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I'm really failing to see how the club can recover from selling Suarez.

One of the main reasons for any top players to join us has gone, and its a massive worry. A lot of players will look at us as a squad and think (quite rightly) that if you take him out of this team, we're not much better than a mid table side and last season looks like it could well be a flash in the pan.

He made the difference last season without any question and I think anyone who disputes the importance of his role is quite simply from out of space.

The point is though, he's gone, so how do we recover?

We've so far signed Lambert and Lallana for a combined fee of £29,000,000 which quite frankly is ridiculous money. Also £10,000,000 spent on Emre Can is a huge amount, and all for players that aren't really good enough to get into the first team... When you condsider players like Fabregas and Sanchez (the type of players we should be in for) are moving for around the £30,000,000 mark that kind of says all you need to know about our transfer policy.

I really do worry we're going to do with the £75,000,000 exactly what Spurs done with £85,000,000 they got for Bale. Spunk it up the wall on yet more ***** and as yakka put in another thread (overrated bench fodder). Since Rodgers has come in the only players that have been positive signings are Coutinho and Sturridge, Sahko and Allen have proved to be average but we've over payed and the rest have been abysmal flops.

Anyone who thinks this is a good thing or good business I fear may well be in for a very very nasty wake up call.

No offence intended Stu, but why make a new thread for the same discussion you already created in your Transfer policy still a shambles! thread ?

You always recover, players come and go and retire, you don't get too many one club players these days. Surprisingly enough we managed without him at the beginning of last season and if he had stayed we would have had to manage without him for the first couple of months next season, he's gone get over it.

cardiff-red » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:15 am wrote:No offence intended Stu, but why make a new thread for the same discussion you already created in your Transfer policy still a shambles! thread ?

The intent wasn't to discuss the same thing CR, I have made similar points, but I just don't see a way back for LFC from losing a player of this class without any form of replacement. He's 40% of our team for me.

Stu the Red » Sat Jul 12, 2014 10:03 am wrote:I'm really failing to see how the club can recover from selling Suarez.

One of the main reasons for any top players to join us has gone, and its a massive worry. A lot of players will look at us as a squad and think (quite rightly) that if you take him out of this team, we're not much better than a mid table side and last season looks like it could well be a flash in the pan.

He made the difference last season without any question and I think anyone who disputes the importance of his role is quite simply from out of space.

The point is though, he's gone, so how do we recover?

We've so far signed Lambert and Lallana for a combined fee of £29,000,000 which quite frankly is ridiculous money. Also £10,000,000 spent on Emre Can is a huge amount, and all for players that aren't really good enough to get into the first team... When you condsider players like Fabregas and Sanchez (the type of players we should be in for) are moving for around the £30,000,000 mark that kind of says all you need to know about our transfer policy.

I really do worry we're going to do with the £75,000,000 exactly what Spurs done with £85,000,000 they got for Bale. Spunk it up the wall on yet more ***** and as yakka put in another thread (overrated bench fodder). Since Rodgers has come in the only players that have been positive signings are Coutinho and Sturridge, Sahko and Allen have proved to be average but we've over payed and the rest have been abysmal flops.

Anyone who thinks this is a good thing or good business I fear may well be in for a very very nasty wake up call.

We will probably never recover....It's pretty much the end of LFC.

On a more serious note ,it's up to BR and his administrative team to make the right decision with the huge sum they were handed. I think Lallana is a great signing and more should follow ,We WANTED Sanchez but he didn't so not much we can do about it and as to Cesc not a huge loss always seemed like a feeble unstable player (to be kicked from Barca after season although Likes of Xabi leaving and Iniesta getting older kinda says something).
We Would probably land 2 big names in my opinion ,would rather see them on Defense though.

Why is Suarez leaving yesterday coming as such a shock to people?

It's been on the cards ever since he bit Chiellini.

We need to deal with it and move on. Crying about it won't help.  I'm pretty sure the club will be going strong long after Luis Suarez has hung up his boots.

JC_81 » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:31 am wrote:Why is Suarez leaving yesterday coming as such a shock to people?

It's been on the cards ever since he bit Chiellini.

We need to deal with it and move on. Crying about it won't help.  I'm pretty sure the club will be going strong long after Luis Suarez has hung up his boots.

It's been on the cards since he first arrived here, he's always had one eye on the exit door.

Oh no!

We won three out of the first five games last season without Suarez. We sold Torres but still managed to attract other good players. Suarez would have left eventually and probably before the end of his contract. As it was anyway he would have been missing for the first nine games. How would we have improved things without that money for Suarez and no Suarez until the end of October? We also need to look at the defence again so that we can close out games more easily. It's not all about scoring goals.

We will be fine. Yes we have lost a world class player but we will be OK. Utd lost Ronaldo and were OK and even Spurs last season didn't finish too far off there previous season points tally when they had Bale. If we can just strengthen a few area's of the team and bring in a couple up and coming star's (i.e Markovic), we will be ok and I'm backing Rodgers to carry on building on from last season. Top four will be a dog fight next season but we will be right up there in the mix IMO

Another bollox thread about a load of dramatic bollox that quite frankly is bollox, created by the biggest drama queen the world of forums have ever known.

Bollox

From a practical perspective it makes sense selling Suarez now, he's our best player and the best I've seen in the shirt by a distance but if he wanted to go then we let him. We're Liverpool FC for Christ sake and I can't believe someone would think its the end of us just because Luis has decided to leave

Don't get me wrong, it doesn't send out the best signal to prospective transfers when we've just sold our best player but I've complete faith in Brendan and the club to build a team that can compete and he's certainly earned the stripes for such faith going into next season. Can we replace Suarez? Not directly for me, and I don't mean that for just Liverpool FC, no matter where he goes there's nobody with the attributes he has to fill the void he'd leave behind. Suarez is where he wants to be and I don't think we as a club could stand in the way of that, with the bans and controversies he carries, we'd have to adapt to being without him anyway.

The defence still needs addressed, I think we'll go back in for Moreno, we obviously need a striker now - I'm sure I read we were linked with Benzema and Bony's name has been banded about, I'd be tempted by Lukaku as well. Markovic is due to come in as well I believe, I think we're gonna need one 'marquee' signing to appease the defeatists tho.

I'm gutted he's gone too, he was phenomenal to watch, but he's gone and we have no option but to swallow it.
He cannot be replaced by anyone available to us, in my opinion, but if the management spend the money wisely and strengthen the team, we'll be fine.
In actual fact, until November, we will actually be better off than we would've been if he'd stayed, since he will be on a ban til then, and will then take a while to get back up to speed with the team once he's allowed to train with them and play again.
So, the team have until November to work on their system, adjust it to incorporate the new signings and to compensate for the absence of Suarez. They would've had to do that anyway.
Fingers crossed that they don't f*ck this transfer window up. All our competitors seem to be signing big name players and we seemed to have got fixated on Sanchez and now we're falling back on Bony as a plan B, FFS.
But if we don't waste the money, we should be ok.
Last season was a flash in the pan, in my opinion. We did over-achieve, and I can't see us repeating it without LS, but we can continue trying to build the team. Unfortunately that means signing players who aren't useless three-legged donkeys, and, well our recent record is not so good in that respect.......

Greavesie » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:28 pm wrote:From a practical perspective it makes sense selling Suarez now, he's our best player and the best I've seen in the shirt by a distance but if he wanted to go then we let him. We're Liverpool FC for Christ sake and I can't believe someone would think its the end of us just because Luis has decided to leave

I can't believe someone would think its the end of us just because Luis has decided to leave

I don't think even the most despairing of voices really think that.

Most of the cries of anguish are based on the realisation that with Suarez gone we have suffered a massive dent in our teams abilities and we have to seriously re-evaluate of expectations for the immediate future.

Put it this way.  If Suarez was with us for next season most of us would expect that with a bit of strengthening we'd push on and once again be challenging even more strongly for the title that we almost won last term.

However with Suarez gone I suspect most of us fear that at best we'll again be scrapping for 4th , 5th or 6th 

Of course LFC will "Walk On" but with the loss of Luis Suarez just not as quickly as was anticipated. 

woof woof ! » Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:33 pm wrote:

Greavesie » Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:28 pm wrote:From a practical perspective it makes sense selling Suarez now, he's our best player and the best I've seen in the shirt by a distance but if he wanted to go then we let him. We're Liverpool FC for Christ sake and I can't believe someone would think its the end of us just because Luis has decided to leave

I can't believe someone would think its the end of us just because Luis has decided to leave

I don't think even the most despairing of voices really think that.

Most of the cries of anguish are based on the realisation that with Suarez gone we have suffered a massive dent in our teams abilities and we have to seriously re-evaluate of expectations for the immediate future.

Put it this way.  If Suarez was with us for next season most of us would expect that with a bit of strengthening we'd push on and once again be challenging even more strongly for the title that we almost won last term.

However with Suarez gone I suspect most of us fear that at best we'll again be scrapping for 4th , 5th or 6th 

Of course LFC will "Walk On" but with the loss of Luis Suarez just not as quickly as was anticipated. 

A bit of common sense, thank you.

I am worried that losing a player of this calibre (lets face it, we've never had one this good before) is going to set us back years. Lets face it, beyond him we didn't exactly have a wealth of talent available now do we. Its not like you see all the top clubs wanting any other player we have on our books.

With Suarez, I believe we had a chance of pushing on next season and really improving. I believe it would have been easier to sign better players. Now without him, the top players will be looking at our squad thinking... why would I want to go and play there? Who am I going to be playing with? Chances are the season after we won't be in the champions league anyway.

We need at least two marquee signings. One at either end of the pitch, whats more is, they have to be quality. For that we need to pay money.