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stu_the_red wrote:Certain players need to buck up or get lost. Kewell's attitude since he signed has been a disgrace. He's got alot of ability but rarely shows it. I don't know weather its confidence or lazyness, but something has to change, he's got 11 got the remaing games, he's got to play in most and play well when he plays. If not, he's got to go.

supersub wrote:

stu_the_red wrote:Certain players need to buck up or get lost. Kewell's attitude since he signed has been a disgrace. He's got alot of ability but rarely shows it. I don't know weather its confidence or lazyness, but something has to change, he's got 11 got the remaing games, he's got to play in most and play well when he plays. If not, he's got to go.

Agree certain players have to buck up their ideas but to give Kewell the last remaining games,is an absolute no-no.Quite frankly he,in his attitude,has kicked his last grass turd in my view.That guy has no desire to play football and his very presence in the first 11 mmeans we only have ten players on the pitch.

stu_the_red wrote:Steven Gerrard, he plays when he feels like it. When he plays well, he's immense. Truely world class. But thats not often enough. 3 out of every 10 games is not good enough and going missing in big matches is also not good enough for a player of his "calibre". His attitude MUST change for the good of this club if he stays, take a note from Roy Keane's book Steven, he was well ****** off at losing to Milan. Thats the attitude to have, don't dare question your team mates or manager if you aren't doing it yourself.

The right attitude and mentallity is a massive weapon. Look at the effect it had on Everton after selling Rooney, their team spirit is immense, they haven't got the best players in the league, maybe a top 10 side in terms of ability, but there attitude has been immense this season. They've played out of there skin and it shows in the current league table. Chelsea are another example. They have the quality, probably no more than Arsenal or Man Utd in truth, but the fact they believe they are the best and play like they are unbeatable makes them what they are. They truely believe they are as good as people say, which kind of makes them that good.

You can spot class and ability a mile off. Yes tey need time to show there best, but if they don't show something straight away within two games, the chances are they never will. With Alonso and Morientes and even Garcia you could see there was quality there from the second they pulled on the shirt. Morientes brain and awareness, Alonso's passing acuracy and ability to control the pace of a game and Luis Garcia's ability to play at a high tempo with one touch passing. They all stood out straight away. Whereas Nunez and Josemi have shown.... well, i won't say nothing. But very little to suggest they are quality players.

We know what you are saying but you have contradicted yourself there a few times!

Firstly./  Harry Kewell....He is total tosh, and him talking at the beginning of the season that "you aint seen the best of me" is rubbish. He aint shown jack squat in a liverpool shirt, apart from 2 games last season. when he gets tackled he looks like he wants to cry.

You are right stu saying that you can tell a good player as soon as they touch a ball, and in the first couple of games.

I dont knw what benitez see's in the likes of Biscan, by keeping him, and letting diouf.diao go out on loan, cause he is poor.

You've yapped on about Evertons and chelseas team spirit, regardless of quality, and then said......"you can spot ability and class a mile off! " what quality do Everton have? a bunch of second rate players?
you also said "the chances are if they dont show quality within the first two games, they never will" !

Everton are just LUCKY! in their results. they never beat anyone 4-0! just lucky 1-0 scrapes.


Yes and Everton, and even us don't have  quality right now.

Team spirit means Jack Sh*te. Im sure Yeovil town and Wrexham have team spirit, but if u are getting stuffed every week, what does it matter.

Think your being hard on Stevie G too. For what he has done, he shouldnt have to produce every game, considering he usually is carrying the team! he's probably knackered.
Nothing wrong with his attitude at all.

how about the others show more effort?


Never mind Roy keanes book, either, the Irish Hoodlum.

Finally, Rafa has done a lot better than Houllier if you aks me.
OK points are not much better, but the players he has brought in speak in load volumes,,,,morientes, Alonso etc and the fact he has loaned out and sold many players shows that he isnt that concerned with the squad situation and will bring in the right players.