devaney wrote:As much as I hate the thought of simply going out and buying success it has been categorically proven that it is the only way forward unless you are simply satisfied to be an also ran. During the the last 4 transfer windows over the last 2 seasons City spent £280m net - United spent £240m net - Everton ffs spent £85m net AND JUST EXACTLY WHAT DID WE SPEND? YES A PALTRY £33M !! Quite frankly this is nothing short of pathetic and clearly demonstrates why we are currently in the mess that we are. Suggesting that things aren't that bad and that we are only a few points off 4th place is absolute bollux. Just look at how many points we are behind City and just look at their goal difference compared to ours !! We have had a very average midfield and a pathetic defence since Klopp arrived. He is paid £7.5m a year to sort out this nonsense and so far he has failed. Salah and Mané have been decent additions. As for the rest they are either poor or average at best.
Jaysus Dev where have you been ? Are you not aware that we broke our transfer record twice this summer and came very close to blowing that out of the water with a bumper fictitious bid for VVD

All that in one summer and you have the audacity to complain

Shame on you you bad bad fan
Seriously though this is the same shyte that has gone on longer than Klopp's tenure. There is little or no change since Rodgers in terms of personnel tactics or results and the reason for it is persisting with the same players that got him the boot. Mingolet, Lovren, Moreno, Henderson should never have been brought here in the first place. There is a host of others like Can, Sturridge, Lallana, Origi who aren't living up to it either.
Klopp is getting paid handsomely but imo is here to steer the club in the direction he is told. He has to see the problems that exist but hasn't got the power to fix it. We have come full circle again with these owners as in that we achieved 4th and got CL but still went into the season with major weaknesses and doubts just like they did when Rodgers qualified. This is the 2nd time they have done this so you have to ask why we are not looking to capitalise on previous finishes and its clear that they don't want to.
This is from Peter Moore when he was 1st appointed back in June and in one of his maiden interviews is already dumbing the club down with FSG spiel. This is what he had to say.
“What we have to do is provide the team down there on that pitch when it’s finished with every resource they need to be successful, that is the challenge of modern football.” Moore continues. “We see clubs that just can’t keep up with it. It’s always sad for me to see clubs that I grew up with as a boy that were powerhouses and have fallen off the pace. I’ve seen this in the world of Silicon Valley, once you drop off the pace catching back up again and being relevant, attracting talent, it becomes very, very difficult.”
We are well off the pace for a long time now and still cannot attract talent.
“Look, I have been involved in a company that on public record has acquired other companies for $1b and it hasn’t quite worked out,” he explains. “I have lived through what is known as M and A activity – Mergers and Acquisitions – and what I have learned over the years is that it is not how much you pay but what you get. And so you have a kid called Philippe Coutinho playing out there who cost £8m and then you have other guys who cost four or five times that around the league.”
But yet signing Ox made perfect sense in that he cannot even get a start. Your right it is all about what you get for your money and that's the problem. We just spent a ridiculous sum on fooking nothing.
“Maybe I’m naive but I’m not looking at my competitors' spending and deciding that I need to spend the same regardless of the quality of the players. That makes no business sense to me,” he adds. “I trust Michael Edwards implicitly to do a value proposition of a particular player and say, based on the data analytics we have on them and the comparables we have on other players, that this is what we go for."
Here we go. Michael Edwards looks at the players, Puts a value on them based on their stats and then compares them to similar stats collected on other players.

This is the same shyte we have always been at and it continues.
“I’m yet to see the process of how it works," Moores admits. "But I hear nothing but good things the way we do it and in particular about Michael - and his process of this. The theory that because Man City spends £100m we need to spend £100m? Listen, we may spend £100m. Who knows? But it won’t be because they spend £100m. If your next-door neighbour puts £50,000 into his greenhouse and for you to keep up with comparable rates on your street, will you spend fifty-thousand quid on a greenhouse? No! You do what makes good sense for your house. I can’t think of a better analogy than the greenhouse!”
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot ... 66336.htmlDespite not seeing how the process even works he is fully behind it because he hears nothing but good things on the way we do it.

Nothing has changed here and this guy wont do it either because whoever employed him is perfectly happy at our recruitment system and it doesn't look like it will change so our fortunes won't either. Because of all this Klopp is on a hiding to nothing and its only a matter of time before he walks on us. A 5th or 6th place this season should do it with him citing he is unable to take us any further and then we will be right back in the shyte of it again.