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by **Dalglish** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:55 am

Hi Scott, looks like the LFC spin doctors have finally got to Stevie

by **Judge** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 10:36 am

LFC #1 wrote:Source: lfc.tv

After experiencing the worst day of his life in Cardiff on Sunday Steven Gerrard remains determined to fulfil his boyhood dream of one day lifting a trophy as Liverpool captain.
Gerrard was left devastated by the 3-2 Carling Cup Final defeat to Chelsea at the Millennium Stadium.

And to compound his misery it was his 79th minute own goal that allowed the Londoners back into the match.

"I said before the game it would either be the best day of my life or the worst. Now it's the worst. I really felt we were going to hold on to the win," says the Reds skipper.

"It was a freak goal which has turned the game their way. I tried to stretch as far as I could to head it away but there was nothing I could do about it. I've never scored an own goal in my life and I can't believe it's happened in a final."

Gerrard was inconsolable at the end of a gruelling 120 minutes action in the Welsh capital but already he's talking of avenging this cruel defeat.

He adds: "I'm gutted for the lads and the supporters but we've now got to try and stay focused on qualifying for the Champions League.

"If we come fourth it will feel like we've won a cup final now because Everton have a big lead over us. This has made me more determined than ever to help us get into the top four. I haven't given up my dream of lifting a trophy as Liverpool captain.

"It's going to be a tough ask for us to win anything this year now, but we'll give it our best shot in the Champions League. Our hopes are still alive. If we get through and Chelsea get through I'd like us to meet them again because I'd fancy our chances."

thank god for you LFC1, now perhaps the Fu*king SG whingers may back off

by **the return of HAS** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:41 pm

I don’t see why everyone is making such a big deal about Steven Gerrard. The issues are quiet clear:

1 – He will leave in the summer, most likely to Chelsea. I won’t blame him for going. Plus we will get valuable transfer funds that will allow Rafa to rebuild.

2 – He has had a poor 6-10 weeks that continued on Sunday. But he has and always will put in all his effort when playing for Liverpool.

3 – He will remain in the team and as captain for the rest of the season as long as he isn’t injured or suspended.

4 – Has he lost concentration, been distracted by a likely transfer.

Number 4 is the only issue that can be seriously debated.

by **mistyred** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 6:55 pm

f@ck all this SG ****** supporters ere 50-50 with the whole saga but i'm 100% in the fact that i don't care less, If you are the kind of person to back down cos people disagree with your veiws then you are not worth sh.1.te so stand by what you say and mean it.

I have watched LFC before Gerrard and have no doubt i will be watching them when he goes and what makes people think that just because he might just score a goal people will change thier views for the day? i am sure not everybody is that shallow.

by **The Ace1983** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:08 am

Steven Gerrard. Say it and you think of Liverpool. You think passion, world class and, unfortunatley, money. I've been a big supporter of Stevie G, and I've defended him in the past but after the last four or five weeks, the thought has been creeping into my mind that it's time to cut the cord, grab the cash and start afresh. It's starting to look like the whole situation is really starting to affect the form and spirit of the team. The speculation, rumors, constant conversation and lies floating around the media and the fans is bound to affect the other players and it's hard to fathum any other reason for our violently erratic form of late. Even withen matches, we can look fantastic for twenty minutes, shocking for the next fifteen, mediocre after that and then brillient for the last half hour. Gerrard, one of our finest players of recent years has now become a problem, going from patriotic captain to depressed, lack-lustre, pining for madrid, average player the next.
I believe that one of two things has to happen for the team to settle again. Either he signs a brand new, 5 year contract or he goes and we get the cash to secure two good players. None of us really know what is going on in the minds of Stevie, Rafa or any of the other players. I'd hate to see him going to Chelski, Real or anyone else, but needs must as the devil drives. Who knows what the future brings....?

by **Judge** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:03 pm

the return of HAS wrote:I don’t see why everyone is making such a big deal about Steven Gerrard. The issues are quiet clear:

1 – He will leave in the summer, most likely to Chelsea. I won’t blame him for going. Plus we will get valuable transfer funds that will allow Rafa to rebuild.

2 – He has had a poor 6-10 weeks that continued on Sunday. But he has and always will put in all his effort when playing for Liverpool.

3 – He will remain in the team and as captain for the rest of the season as long as he isn’t injured or suspended.

4 – Has he lost concentration, been distracted by a likely transfer.

Number 4 is the only issue that can be seriously debated.

unlike your comments, he wont be a HAS been. know what i mean

by **A.B.** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:13 pm

The Ace1983 wrote:Steven Gerrard. Say it and you think of Liverpool. You think passion, world class and, unfortunatley, money. I've been a big supporter of Stevie G, and I've defended him in the past but after the last four or five weeks, the thought has been creeping into my mind that it's time to cut the cord, grab the cash and start afresh. It's starting to look like the whole situation is really starting to affect the form and spirit of the team. The speculation, rumors, constant conversation and lies floating around the media and the fans is bound to affect the other players and it's hard to fathum any other reason for our violently erratic form of late. Even withen matches, we can look fantastic for twenty minutes, shocking for the next fifteen, mediocre after that and then brillient for the last half hour. Gerrard, one of our finest players of recent years has now become a problem, going from patriotic captain to depressed, lack-lustre, pining for madrid, average player the next.
I believe that one of two things has to happen for the team to settle again. Either he signs a brand new, 5 year contract or he goes and we get the cash to secure two good players. None of us really know what is going on in the minds of Stevie, Rafa or any of the other players. I'd hate to see him going to Chelski, Real or anyone else, but needs must as the devil drives. Who knows what the future brings....?

Top notch post

by **crazyhorse** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:31 am

Good post. The thing is the Spanish league will be perfect for Gerrard - the added time that you get in that league will allow him to really shine.
He will be a hero over there - perhaps the first very english player to really cut it in Spain?

by **The Ace1983** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:04 am

crazyhorse wrote:Good post. The thing is the Spanish league will be perfect for Gerrard - the added time that you get in that league will allow him to really shine.
He will be a hero over there - perhaps the first very english player to really cut it in Spain?

I wouldn't say the first. I would say that two other former reds have done a pretty good job. Macca was fantastic for Real and real fan favorite. Scoring in two CL finals, taking home 8 (or 9?) medals in different competitions and staying over there for a good part of his career. Alright, he didn't always start, but being second choice to Figo and Zidane at the hieght of their careers isn't too bad.
As for Owen, we are all aware that he is frustrated by the lack of starting places, but this is going to change now. Raul is out for at least 3 games, and Ronaldo has voiced some concerns over his own fitness and tiredness. Plus, Owen has by far the best goals to minutes ratio in La Liga this year and the fans call for him avidly in every match. He isn't going anywhere and it looks as if his full potential will be realised in Spain.
As for ol' Ballons D'or (or "Golden Balls" for the uneducated, non french speaking fans) he hasn't done that bad. His form hasn't been as sparkling as it had been at Man Ure, but he is now seen as a vital part of the team and he is pickin up again.
As for Darren Anderton's succesor for the title "Sick Note", Jonathan Woodgate, who knows how good he will be, who knows if he WILL actually play a game?

I'm not saying Gerrard wouldn't be a success, as he undoubtably would be, IF he does go over there, but not necessarily the FIRST success. Personally, I'd rather he would sign a new contract with the Reds, but whether or not that will happen, who knows?

by **TunisianFan** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:25 pm

I think that if Steven G leave LFC that would be a great disaster for the club cause he's a Mersey boy and one of the few players how can let LFC win the champions League.
So please try to dissuade him to leave rather than glorifying the other players.
:rock:

by **crazyhorse** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:12 am

The ACE 1983 you are quite right of course. What i meant was the Stevie, with his strength and great range of passing would become a Legend in Spain. The pace is slower and there is more time in midfield for him to exploit. He is a different player than any you mentioned and Macca was good over there but i dont think he will be remembered by the Real fans as we do. Owen has it all to do and will be successful but his time will be limited no matter how many goals he knocks in.
Gerrard could be captain of Real Madrid, and could stay many years and engrave his name in the foundations of the Bernabau.
I would rather he did it here though!

by **The Ace1983** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:58 am

crazyhorse wrote:The ACE 1983 you are quite right of course. What i meant was the Stevie, with his strength and great range of passing would become a Legend in Spain. The pace is slower and there is more time in midfield for him to exploit. He is a different player than any you mentioned and Macca was good over there but i dont think he will be remembered by the Real fans as we do. Owen has it all to do and will be successful but his time will be limited no matter how many goals he knocks in.
Gerrard could be captain of Real Madrid, and could stay many years and engrave his name in the foundations of the Bernabau.
I would rather he did it here though!

I agree with everything you say dude. Plus, with Zidane heading to the end of his career and with Beckham dying to move onto the right wing, a space opens up in centre mid which Gerrard would be perfect to fill. Of course I'd rather he did it here, but a long term contract may be the only way to end this unsettling speculation. I can't see that happening and with the likes of Juanito, Aimar and Baraja all interested in coming to Liverpool, that £30m+ would be very handy.

by **TunisianFan** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 6:55 pm

It's evident that SG can be the future leader and captain of the Real Madrid but LFC will be once again obliged to buy 4 or 5 other french players (like we did in this last 4 years) to supply the "made in Liverpool" ones , and i don't think that the club didn't make all the possible to make them stay (I talk about Macca, Owen, Fowler,...)

by **anfieldadorer** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 10:25 am

Gerrard: New Benitez assistant?

Gerrard gives Benitez a helping hand

Rafael Benitez has revealed that Steven Gerrard will have an input into Liverpool’s future new signings.

Benitez is constantly asking the Liverpool captain for his opinions in an attempt to develop a successful future for the once World-conquering team.

Benitez told Sky Sports: “I always talk to Steven about my ideas for the future and he knows that we want a strong team around him.

“Sometimes I have told him about players I am looking at because I want him to understand we are working very hard for the present and the future.

“When I decided to sign Fernando Morientes I asked Steve what he thought.

“I asked him if he liked Morientes as a player and what he thought he could bring to the team.”

by **JBG** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:35 pm

I'm sick of Gerrard.

I now think we should sell him out of general principle.

I was an enormous fan of his until his outburst before the Olympiakos game and his performance in the first 80 minutes of that match, both of which were a disgrace to the shirt.

When a player starts thinking he is bigger than the club - and Gerrard is thinking exactly that - then you have no option but to sell him. Beckham got too big for his boots at Man UTD and he was shipped out, we need to do the same with Gerrard.

I cannot stand all of this "Prove you're good enough to keep me" nonsense! Shankly must be turning in his grave.

I guarantee Benitez privately wants to sell Gerrard as Stevie G has undermined him all season.

Gerrard? Liverpool fan my ar5e, if he really was a fan he'd know his conduct is completely unacceptable.

The faster we get rid of him the better, nothing less than apologising to the club, manager and fans would satisfy me now. I could accept if he was personally unhappy but kept it to himself, Benitez and Moores, but whinging to the media before every big game is beyond the pale.

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