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by **morientes_gerrard** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:24 pm

Juventus game: Alonso played, Gerrard out.

Xabi looked emense and it was his first game back. His vision and ability to pass is just amazing. Gerrard is a big player yes but is Xabi more key?

Also good to see Djibs back in the squad, and I wish him well!

So Xabi or Gerrard? Is it possible to be a force without Stevie G next season woth Alonso around?

by **barnesrush** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:35 pm

quick answer yes

by **dawson99** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 7:40 pm

we are a force with xabi... we are a force with stevie

id rather be a force with both than just with one.
just a shame that so far they havent had much to do together as one ro the other is always injured, lets see how the rest of the season goes

by **Red Macgregor** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:01 pm

Alonso and Gerrard a mouthwatering combo !!
Alonso was immense against Juventus, shirked no tackles, controlled the supply of Liverpool ball, he was the heartbeat of the team. Gerrard would have added the driving force, if only we can get the two together !! We will rip the heart out of Europe !!

by **Ciggy** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:27 pm

Xabi the coolest player at liverpool and the best :cool:

by **Paul C** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:31 pm

I think Xabi is as good as Gerrard, the best thing about it he is still young and will get even better, but I think both playing in the team would be a blessing

by **coolsobs** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:38 pm

previously i would have said that xabi would need to work on his takling to become a better defensive player but in that game his tackling was amazing

by **JohnnyAldridge fan** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:41 pm

Personally I beleve with both we have the best midfield pairing in the premiership,we havent seen a better passer of the ball since Molby when it comes to Alonso.

by **115-1073096938** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:46 pm

He is a defensive player with that ability to create. Where as Gerrard is a defensive player with the ability to drive forward.

Both have the potential and correct mix of talent to become immense. What Gerrard needs to realise is he'll never control a game like Alonso does and never be able to pass like Alonso does, Gerrard needs to play his own game, have Xabi in the there with him playing his own game and we'll be laughing.

Alonso and Gerrard are both capable of holding and creating and they need to find the right mix. Xabi is Similar to Hamann in the way they are both holding midfielders, but he has an attacking intend in every pass.

He's a deep lying play maker. Gerrard is sort of an attack minded ball winner. They have the right mix, its just weather they can be moulded into a partnership.

by **JBG** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:22 pm

I think Stu that Benitez has 3 central midfielders in mind in a 4-2-3-1 formation.

Look at what he has played this season when he has had most of his midfielders fit:

Alonso Hamman

Gerrard Garcia Riise

This is echoed by Benitez' Valencia side, when he would play Aimar, Albelda and Baraja in the centre.

Gerrard could learn a lot from Alonso. Gerrard has many bad habits such as his desire to hit killer balls with every touch, when really 90% of really good midfield play means recycling and keeping posession.

by **the return of HAS** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:33 pm

John Barnes' Granny wrote:I think Stu that Benitez has 3 central midfielders in mind in a 4-2-3-1 formation.

Look at what he has played this season when he has had most of his midfielders fit:

Alonso Hamman

Gerrard Garcia Riise

This is echoed by Benitez' Valencia side, when he would play Aimar, Albelda and Baraja in the centre.

Gerrard could learn a lot from Alonso. Gerrard has many bad habits such as his desire to hit killer balls with every touch, when really 90% of really good midfield play means recycling and keeping posession.

Spot on JBG.

I don't think the Gerrard is that well suited to the way Rafa wants to play anyway. Rafa likes his players to play a short passing game. Gerrard hasn't developed that part of his game yet. It's the final stage for him and I think he will have to learn that at Chelsea because they play that way a lot.

by **A.B.** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:44 pm

I think he will have to learn that at Chelsea because they play that way a lot.

I disagree about him going to Chelsea.

Mourinho has two good midfielders that are both essential to his squad, Makalele is the unsung hero in the midfield. He does all the dirty work, and does it well while Lampard goes forward.

If Gerrard were to come Chelsea would Mourinho bench Makalele or Lampard in order to play Gerrard? I don't think so. Gerrard and Lampard are too a like in my opinion and therefore the central-midfield would be a ruin for Chelsea thats why I don't see Gerrard going to Chelsea.

I think Gerrard would be at his best at Barcelona.

by **the return of HAS** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:46 pm

A.B. wrote:
I think he will have to learn that at Chelsea because they play that way a lot.

I disagree about him going to Chelsea.

Mourinho has two good midfielders that are both essential to his squad, Makalele is the unsung hero in the midfield. He does all the dirty work, and does it well while Lampard goes forward.

If Gerrard were to come Chelsea would Mourinho bench Makalele or Lampard in order to play Gerrard? I don't think so. Gerrard and Lampard are too a like in my opinion and therefore the central-midfield would be a ruin for Chelsea thats why I don't see Gerrard going to Chelsea.

I think Gerrard would be at his best at Barcelona.

They play this system and probarly with these players next season:

Cech

Ferrira Terry Gallas(Carvalho) New Left Back

Makelele
Gerrard Lampard
Joaquin Robben

Drogba(or new striker, possibly Adriano)

by **Tlplaya** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:49 pm

agreed, if the two got a chance to play together that would be great, a powerful combo of finess, control and xabis defense if this keeps going. Now when we consider that gerrard could possibly leave ,we shouldnt forget that another world class midfielder could take his place. personally i think that if benitez uses the 4-2-3-1 a quick fast moving fast paced player like ronaldinho would be an even better asset, do you guys agree??
if the 4-4-2 is played , than again a a midfielder that is fast paced and intelligent with the ball yet defensivly effective is needed. you guys agree?

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by **A.B.** » Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:50 pm

Cech

Ferrira Terry Gallas(Carvalho) New Left Back

Makelele
Gerrard Lampard
Joaquin Robben

Drogba(or new striker, possibly Adriano)

Considering that the Russian's favorite player is Duff, I doubt that he will be left out of the squad. Joaquin will end up joing Real Madrid.

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