yeah,imagine had the Thai PM bought Liverpool.They said he planned to buy it with government money.

And I will NOT miss a rival like MU.
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Postby Woollyback » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:20 pm

Glazer's plan is simple, to suck as much money as he possibly can out of ManU fans

They danced with the devil when they went plc and enjoyed the instant rewards, now it's payback time :laugh:  :laugh:

I've no sympathy for them whatsoever
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Postby the great one » Wed Jun 08, 2005 4:44 pm

I don't see why its a great day because Malcolm Glazer sons are on the Manchester united board once he got 75% of the company, he was always gonna put someone on the Manchester board he trusts. Who can you trust more than your sons :)

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Postby PrestonLaaa » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:28 pm

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:On 16 May the "billionaire"


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cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:MALCOLM GLAZER could leave ManchesterUnited with staggering debts of £1.55BILLION after his takeover.


Woollyback wrote:Glazer's plan is simple, to suck as much money as he possibly can out of ManU fans

They danced with the devil when they went plc and enjoyed the instant rewards, now it's payback time :laugh:

I've no sympathy for them whatsoever


Think that about sums it all up! :D

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Postby laza » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:48 pm

Well im happy about it but who knows which club will be next.
I guess there are now two reasons for Glazer takeover to be a complete disaster
One it may stop any more of these greedy soulless raiders from taking over clubs and two naturally its Manchester United :)


The Premiership could face an influx of more American interest if Manchester United's takeover by Malcolm Glazer is successful.

United fans are far from happy with Glazer's takeover at Old Trafford (NealSimpson/Empics)

Clark Hunt, whose family own the Kansas City Chiefs in America and knows the Glazer family well, says a move into Europe, even the Premiership, is something that he would not rule out if things go according to plan at Old Trafford.


Hunt told Radio Five Live's Sportsweek programme: 'We are seeing the globalisation of sport all around the world. Of course, soccer or football, is really truly a world sport so it will be the vanguard of this globalisation.

'I would think it would be logical at some point that you would see some of our other owners buying teams in Europe and conversely I think we are going to see the same thing coming back to the United States.

'We will see that crossover around the world which will do nothing but accelerate the sport on a global basis.'

When asked if his family would consider following Glazer's path, Hunt confirmed they would keep a close eye on developments and would not rule out a move into English football.

'There is definitely a chance,' he confirmed. 'We have our hands pretty full right now. We are running three Major League Soccer teams but as we move forward it is definitely something we will look at.

'We will follow the United story with interest. We follow the sport in the US as well as Europe, so we will keep our eyes on how things are going over there.'

Hunt also took the time to reassure United's worried fans that Glazer's takeover of the famous club would not be a disaster.

United's fans are already dismayed by Glazer's £790million takeover which has been funded by massive loans from various banks and financial institutions.

They believe United's future is on line under Glazer's control and are already facing increases in season ticket prices and the prospect of a £25million-a-year transfer kitty cap.

According to what was claimed to be a leaked business plan from the Glazers this week, United fans face ticket price increases of as much as 50 per cent over the next four years and the prospect of Old Trafford being sold and then leased back to the current owners.

But Hunt defended Glazer's move saying: 'On the ticket prices, one of the unfortunate aspects of professional sport is the need to raise to ticket prices.

'This is not a great thing for the fans but its the reality if you want to keep the teams competitive.

'With regard to the sale lease-back, that is not something I've read about or heard about and it is a little bit of a different concept than we typically have in the US.

'There the teams are playing in facilities that are maybe owned by the local government on some kind of favourable lease or they outright own the facilities themselves.

'If the Glazers do follow through with that it would be something different than what we are used to over here.'

But Hunt believes the Glazers' control of United can be a good thing for the club, its fans and the Premiership.

He added: 'I would tell the fans not to be very worried at all. It must be difficult having one of your national treasures, if you will, owned by a group of Americans, but the Glazers are very good business people.

'You can expect they will be very focused on continuing to be very successful, much like they have been with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

'They realise that part of being successful from a business standpoint is having a winning team and they will be very focused on that as they take the club forward.'

However, Glazer's alleged plans to increase season ticket prices was met with 'disgust' by Oliver Houston, a spokesman for Shareholders United.

He told Radio Five: 'We are disgusted but not surprised at all because we said that he would have to raise ticket prices and have to push the commercial revenue and everything else just to make the business plan make sense.

'He has such huge loans and the interest on them has to be paid back very quickly. But tickets are just one aspect.

'Let's not forget the only reason they are being raised is not to invest in the team, not to make it a better product, simply raising ticket prices to pay off his interest, his debts and his loans.'

United are expected to announce record season ticket sales of more than 40,000 tomorrow but Houston was not impressed.

He added: 'For the first time this year the club extended the deadline for season tickets because so many people refused to renew theirs.

'Many have given up their season tickets and others will continue to go to the games but will not buy merchandising or catering and do everything they can do to put a stranglehold on Malcolm Glazer's income.

'Everybody thinks his business plan will fail and it is up to us as fans to push him over the edge.'
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