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by **marcus.c** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:58 pm

Liverpool were heavily tipped to lose. But Rafael Benitez's men pulled a rabbit out of the hat with that last touch goal. What did the new manager do right?

Benitez's biggest contribution is that he made the Reds believe in themselves once again. Although results may not have been wholly satisfactory, at least Liverpool have gotten rid of their defensive shell acquired under Gerard Houllier's reign. Liverpool are now playing more attacking football. This is rather visible as everytime Kirkland got the ball, he would immediately pump the ball up with good tactical sense. Once players got the ball, they know what to do with it, except for Kewell.

Tactically, Benitez really showed how flexible and innovative he can be by playing a 4-5-1 system, which is unusual for the Reds. Sinama Pungolle do the donkey work on the right flank while Gerrard took up a roving role behind lone striker Mellor. Alonso's opening goal definitely had a training ground routine look about it. And that really goes to show that Benitez is serious plotting his Anfield revolution.

Most of the day, it is the Liverpool's fighting spirit which is so evidence in the Kenny Dalglish, Kevin Keegan era. Under the old regime, Liverpool would have rolled over and made excuses about their injury list. Instead they dug in and slowly but surely, Benitez is getting his formula right. THE REDS REVIVAL HAS BEGAN !

by **Paul C** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:02 pm

FFS, we win against Arsenal and everyone is going wild, yeah it was a great win but at the end of the day it doesn't count for sh1t3 if we lose against Villa, Everton, etc.

If we lose the next game people will soon change their tune and start complaining again :angry:

by **1234ram** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:06 pm

well said

by **The Canadian Red Army** » Tue Nov 30, 2004 2:26 pm

but if we get a result we will all be cheering louder
but doenst it look through all of the injures, that we have found something with the guys we still have and the tatics of rafa. That we can repeat our win against arsenal against villa

by **chiggz_likes_owen** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:19 am

yea that is the sad thing about it, we beat arsenal its a big thing but at the end of the day its only 3 points.

No one went wild when we beat norwich.

At the end of the day its only 3 points.

by **A.B.** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 3:06 am

yea that is the sad thing about it, we beat arsenal its a big thing but at the end of the day its only 3 points.

No one went wild when we beat norwich.

At the end of the day its only 3 points.

Taking three points from Arsenal is not the same as taking three points away from Norwich. Why?

Simple because beating an opponent such as Arsenal gives the team confidence for future fixtures. If we can beat an opponent such as Arsenal without Garcia,Baros,Cisse,etc.. then we should be able to beat opponents such as Villa,Everton,etc..

by **Starbridge42** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:15 am

Yes we played extremely well against arsenal, perhaps inspired by our opposition but if we dont reproduce the same sort of performance every match then theres no point in having it against big teams and fvking up against the minnows

by **the-stinger** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 10:50 am

marcus.c wrote:Once players got the ball, they know what to do with it, except for Kewell.

Come on mate, enough already!

Let's be better than the rest of those bulls**t teams and back our players, even when they are going through their slumps.

WAKE UP MATE!!!

Enough's enough! Bout time we stick together, our bloody team is! We should back em.

Kewell has been playing alright as of late, not great, but alright.

Stop the ****** people, support your team! cept Diouf, he should be gone quick smart!

by **marcus.c** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:34 am

Let's be better than the rest of those bulls**t teams and back our players, even when they are going through their slumps.

WAKE UP MATE!!!

Enough's enough! Bout time we stick together, our bloody team is! We should back em.

Kewell has been playing alright as of late, not great, but alright.[/quote]

Kewell is playing "alright"?

Not too long ago, he was the best left-sided midfielder in the Premiership, but those days are gone and he is no longer so self-assured.

Winning is about total devotion. Kewell is not showing that at the moment. He is being paid million of dollars but what has he contributed? Since his transfer from Leeds, Kewell has contributed nothing. Perhaps the only thing he has contributed it is his inconsistency.

Successful football clubs is about doing sensible business. it is not a charity orgnisation. How long do we need to wait for Kewell to regain his form? Next season? Or perhaps when United, Chelsea and Arsenal all take turns to be the champions?

I suggest that once the transfer window is open, Benitez got to get quality and consistent mid-fielders, playing on the left and right flank. Get Kewell, Traore and Smicer out. Traore keeps making silly mistakes during big games. Smicer is a quality player but unfortunately, his days are numbered, sell him now when he still has value.

For now, Benitez should work on the win against the Gunners and focus on winning every single match.

by **Paul C** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:40 am

I back the reds 100% and don't give someone a hardtime if they have a dip in form, the only player I do kick off about is Kewell cos in 18 months at the club he has never put in an outstanding performance only bad or average ones

by **the-stinger** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 11:58 am

I cant believe im hearing this, this is nonsense, he IS a quality player, and he will get out of this slump.

Dont be too daft, we are Liverpool supporters not flimsy fickle Man Utd supporters!!

by **LFC #1** » Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:01 pm

marcus.c wrote:I suggest that once the transfer window is open, Benitez got to get quality and consistent mid-fielders, playing on the left and right flank. Get Kewell, Traore and Smicer out. Traore keeps making silly mistakes during big games. Smicer is a quality player but unfortunately, his days are numbered, sell him now when he still has value.

so you are going to fund all that are you?

let's face it we need a striker first and foremost and that won't leave much money to get these quality players on the flanks that you speak of, be realistic mate.

by **marcus.c** » Sat Dec 11, 2004 5:49 am

LFC #1 wrote:let's face it we need a striker first and foremost and that won't leave much money to get these quality players on the flanks that you speak of, be realistic mate.

We do have strikers and right now, they are finding their scoring touch. Sinama Pongolle and Mellor have been pretty pretty well. If Liverpool were to buy a high end striker, who is it going to be and how much is it going to cost? It is also not certain whether the new striker can deliver. If we are going to spend $20 - $25 million on a striker of Morintes standard, then I felt that the money would be better spend on bringing in 2 or maybe 3 midfielders to replace those aging ones.

Beside we still got Cisse and Baros, is Morintes going to seat out on the bench if Cisse and Baros are on-form and vice-versa.

For now, I do not think any top notch striker is coming to Anfield, maybe a second rate striker that cost below $10 million.

by **mistyred** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:03 pm

Would it be so bad to try and work with what we have? now now everyone before you skin me alive i'm just thinking that it's the bosses first season and he has players coming back and let's face it all the top talent are most likely still to be at thier clubs during the jan sales.

We all know Some areas need strenthening but i think bying players just to make up ridiculous numerical advantages can be suicide, I think this is the way GH went.

His intentions and motives seemed to be above board but he folded to peer presure and didn't find players that suited us best,Saying that some of his signings are still giving it a go.

I don't want Rafa to end up bieng hated and talked about like a fruit cake,So if the right player for the next 2 or 3 yrs is available in Jan sign them But a short fix of the wrong sort could come back to haunt everyone involved,and i'm sure we don't want that sort of history repeating itself.

by **Ola Mr Benitez** » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:17 pm

I think Harry has been improving with every game. (over the last 6 - 7). We should be getting behind him, making him feel confident. How would you like it if when you where trying your best in work every little mistake was scrutiniesed and then the generl feeling thrown towards you was "your ******". The guy is class. Also someone said we needed a couple of midfielders.. Am I watching a different LFC than you. Midfield has to be where we are at our strongest... Gerrard, Alonso, Hamman, Garcia, Kewell.. also coming through Warnock, Nunez (? possibly), Finnan.

I would say another forward and a cover player for CB.. even though I think Zak will be the man there in 18 months to 2 yrs

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