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by **maximus** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:56 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:Maximus, he has lived the whole thing thru the media, talking first to them to win the support of fans.

If he had some long term plan, he would have laid it out to win the votes, but none has come across..

Leon,

I understand what you are saying, re: Morgan. the facts are that the media today more than ever are the mouthpiece for ordinary fans like you and I, love them or hate them they are a fundamental part of football in the world today, especially in the UK.

Morgan is a self made man, you know, working class kid done good. He has no doubt used the media to further his own business interests and will indeed use the media to attract the interest of the fans for his latest proposal, that is obvious indeed like the proposed Thai investment were doing, and the 'proposed' Mike Jeffries investment is currently doing, I for one am all for that, that is the only way for some fans to know what is happening behind the scenes for the ordinairy fan at their club.

He may not want to lay out all his cards on the table publicly possibly because these things always have a habit of biting you around the @rse area, as well as coming back to haunt you at a later date.

But make no mistake, I am sure that Steve Morgan has put together a long term plan, to convince the board of LFC and the people employed by our club to vet these type of proposals. Any business with a proposal for such a vast investment into their business, which encompasses a takeover bid would surely request that as a matter of course.

For my money, i am not sure at this stage what to think surrounding this whole issue of investment into LFC and takeover bids, However there are some interesting questions being posed
- Money into LFC needed? Most certainly.
- Will the traditions of the club could be compromised: ie. Moores family involvement in LFC for over 50 yrs for example? possibly.

However as in all areas of modern football, perhaps it is time to move with the times, before we are left so far behind, that the gulf in finance to 'catch' the bifg three - Chelsea, Manutd and Arsenal, not forgetting the fringe 'financial powerhouses' of the premier league, teams like Newcastle e.t.c. is not too big.

Do I want Steve Morgan to invest and take over LFC? If it is a case LFC and the Moores family are looking for investment (which it is looking very likely iminently), then I do think Steve Morgan is the best bet, for three reasons

1 - He has put his money where his mouth is, on numerous occasions, and presented the board with solid proposals
2 - He is a Liverpool fan
3 - At the moment he is the lesser of all 'evils' IMO

Rest assured though folks, I feel there are certainly interesting times ahead.

by **Stan Laurel** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 1:59 pm

Leonmc0708 wrote:Morgan is a media whore who will have us mid table with Curbishly or O,Neill running the team onto oblivion.

This can not be allowed to happen.Long term is what matters. Not quick millions in front of your eyes to buy some new players, which is what I've seen on the forum.

All they see is £50m here and £50 there and they think we'll be in to buy Ronaldinho and fu@k knows who else they've seen on CM.

Morgan to me is just flashing the cash. It's like me winning £2m on the lottery tomorrow and buying up Wrexham. Okay, I've saved the ground and the club, but I'll have nothing left to invest in the club long term. Morgan hasn't got a long term plan.

In Moores and Parry we trust. We have done for years and we will continue to do so.

I agree with Leon's comment, just listen to Leon's comment. He is right about it.

I don't want Morgan to take over from the Moores, it will be huge mistake to have Morgan and he is too arrogant and will 'pressure' on Rafa, he could force to quit Liverpool, if Morgan to do that on Rafa.

That's why I don't want Morgan to take over.

Stick with Parry and Moores that we must continue to trust them not bloody Morgan.

by **maximus** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:05 pm

Stan Laurel wrote:
Leonmc0708 wrote:Morgan is a media whore who will have us mid table with Curbishly or O,Neill running the team onto oblivion.

This can not be allowed to happen.Long term is what matters. Not quick millions in front of your eyes to buy some new players, which is what I've seen on the forum.

All they see is £50m here and £50 there and they think we'll be in to buy Ronaldinho and fu@k knows who else they've seen on CM.

Morgan to me is just flashing the cash. It's like me winning £2m on the lottery tomorrow and buying up Wrexham. Okay, I've saved the ground and the club, but I'll have nothing left to invest in the club long term. Morgan hasn't got a long term plan.

In Moores and Parry we trust. We have done for years and we will continue to do so.

I agree with Leon's comment, just listen to Leon's comment. He is right about it.

I don't want Morgan to take over from the Moores, it will be huge mistake to have Morgan and he is too arrogant and will 'pressure' on Rafa, he could force to quit Liverpool, if Morgan to do that on Rafa.

That's why I don't want Morgan to take over.

Stick with Parry and Moores that we must continue to trust them not bloody Morgan.

I agree Stan, if it is possible to stick with Moores and Parry, then i would always take that option first and foremost.

However, Moores is indicating very styrongly that he is considering his future at the club, if that is the case, then you can bet that Mr parry will not be far behind in the clearout, that will inevitably follow.

by **lakes10** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:14 pm

I think it is time for Moores step aside at let someone new in with fresh ideas and fresh money.
I dont like the idea of yanks taking over the club as this will end in tears. the yanks dont see it as a long term thing , they see it as stick loads of cash into a club wind a few things the send them to the states in the summer to do all the press stuff and play poor games , they plan to set up a team " liverpool U.S" or somthing like that (it was on sky sports but did not hear it right) liverpool U.S will our seconed team that plays in the states but will use some of our players from time to time when they are not playing in our first team. for me this sucks .

by **parchpea** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:30 pm

The fact is that Moores and Parry have big ideas and long term plans but just dont have the money to make it happen. This means they either look for investment, which they are clearly doing, or come up with cheaper ideas. They have given it their best shot but bad appointments and sanctioning transfers for poor players has finally taken its toll. They are spent up. If they want a brand new Anfield and also good players on the park the bottom line is they are going to have to swallow their pride and take a handout. If they are unwilling to grit their teeth and take the money then we stay put or go for groundshare. Maybe they are hoping they get some kind of free windfall with no strings and no risk, afterall its almost Christmas. Its decision time.

by **bigmick** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:44 pm

I'm gonna keep it short. It doesn't matter how deep anyones pockets are, we aint gonna compete financially with Chelsea or Man U. That is a fact. If Morgan is actually worth 350 million, he could tip the lot in and unless the management is right it will probably go pearshaped.
I'm not against anyone investing but I like David Moores. Don't ever listen when people say so and so was born into something with a sneer on their face. None of us can control where we come from. I'm from a ****** council estate in Scarborough, not my fault but there you go. Not his fault he was born into his family dynasty either but it's what you do when put on this world that matters. I reckon he loves the club at least as much as anyone on this forum. He is a good man. Every club needs good men. Why not Morgan put up some cash and let Moores remain at the helm? Why not? Its egos. Not about Liverpool Football Club at all really.

by **JBG** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:09 pm

Does anyone remember when Sporty Spice wanted to give us the money to buy Georgi Kinkladze? Now there was an investment opportunity!

by **maximus** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:13 pm

John Barnes' Granny wrote:Does anyone remember when Sporty Spice wanted to give us the money to buy Georgi Kinkladze? Now there was an investment opportunity!

Trust you to degenerate the whole debate to an all time low level

by **parchpea** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:18 pm

I have no doubt in my mind that Moores loves the club and by all accounts hes a good man, but by his own admission its not enough. We need the money to carry out the plans and push the club forward. If its about love of club then anyone from this forum could be chairman, but if you do not have the cash then you cant take the job. I doubt that anyone would give that amount of money to the club without some input on how its spent. Especially the way cash has been frittered away by the current regime.

by **JBG** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:20 pm

maximus wrote:
John Barnes' Granny wrote:Does anyone remember when Sporty Spice wanted to give us the money to buy Georgi Kinkladze? Now there was an investment opportunity!

Trust you to degenerate the whole debate to an all time low level

No, I think the "the money will come from the World Bank" post beat me to it.

by **maximus** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:24 pm

John Barnes' Granny wrote:
maximus wrote:
John Barnes' Granny wrote:Does anyone remember when Sporty Spice wanted to give us the money to buy Georgi Kinkladze? Now there was an investment opportunity!

Trust you to degenerate the whole debate to an all time low level

No, I think the "the money will come from the World Bank" post beat me to it.

True

by **Roger Red Hat** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:33 pm

Out of the 40,000 + people that turn up to Anfield every other week, and the millions of supporters we have in this country, you'd think we'd be able to gather up enough tradesmen to build the f :oh:

king stadium ourselves. You know, all chip in and do a bit, reduce costs and all that.

Morgan is our man. Lets welcome him.

LIVERPOOL Football Club today insisted it would not be hurried over a major new investment approach worth millions of pounds.

The approach from a mystery source was revealed last night at the club's highly-charged AGM.

Reds multi- millionaire shareholder Steve Morgan today urged Liverpool to seal the deal with the mystery new bidder - if it's in the best interests of the club.

After almost a year of turmoil and speculation over Liverpool's ownership and finances he said: "For the proud name of Liverpool Football Club this has to come to an end."

This is a man who loves this club.

by **adayinthelife** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:53 pm

Lee J wrote:Out of the 40,000 + people that turn up to Anfield every other week, and the millions of supporters we have in this country, you'd think we'd be able to gather up enough tradesmen to build the f king stadium ourselves. You know, all chip in and do a bit, reduce costs and all that.

Morgan is our man. Lets welcome him.

LIVERPOOL Football Club today insisted it would not be hurried over a major new investment approach worth millions of pounds.

The approach from a mystery source was revealed last night at the club's highly-charged AGM.

Reds multi- millionaire shareholder Steve Morgan today urged Liverpool to seal the deal with the mystery new bidder - if it's in the best interests of the club.

After almost a year of turmoil and speculation over Liverpool's ownership and finances he said: "For the proud name of Liverpool Football Club this has to come to an end."

This is a man who loves this club.

He is also a man that has not got enough cash to invest in our own stadium and we will end up sharing a stadium with the bluenoses. :angry:

by **Roger Red Hat** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 3:57 pm

ground share my ar$e. It'll never happen.

by **adayinthelife** » Fri Dec 03, 2004 4:09 pm

Lee J wrote:ground share my ar$e. It'll never happen.

Morgan cannot afford to put up enough for our own new stadium so with him in charge it will be a groundshare.

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