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red till i die!! » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:55 pm wrote:VAR is still a joke in every sense.

After the game potter said its probably the easiest pen they will ever get but sometimes you get them and sometimes you don't but they even themselves out    This is the very reason they brought the damn thing in in the first place so teams wouldnt be getting penalties for nothing and yet it has managed to get it wrong more times in a year than referees do in ten. It's an utter joke.

Love Klopp but hes coming across as a whinge. The fooking matches are sorted before the season starts so no point in moaning about them now.  He should have been more angry about VAR rather than us having to play on a wednesday and Saturday morning which we have done plenty of times before.

The guy is an incredible manager and a living legend but he’s had a bit of a bee in his bonnet about this type of stuff from the moment he walked through the door here. It used to be the lack of a winter break which wound him up but now this 5 subs thing has got under his skin. I actually agree with Jamie Carragher who thinks allowing 5 subs on a permanent basis would disrupt the flow of the game too much (which has already taken a hammering with VAR).
Lets face it those subs are going to happen in the second half and if both managers use their full allocation that’s 10 substitutions in one half! That’s a sub every 4.5 mins on average. Plus in time managers will learn to use them tactically as a tool to kill a game they are winning. If one of the lesser lights scores a goal in the 80th minute against one of the big teams and the manager still has all his subs in hand the last 10 minutes will end up a farce.
Attrition has always been a part of the game here, years ago there were 42 games in a season, no mini winter break, no break for international games (international’s were played midweek and players had to be back at their clubs on the Saturday) and over the Christmas teams used to play back to back games, for instance Liverpool would play Chelsea on the 26th in London and play them again at Anfield on the 27th. The only thing which stopped footy years ago was frozen pitches, it literally was 9 months solid of wall to wall footy, that’s why Bill Shankly famously called it a marathon not a sprint.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 pm wrote:

red till i die!! » Sat Nov 28, 2020 8:55 pm wrote:VAR is still a joke in every sense.

After the game potter said its probably the easiest pen they will ever get but sometimes you get them and sometimes you don't but they even themselves out    This is the very reason they brought the damn thing in in the first place so teams wouldnt be getting penalties for nothing and yet it has managed to get it wrong more times in a year than referees do in ten. It's an utter joke.

Love Klopp but hes coming across as a whinge. The fooking matches are sorted before the season starts so no point in moaning about them now.  He should have been more angry about VAR rather than us having to play on a wednesday and Saturday morning which we have done plenty of times before.

The guy is an incredible manager and a living legend but he’s had a bit of a bee in his bonnet about this type of stuff from the moment he walked through the door here. It used to be the lack of a winter break which wound him up but now this 5 subs thing has got under his skin. I actually agree with Jamie Carragher who thinks allowing 5 subs on a permanent basis would disrupt the flow of the game too much (which has already taken a hammering with VAR).
Lets face it those subs are going to happen in the second half and if both managers use their full allocation that’s 10 substitutions in one half! That’s a sub every 4.5 mins on average. Plus in time managers will learn to use them tactically as a tool to kill a game they are winning. If one of the lesser lights scores a goal in the 80th minute against one of the big teams and the manager still has all his subs in hand the last 10 minutes will end up a farce.
Attrition has always been a part of the game here, years ago there were 42 games in a season, no mini winter break, no break for international games (international’s were played midweek and players had to be back at their clubs on the Saturday) and over the Christmas teams used to play back to back games, for instance Liverpool would play Chelsea on the 26th in London and play them again at Anfield on the 27th. The only thing which stopped footy years ago was frozen pitches, it literally was 9 months solid of wall to wall footy, that’s why Bill Shankly famously called it a marathon not a sprint.

And rightly so, we are losing a player to a muscle injury every single game. Players are being brought back to early, playing half-injured or being asked to play 3 games in 6 days at 34 years old, and then guess what, they get a muscle injury. It's a total joke. Rafa used to get hit with the same criticism, too much rotation, just play the strongest 11 etc. etc. etc. He used to try and explain that he was playing his strongest 11 for that day (given form, fitness, freshness etc.) to maximise the chance of winning the game but people just didn't get it. There is absolutely no choice but to rotate with the game frequency this season, we're barely getting by as it is. The players are getting no breaks at all. He feels strongly about it because even our young players are getting muscle injuries, as these accumulate they can be career threatening and recurrent - just look at Michael Owen or Daniel Sturridge. He cares about them and for him to see fellow managers not letting this pass pisses him off - and he's right. This is not a normal season and the rules should recognize this. Harking back to yesteryear is pointless, the players are tuned to within an inch of injury now, that was never the case before.

It was a draw and dropping another two points for the second week!

Minamino best ever game in a withdraw roll, Jota, Mane, Phillip, Robo, and the rest were the better players.

We are facing a very tough fixture of games for the month of December, therefore, Klopp has to dig deep to overcome the bad ongoing problem, he ought to use Grujic if he still in the squad. Worrying times ahead, and we can't let the spud get ahead of steam!

Good Luck Lads

Speaking of Grujic, who's on loan at Porto, can we somehow recall him now? We could really use him with all the injuries in the squad, and who knows, it might end up being the break he's been waiting for.