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by **catenacio** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:06 am

For me, Igor would make an excellent deep, base of the diamond holding midfielder.

Here he would not be found out positionally, as it is more of a reactional than positonal role. He could use his excellent pace (quicker than didi but then so am i !! - no offense didi) and superb range of passing. This coupled with the defensive skills he has recently acquired and his willingness to show for the ball every time (please take note didi and stop hiding!!) to be the fulcrum of our team.

For those of you didi lovers -why not play them both centre mid (deep) and let kewell and gerrard play left and right respectively and bomb on!

by **jonnymac1979** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 2:50 am

True, he does have more pace than Didi, but would this formation work for us?

Gerrard is a central midfielder, and the team should be built around him, he is the engine. I don't think he should be played on the right, even though when played there, he would do a job, because he, believe it or not, actually gives a s##t, and is proud to wear the shirt. However, he needs to be played at central midfield.

by **Red in USA** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 5:16 am

While I agree that Igor is faster than Didi, he does not posses Didi's technical ability nor he can match Didi's experience and presence in the heart of midfield. Maybe in the future he can replace Didi. As far as Gererd in concern, he is no wide boy. We need a trye winger on the right side to work with Kewell on the left and deed the strikers. Until then, LFC, you'll never walk alone!

by **hd7ac** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:22 pm

you have got too be jokin havnt you! do you honestly believe Biscan should play?? He is the worst player i have ever seen in a liverpool shirt, can tackle cant pass no positional sense the list goes on but i would be here all day!
He should be sold straight away if anyone would buy him witch i very much doubt!

by **Coley** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:33 pm

I can't see it either i'm afraid. If you just watch Biscan (and forget the rest of the game) during a match, he really does not have any positional sense whatsoever and isn't a good reader of the game. Maybe the impact of these faults would be lessened in midfield, but he isn't good enough i'm afraid. I think Didi and Stevie is centre mid is best with Kewall left and then we need a decent right winger. I'd rather have Diao come in to the middle than Igor i'm afraid.

I do feel a bit sorry for poor old Igor though, at the end of the day he doesn't pick the team, so it's not his fault he is at centre half etc.

by **Bring Dalglish back** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 12:56 pm

You don't have to be a statistical gurru or read the game at too much of a latent level to realise this equation: Liverpool defence playing bad + a loss = IGOR BISCAN.

Let me put it another way; if Manchester United had to do without Rio Ferdinand for eight months and had to make do with Igor Biscan in their side, there would be a huge sense of unease among the Old Trafford fans.

I went to the Spurs game and Biscan was rubbish - GET HIM OUT!!!!

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:21 pm

It is true that his best position is in the anchor man role, but Didi Hamman is better in that role.

As for the formation change with two holding midfielders, we want to move foward as a team that formation would take us back two steps.

by **JBG** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:38 pm

People who think that Biscan can do a job for Liverpool as Hamman's long term replacement are kidding themselves.

Its true that it is his natural position but he's here more than three years now and has consistently disappointed and he is simply not up to the level expected.

I would like to see John Welsh given a chance.

by **Cool Hand Luke** » Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:45 pm

I hope John Welsh is not wasted, the problem is on the moment is that he is not a natural holding midfielder and is to similar to Gerrard, we should have loaned him out this season.

Also JBG, you mentioned buying Butt and Wiltord and can only assume you were drunk.

by **catenacio** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:50 am

Has i strongly disagree that to play 2 deep midfielders hence allow both wide men to attack at once is a retrograde step. Think of it as liberating and not spoiling.

Gerrard is one of the best crossers of the ball i have ever seen. When he played right mid and right back he covered a QUARTER of the pitch.

Thinking as i type he would also make a superb wing back. I do not rate his shooting consistancy or creating ability from the tip of the diamond - this fredom is wasted on him in my opinion, and he is better deployed elsewhere.

by **big al** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:29 pm

Do you want to give me a bloody heart attack!

Bdb your right mate Biscan is sh1t I can see it you can see it and nearly everybody in football can see it even some of the prats on sky sports but why can't Houleir see it is he blind.

I have long thought that Houlier had lost it but only since he started to play Biscan in the team. Remember it all started last year near Christmas and we've been s##t ever since. Back then I was hoping Babble would recover quickly sadly no. Carragher then recovered the right back position, good I thought, Then Biscan started in Mid-field, bloody disaster, Then he ended up in centre halve, biggest bloody mistake ever made. What is the problem is Houleir F**king blind.

You know what, to Stu and all you other Houleir supporters, Biscan and Houleir's total misjudgement over him is what is really Why I think he's a s##t manager. I can see the problem, loads of fans can see it even idiots like Ron Attkinson can bloody see it and he's a ***** so why can Houleir not see it.

Biscan cost us the Chelsea game at Anfiled by doing a walkies on Veron, He followed that up by allowing Aresenal too much space for Peres wonder goal and perhaps even the Hypia deflection. He p#ssed about with Man U again to our detriment need I go on. Spurs just proved every thing I'ver been saying since the beginning of the season. Don't beleive me go back to all my early posts and they are all focused on Biscan. He is cr#p, He's brought an outsatnding defence to be cr#p. Hypia constantly either over compensates or more recently puts too much faith in him. Biscan is the problem!

Those who think I'm talking cr#p ( and thats your perogative) get out the tapes and watch him, bloody £7 million disaster. Don't start me!
Sell the t#s#er bring Back bloody Glynn Hysen or Gary Abblet, just kidding

by **Wendi Richter** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:54 pm

big al wrote:Do you want to give me a bloody heart attack!

Bdb your right mate Biscan is sh1t I can see it you can see it and nearly everybody in football can see it even some of the prats on sky sports but why can't Houleir see it is he blind.

I have long thought that Houlier had lost it but only since he started to play Biscan in the team. Remember it all started last year near Christmas and we've been s##t ever since. Back then I was hoping Babble would recover quickly sadly no. Carragher then recovered the right back position, good I thought, Then Biscan started in Mid-field, bloody disaster, Then he ended up in centre halve, biggest bloody mistake ever made. What is the problem is Houleir F**king blind.

You know what, to Stu and all you other Houleir supporters, Biscan and Houleir's total misjudgement over him is what is really Why I think he's a s##t manager. I can see the problem, loads of fans can see it even idiots like Ron Attkinson can bloody see it and he's a ***** so why can Houleir not see it.

Biscan cost us the Chelsea game at Anfiled by doing a walkies on Veron, He followed that up by allowing Aresenal too much space for Peres wonder goal and perhaps even the Hypia deflection. He p#ssed about with Man U again to our detriment need I go on. Spurs just proved every thing I'ver been saying since the beginning of the season. Don't beleive me go back to all my early posts and they are all focused on Biscan. He is cr#p, He's brought an outsatnding defence to be cr#p. Hypia constantly either over compensates or more recently puts too much faith in him. Biscan is the problem!

Those who think I'm talking cr#p ( and thats your perogative) get out the tapes and watch him, bloody £7 million disaster. Don't start me!
Sell the t#s#er bring Back bloody Glynn Hysen or Gary Abblet, just kidding

Thats Gold!!!

by **truered** » Wed Jan 21, 2004 7:41 am

hey guys i think that Biscan might come out well though i think that Hypia isnt playing well.We have always had a probelm dealing with long balls Biscan has pace madf pace he needs to be more confident though and this takes time..Like the second goal by Postiga we can't entirly blame Biscan Hypia should have been covering.I also think that Cheyro is a a talent but he is been played out of postion ,He is one oy the liverpool players that can really pass the ball well he is very creative and the best place to play him is just behing the strikers he would be an instant sucess believe me.The reason why the team isnt playing well is all down to houiler"s poor tactics.

by **jonny.** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:56 am

catenacio wrote:For me, Igor would make an excellent deep, base of the diamond holding midfielder.

Here he would not be found out positionally, as it is more of a reactional than positonal role. He could use his excellent pace (quicker than didi but then so am i !! - no offense didi) and superb range of passing. This coupled with the defensive skills he has recently acquired and his willingness to show for the ball every time (please take note didi and stop hiding!!) to be the fulcrum of our team.

For those of you didi lovers -why not play them both centre mid (deep) and let kewell and gerrard play left and right respectively and bomb on!

Thats the best read I've had for ages

by **RUSHIE#9** » Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:03 am

Why has this been dragged up nearly 5 years after the last post and about a player that left the club over 3 years ago?

VERY STRANGE!! :cool:

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