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by **Ciggy** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:17 pm

What is it with this former red pundit, he got on my nerves on saturday comentating on the everton game, he was so far up manures @rses him and Motson, they done me bleedin head in.

Hope we win tonight and the cup on sunday shut everyone up, sick of it.

I can't see Liverpool winning both games this week Feb 22 2005

By Mark Lawrenson, Daily Post

WHAT a week for Liverpool. The return of the Champions League followed by the Carling Cup final is an exciting double by anyone's standards. Both games will be difficult, and as I write this, I can't see Liverpool winning both of them.

The match they will have more trouble with is tonight's at Anfield. That is not to underesti-mate Chelsea, but instead is a recognition of the players available to Rafael Benitez, and the negative attitude the Germans will almost certainly have.

Looking at Liverpool first - no Steven Gerrard, no Xabi Alanso, no Fernando Morientes. That leaves them with only Jamie Carragher and Milan Baros left of their key men.

Imagine Manchester United without Roy Keane, Ruud van Nistlerooy and Paul Scholes, or Arsenal without Patrick Vieira, Robert Pires and Thierry Henry to get some idea of how important the Anfield trio are.

In my opinion, that means Benitez has no option but to pack the midfield with Baros as a lone striker, in the hope of breaking the visitors down through move-ment and incisive passing.

That will be a big ask though because even though Leverkusen are not Inter Milan or Real Madrid, they will be well organised and resolute, as well as keen to snatch a goal on the counter-attack.

It places a lot of pressure on the likes of Harry Kewell, John Arne Riise and Luis Garcia, who will have to support Baros as much as they can.

As it stands, I think Benitez would happily accept a 1-0 scoreline to take to Germany, but 0-0 is more likely.

Come Sunday and the cavalry arrives over the hill. Gerrard and Morientes will come back into the side and they will be needed because Chelsea have been very strong this season.

However I think Liverpool have a great chance of beating them, because unlike the Germans, Chelsea have to come out and play which will leave gaps.

They are also struggling at the moment and have to play tomorrow, 24 hours closer to the final than Liverpool. A bad result against Barcelona and their players will start to look at themselves a bit closer, with a bit more doubt seeping in.

The key for Liverpool is to ensure Gerrard can get forward to support Baros and Morientes, but also to attack with width, because Chelsea are very strong through the centre.

Leaving aside any sort of footballing logic, I also have a hunch that Liverpool are due a victory over Chelsea. They were unlucky at Anfield against them, and I am backing them to come through.

by **stmichael** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:18 pm

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:What is it with this former red pundit he done my head in on saturday comentating on the everton game, he was so far up manures @rses him and Motson, they done me bleddin head in.

Hope we win tonight and the cup on sunday shut everyone up, sick of it.

I can't see Liverpool winning both games this week Feb 22 2005

By Mark Lawrenson, Daily Post

WHAT a week for Liverpool. The return of the Champions League followed by the Carling Cup final is an exciting double by anyone's standards. Both games will be difficult, and as I write this, I can't see Liverpool winning both of them.

The match they will have more trouble with is tonight's at Anfield. That is not to underesti-mate Chelsea, but instead is a recognition of the players available to Rafael Benitez, and the negative attitude the Germans will almost certainly have.

Looking at Liverpool first - no Steven Gerrard, no Xabi Alanso, no Fernando Morientes. That leaves them with only Jamie Carragher and Milan Baros left of their key men.

Imagine Manchester United without Roy Keane, Ruud van Nistlerooy and Paul Scholes, or Arsenal without Patrick Vieira, Robert Pires and Thierry Henry to get some idea of how important the Anfield trio are.

In my opinion, that means Benitez has no option but to pack the midfield with Baros as a lone striker, in the hope of breaking the visitors down through move-ment and incisive passing.

That will be a big ask though because even though Leverkusen are not Inter Milan or Real Madrid, they will be well organised and resolute, as well as keen to snatch a goal on the counter-attack.

It places a lot of pressure on the likes of Harry Kewell, John Arne Riise and Luis Garcia, who will have to support Baros as much as they can.

As it stands, I think Benitez would happily accept a 1-0 scoreline to take to Germany, but 0-0 is more likely.

Come Sunday and the cavalry arrives over the hill. Gerrard and Morientes will come back into the side and they will be needed because Chelsea have been very strong this season.

However I think Liverpool have a great chance of beating them, because unlike the Germans, Chelsea have to come out and play which will leave gaps.

They are also struggling at the moment and have to play tomorrow, 24 hours closer to the final than Liverpool. A bad result against Barcelona and their players will start to look at themselves a bit closer, with a bit more doubt seeping in.

The key for Liverpool is to ensure Gerrard can get forward to support Baros and Morientes, but also to attack with width, because Chelsea are very strong through the centre.

Leaving aside any sort of footballing logic, I also have a hunch that Liverpool are due a victory over Chelsea. They were unlucky at Anfield against them, and I am backing them to come through.

don't worry lynds. if lawrenson says we won't win twice, that means that we definitely will.

by **Ciggy** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:19 pm

True hes always gettin the scores wrong on Lawros predictions aswell :glare:

by **Paul C** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:20 pm

Lawrensen's a c**t and should have been shot at birth!!!!!!!

I hate that guy, he never has anything good to say about LFC considering he's an ex-red :angry:

by **Ciggy** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:21 pm

StMick whos the bird on ya fiver anyway

by **stmichael** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:25 pm

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:StMick whos the bird on ya fiver anyway

that's my missus :;):

by **Ciggy** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:27 pm

Oh ok

by **taff** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:33 pm

To be honest I kind of agree with him
I would be happy taking 0-0 to Germany and see what theyre made of at their home it will be a hard game tonight

If we win or dont concede a goal Ill be made up

by **Nando** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:36 pm

the pressure our players and management team get just from daily premiership routines are huge, but then we get constant pressure from the pressure, the gerrard saga will long continue and we keep getting all these former players criticising us, now and again fair enuff but it seems to be the same 1s pipin up over and over again, how can you optimistic wiv all this negativity surround our club?

by **Paul C** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:51 pm

taff wrote:To be honest I kind of agree with him
I would be happy taking 0-0 to Germany and see what theyre made of at their home it will be a hard game tonight

If we win or dont concede a goal Ill be made up

Thats the possitive attitude to have :glare:

by **haps** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:55 pm

in fairness to lawrenson, i reckon he's just a frustrated fan when in comes to liverpool. same as we all get. think he'd love to see us successful again. He didn't say anything that untrue anyway - we are missing key players, the sausage munchers will play a tight game and try to frustrate us and he said we'd beat chelsea, so i reckon he's not stuck it to us as much as hansen did a few weeks back. Mind you - don't like it when he's crowing about the scum. Maybe 'shot at birth' is a bit harsh; a small calibre on the shin.

by **Iceman69** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:31 pm

we might not win at all this week!

by **109-1105722616** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 3:38 pm

i do think that some of the criticism that liverpool has recieved from ex-players has been justified but prehaps a bit inflated, but you need to understand that lawrenson and hansen played in a world beating liverpool team, and it must anger them to see us play the way we did against birmingham and southampton and burnley and manchester united and everton and portsmouth and watford(although we won, we werent great).

ive got a lot of time for hansen but that swarmy little tool lawrenson is doing my head in

by **Ciggy** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:38 pm

Iceman69 wrote:we might not win at all this week!

Oh your full of the joys of spring I must say

ffs talk about not havin ay faith in the team.

by **Stan Laurel** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:41 pm

Nice to hear from you, Lyndsey!!

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