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Postby The_Rock » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:25 pm

i am pretty desperate for a right winger......

1)as long as he has pace
2)Can cross
3)can take on defenders
4)can score goal.

we should sign him......
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Postby El Guapo » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:29 pm

I have seen Andy Reid play quite a lot (being an out-of-towner from Dublin) as I go to every home and some away Ireland games, when he's on form he's pure quality, have only seen him play badly once (away v Switzerland, though the whole team had an off day). If we could get him ahead of Spurs and Everton he would be a useful addition to the starting 11.
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Postby The_Rock » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:35 pm

I don't know about andy reid....we need someone who I know can play well in the premierleague  :D

Wayne Routledge can be 1 of them. heard he is a scouser too.

SWP will be my 1st choice and i read somewhere that spurs put in 17 million pound bid for him  ???

Pennant can also do.....

Would be happy with any of the above players.
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Postby stmichael » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:37 pm

how the hell have spurs got 17m to spend? ???
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Postby stmichael » Wed Jan 19, 2005 4:48 pm

It has become obvious that good wide men would go a long way to creating alot more chances for us to win more games.

Although I do admit there are other more pressing problems such as our lack of depth, poor reserve/youth team and the general mediocre level of most of the squad.

You see all top three team in the PL create space in central areas for their midfielders by their wide men pulling defenders apart..Henry, Pires, Ljungberg at Arsenal, Robben/Duff at chelscum and Ronaldo, Giggs, Fletcher at the Scum. It not only creates goals from crosses and cut-backs on the flanks it also creates openings for the more central midfielders to feed the strikers and get shots on goal.

How many times have we failed to even get a shot on target this season..defences are finding it very easy to play against us due to our lack of diversity in our attacking approach.

I think SWP, Vicente may be a bridge too far for us financially. I'm hoping that Kewell finds his form again and we can perhaps put in a bid for Wesley Sneijder of Ajax..fast, creative and has great delivery. I don't think Nunez has enough quality in the long run and Garcia is not a wide man in the true sense of the word.
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Postby 109-1105722616 » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:03 pm

azriahmad wrote:A CL qualifying finish is still the priority in the absence of an Abramovic-esq investor at Liverpool and frankly, we are not good enough to win the FA Cup this year anyway. An extended run would have the risk of picking more injuries.

I still support Rafa and think that he will bring us forward in many more ways than GH had done by winning insignificant cups (the League Cup and the Super Cup) but failing big time to get closer to the Premiership title.

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the improvements are being made and i dont think our current squad would have made it in the fa cup, it is alreay a bi thin becuase of injuries
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Postby FrankM » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:25 pm

The_Rock wrote:I don't know about andy reid....we need someone who I know can play well in the premierleague  :D

Thing is we were saying the same about SWP last year and Damien Duff a couple of years earlier.
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Postby FrankM » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:29 pm

# Team P W D L F A W D L F A Pts GD
1   Blackburn Rovers 17 3 4 1 14 8 5 3 1 15 7 31  14
2   Aston Villa 14 6 1 0 14 4 3 2 2 13 9 30  14
3   Birmingham City 16 4 1 3 9 6 5 2 1 13 10 30  6
4   Manchester City 15 4 1 1 13 8 5 1 3 16 12 29  9
5   Manchester United 14 4 1 1 16 7 3 3 2 14 9 25  14
6   Wolverhampton Wanderers 14 2 2 3 7 4 3 2 2 10 10 19  3
7   West Bromwich Albion 15 1 5 3 6 9 2 2 2 6 6 16  -3
8   Newcastle United 12 4 1 4 7 9 1 0 2 3 6 16  -5
9   Liverpool 15 2 1 4 7 11 2 3 3 9 12 16  -7
10   Bolton Wanderers 12 0 3 4 10 16 3 2 0 9 4 14  -1
11   Middlesbrough 11 2 2 3 9 12 1 2 1 4 6 13  -5
12   Leeds United 13 1 2 2 7 9 2 1 5 9 14 12  -7
13   Nottingham Forest 13 2 0 4 5 10 1 3 3 2 5 12  -8
14   Everton 14 1 3 3 7 12 1 3 3 5 12 12  -12
15   Sunderland 13 0 2 3 4 11 2 0 6 8 13 8  -12
Last updated at 15:45 on Wednesday 15 December 2004

Dont know if this table will come through properly but if it does I think it shows what we should be expecting too much from the kids at the moment
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Postby stmichael » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:30 pm

FrankM wrote:# Team P W D L F A W D L F A Pts GD
1   Blackburn Rovers 17 3 4 1 14 8 5 3 1 15 7 31  14
2   Aston Villa 14 6 1 0 14 4 3 2 2 13 9 30  14
3   Birmingham City 16 4 1 3 9 6 5 2 1 13 10 30  6
4   Manchester City 15 4 1 1 13 8 5 1 3 16 12 29  9
5   Manchester United 14 4 1 1 16 7 3 3 2 14 9 25  14
6   Wolverhampton Wanderers 14 2 2 3 7 4 3 2 2 10 10 19  3
7   West Bromwich Albion 15 1 5 3 6 9 2 2 2 6 6 16  -3
8   Newcastle United 12 4 1 4 7 9 1 0 2 3 6 16  -5
9   Liverpool 15 2 1 4 7 11 2 3 3 9 12 16  -7
10   Bolton Wanderers 12 0 3 4 10 16 3 2 0 9 4 14  -1
11   Middlesbrough 11 2 2 3 9 12 1 2 1 4 6 13  -5
12   Leeds United 13 1 2 2 7 9 2 1 5 9 14 12  -7
13   Nottingham Forest 13 2 0 4 5 10 1 3 3 2 5 12  -8
14   Everton 14 1 3 3 7 12 1 3 3 5 12 12  -12
15   Sunderland 13 0 2 3 4 11 2 0 6 8 13 8  -12
Last updated at 15:45 on Wednesday 15 December 2004

Dont know if this table will come through properly but if it does I think it shows what we should be expecting too much from the kids at the moment

but it hasn't :D
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Postby The_Rock » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:38 pm

stmichael wrote:how the hell have spurs got 17m to spend? ???

tell me abt it  ???
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Postby JBG » Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:56 pm

Good post Leon.

I was thinking about the 12 defeats myself last night, not hugely encouraging, is it?

The dust is now settling on Benitez' start to his Anfield career, and there have been plus points and negative ones.

He hasn't been brilliant, but he hasn't been dreadful, either.

Time will tell how he will fare, but there are some good omens.

As I posted in one of the crazy knee jerk threads last night, the sad reality is that we are currently stuck in a cycle of battling it out for 4th place every year. Thats not going to change over night, and Benitez will need time to forge a break through side like Wenger did in 1998 (Wenger did it quickly, but had a terrific defence to build on). This could take a couple of years, and we will have to bear with him until then. There's going to be no dramatic change in our league position over the next 30 months or so (i.e. I doubt will even finish 2nd in the next season or two) but unless there's a flood of money by way of a big investment, we'll just have to be patient.

People can be impatient all the want like they were last night, but that amounts to throwing the toys out of the pram as the simple fact of the matter is, he don't have £50million to spend on players next summer.
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Postby Redrider » Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:02 pm

The defeats are a clear indication of the slight gulf in the class difference between some of the players in our side and those players of the teams presently above us in the league. although I suspect Everton are there on their additional level of pure endeavour and teamwork, that we currently lack. The hope is that we can bridge this gap with some astute purchases. The pity is that we can not do more about it, during this current transfer window.
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