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by **115-1073096938** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 12:54 am

Carragher and Xabi have been our best players.

Followed by Riise and Finnan.

Baros has been our most important so far.

by **supersub** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 1:14 am

Agree with stu on this one.

by **bigmick** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:00 am

stu_the_red wrote:Baros has been our most important so far.

Anyone who follows his posts with any interest (& I certainly do) will know that from the Stumeister, this is praise indeed. "Important" is an interesting choice of word. Certainly, by virtue of the fact that in missing 'only' about a quarter of the season Baros has been our most available forward, and in the fact that at times he has carried our attack on his back then I would tend to agree.
All that said though,even though "important" was a clever choice I think that overall Carragher would just about shade any vote.

by **The_Rock** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:10 am

stu_the_red wrote:Baros has been our most important so far.

waiting for you to say that

by **The_Rock** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 10:13 am

bigmick wrote:All that said though,even though "important" was a clever choice I think that overall Carragher would just about shade any vote.

Carra is deffo the player of the season this season for LFC. Anyone wants to bet with me against it ?

by **lili** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:41 am

by **lili** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 11:44 am

But i think in the run in to the end of the season Morientes will take over as our most important player.

by **liamac** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:35 pm

I know I am a killer for telling people to add posts to existing threads, and not start a new thread, but I add this for two reasons:

1) It says what I know a lot of Liverpool fans have been thinking this season, and is a nexcellent well thought out take on the saga that is Stevie G.

2) I have tried to read through the pinned Stevie G thread at the top of the page, but too much rubbish in it has left me lethergic over the idea of shuffling through it, so if others feel the same, this may not get the airing it deserves.

I think Leon is telling him self off before all of us who have had his self appointed Moderators boot up our @rse can come down on him like a ton of bricks.

Critisism aside , its a very good point about about Alonso , the fact that ive pointed it out on more than a few occasions that Alonso is more influential in midfield is neither here nor there .................smug look on liamacs face :cool:

by **115-1073096938** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 7:43 pm

Brilliant again today i see.

by **A.B.** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 8:09 pm

Gerrard is p1$$ing me off. His dragging himself and the team[more like 11 players who can't play as a team] down. It's the Owen saga all over again and I'm getting tired of it, I'm sure you lot are too.

by **Ade** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 8:50 pm

Some great points in that article, and in the posts since.

FWIW, I think SG looked poor against Utd, home and away this season, and in some of our European games. But to be fair to him, there haven't been many occasions over the past few years where Keane has got the better of Gerrard. Vieira has, consistently, until this year, but not Keane.

Also, Stevie has already been playing at the top level for 6 years. Players in the modern game either burn out quicker or slow their game and adjust. Keane hasn't been the box-to-box player of old for some years now, but this season he's been superb. Stevie needs to learn to mix his game and I'm sure with Rafa and Alonso he can do that. But with Biscan, or a tiring Hamann? Fact is, our bad injuries this season have ****** everything up.

The model that SG needs to learn from is Keane, or Xavi at Barca. Running games with economy, simple passing, reading the game, but then Keane and Xavi have a lot better players to play with.

For my money, we're getting towards a win-win situation over Gerrard. If we sell him, we get 30m and the chance to sign 4 very good players - Sean Wright-Phillips must be one of them.

If we don't sell him, we keep one of the best midfielders in Europe - and we keep him because the club's owners have stumped up serious investment for Rafa to go out and buy two or three top players.

He must surely be looking at Owen's situation now and wondering if it's a good idea to jump. The Owen story was so predictable.

by **liamac** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 9:49 pm

your dead right about the Owen situation Ade, how or why he decided to go to Real was and still is beyond me ......He was always going to be 3rd or 4th in the pecking order because or the status that Raul and Ronaldo have at Real , plus not forgetting that Nando was a crowd favourite.

by **A.B.** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:57 pm

For my money, we're getting towards a win-win situation over Gerrard. If we sell him, we get 30m and the chance to sign 4 very good players - Sean Wright-Phillips must be one of them.

You're calculations are wrong by a mile. If you play to sign four players,SWP being one of them, with 30 million, that will not work because earlier this season Manchester City valued SWP at 25 million. The only way I would buy SWP is if his price would be at a maximum of 10 million, nothing more than that.

Downing is another player we should look at it, but the problem is that he's a young talented English player whose price will be too high.

I think Aimar may sign with us in the summer if we were to sell Gerrard[which looks like we are] and that would be a great business move.

by **JBG** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 11:09 pm

Man City will no more get £25million for SWP than we will get £50 million for Steven Gerrard.

Just because Kevin Keegan said he values SWP at £25million and Rick Parry values Gerrard at £50million doesn't make it so.

Man City are staring down the barrell of a prospective financial meltdown and would sell SWP for £12million next summer if someone was to come in for him.

If Gerrard were to go Liverpool can ask Chelsea/Madrid/ whoever for £50million but will get no more than £30million if Gerrard wants to go.

Parry didn't say that Liverpool would seek £50million for Gerrard if he were to leave. He said he'd turn down a transfer bid of £50million for the player if it came in, but if Gerrard wanted to go, then Liverpool wouldn't stop him. So if Gerrard rings Parry and Moores next June and says: "I'm off" the most Liverpool will get from Chelsea is £30million, unless of course Madrid start a bidding war.

by **Judge** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 9:09 am

John Barnes' Granny wrote:Man City will no more get £25million for SWP than we will get £50 million for Steven Gerrard.

Just because Kevin Keegan said he values SWP at £25million and Rick Parry values Gerrard at £50million doesn't make it so.

Man City are staring down the barrell of a prospective financial meltdown and would sell SWP for £12million next summer if someone was to come in for him.

If Gerrard were to go Liverpool can ask Chelsea/Madrid/ whoever for £50million but will get no more than £30million if Gerrard wants to go.

Parry didn't say that Liverpool would seek £50million for Gerrard if he were to leave. He said he'd turn down a transfer bid of £50million for the player if it came in, but if Gerrard wanted to go, then Liverpool wouldn't stop him. So if Gerrard rings Parry and Moores next June and says: "I'm off" the most Liverpool will get from Chelsea is £30million, unless of course Madrid start a bidding war.

good post and agreed

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