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Penguins » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am wrote:Sigh, Almost EVERYONE would agree that not spending any money last season was the biggest reason for our collapse.
Just pathetic as always trying to defend FSG....

I don’t normally respond to your bile because you are so incredibly negative and amazingly boring. However, I do have a question: Obviously you didn’t bother reading my post so please explain why Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal with the amount of money that they have spent over a sustained period haven’t won everything ?? Only City through massive spending have achieved quite incredible results. But let’s face it and it’s saddens me to admit that City’s success hasn’t simply come from spending money. Forget the abuse of the rules they are very well managed organisation and that is one of the key reasons for their success. United have picked up a couple of domestic trophies in the last 10 years and spent more than City in the transfer market !!

Penguins » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am wrote:Sigh, Almost EVERYONE would agree that not spending any money last season was the biggest reason for our collapse.
Just pathetic as always trying to defend FSG....

Did they not buy 4 midfielders last year at a cost of 172m? How is 172m not spending money. 

It’s not about defending FSG, it’s about defending the facts. My loyalty to them lasts as long as they do a good job which they have been. I think your opinion about the owners is too rigid, if we start winning you won’t have anything to complain about the owners and you’ll stop posting. Sometimes they do good and sometimes they make mistakes, overall I think they are doing a great job in this current climate of cash teams. They have improved the club to no end and I think bringing Slot could be another great bit of business. We are a well run club and I’m ok with that, you want to think differently and I’m ok with that too. 

Penguins » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am wrote:Sigh, Almost EVERYONE would agree that not spending any money last season was the biggest reason for our collapse.
Just pathetic as always trying to defend FSG....

Did we not spend money bringing in

McAllister
Endo
Gravenburch
Dom Szoboszlai

In what way is that “not spending money”

Allegedly a "momentous decision" reached with Saudi Arabia related to the Liverpool academy.
I get this forum isn't for politics. But. I don't like it. Selling out to oil money and a sick regime.
Not a fan of this.

bunglemark2 » Tue Sep 17, 2024 11:04 am wrote:Allegedly a "momentous decision" reached with Saudi Arabia related to the Liverpool academy.
I get this forum isn't for politics. But. I don't like it. Selling out to oil money and a sick regime.
Not a fan of this.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/liverp ... 23033.html

Nothing to do with us

Lallana in Pyjamas » Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:08 pm wrote:

Penguins » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am wrote:Sigh, Almost EVERYONE would agree that not spending any money last season was the biggest reason for our collapse.
Just pathetic as always trying to defend FSG....

Did we not spend money bringing in

McAllister
Endo
Gravenburch
Dom Szoboszlai

In what way is that “not spending money”

And then what did they do for the next 2 windows? Sweet F all!
Why not bring up that they did spend money in 2018 too. That's only 6 years ago.
The fact is that the club has made a profit on sales over the past 2 windows and that's a disgrace.
For the past 10 years City, Manure, Chelski, Newcastle, Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham and Villa have spent more and they're closer to C. Palace than Spurs.
But let's celebrate when they spend and ignore all the windows they do nothing....

Penguins » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:11 pm wrote:

Lallana in Pyjamas » Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:08 pm wrote:

Penguins » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am wrote:Sigh, Almost EVERYONE would agree that not spending any money last season was the biggest reason for our collapse.
Just pathetic as always trying to defend FSG....

Did we not spend money bringing in

McAllister
Endo
Gravenburch
Dom Szoboszlai

In what way is that “not spending money”

And then what did they do for the next 2 windows? Sweet F all!
Why not bring up that they did spend money in 2018 too. That's only 6 years ago.
The fact is that the club has made a profit on sales over the past 2 windows and that's a disgrace.
For the past 10 years City, Manure, Chelski, Newcastle, Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham and Villa have spent more and they're closer to C. Palace than Spurs.
But let's celebrate when they spend and ignore all the windows they do nothing....

Here’s a good place to get your facts straight.

https://www.transfermarkt.com/fc-liverpool/alletransfers/verein/31

So as it happens this year the club’s net spend made a profit of 5m
Last season spent 112m
Season before that spent 65m
Before that 60m

And hasn’t made a profit since the 19/20 season and the season before that they spent 140m.

That is net spend not including loans. So your notion that the club makes a profit is plain wrong. What the club is not doing  however is spending 200m every year because I think that is what you mean.

We certainly underspend for a club of our size and stature, especially given our owners are sitting on 3 billion quid in equity.

You can say whatever you want but when West Ham and Villa are outspendning you over a 10 year period, it's a DISGRACE!
A club of this stature which has earned WAY more money and has way higher status should not ever be in that position....

Penguins » Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:36 pm wrote:You can say whatever you want but when West Ham and Villa are outspendning you over a 10 year period, it's a DISGRACE!
A club of this stature which has earned WAY more money and has way higher status should not ever be in that position....

Not what you said, you said that the owners are making a profit from player sales

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:28 am wrote:We certainly underspend for a club of our size and stature, especially given our owners are sitting on 3 billion quid in equity.

I’m not sure taking out equity for player sales is not the best business decision to make. With FFP clubs are allowed to show losses of 105 million over three seasons and many clubs are right on the threshold, that tells you that most clubs are operating on losses. Not defending the owners, just illustrating the facts on the ground.

Penguins » Fri Sep 20, 2024 3:36 pm wrote:You can say whatever you want but when West Ham and Villa are outspendning you over a 10 year period, it's a DISGRACE!
A club of this stature which has earned WAY more money and has way higher status should not ever be in that position....

Is the competition “ which team spends the most”

The club have spent £1.3bn since fsg arrived

We have spent more than both Villa and West Ham in the last ten years

Penguins » Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:11 pm wrote:

Lallana in Pyjamas » Wed Sep 04, 2024 2:08 pm wrote:

Penguins » Tue Sep 03, 2024 9:26 am wrote:Sigh, Almost EVERYONE would agree that not spending any money last season was the biggest reason for our collapse.
Just pathetic as always trying to defend FSG....

Did we not spend money bringing in

McAllister
Endo
Gravenburch
Dom Szoboszlai

In what way is that “not spending money”

And then what did they do for the next 2 windows? Sweet F all!
Why not bring up that they did spend money in 2018 too. That's only 6 years ago.
The fact is that the club has made a profit on sales over the past 2 windows and that's a disgrace.
For the past 10 years City, Manure, Chelski, Newcastle, Spurs, Arsenal, West Ham and Villa have spent more and they're closer to C. Palace than Spurs.
But let's celebrate when they spend and ignore all the windows they do nothing....

Did we not spend money in the last window ?

Does a club have spend money in every window

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:28 am wrote:We certainly underspend for a club of our size and stature, especially given our owners are sitting on 3 billion quid in equity.

What is the figure the club should be spending ? And do you only look at spending when it comes to a transfer fee ?

Yakka - The evidence during the last decade, other than City, certainly wouldn’t suggest that spending shed loads of money is the answer. United and Chelsea have had very limited success considering what they have spent.