RedAnt » Fri Feb 14, 2014 3:25 am wrote:Actually it's a Liverpool football club forum. There's places to discuss the wider game. But every time i try to post something, you shoot me down with derailing comments.
I'll try to clarify my point since you're not getting it. There are different types of playing the game, which ever position you play. Toure is a good defender who's been in the game a lot of years. He's not classy or a world class defender, but he knows his job. Skrtel too, big, strong, brave, aggressive. Agger is slightly different, a little more lean, better on the ball, smarter in the brain.
These guys are decent defenders. Throw in your list too. But there's another type of defender. I used Maldini as an example. Good in the air, strong in the tackle, but Maldini is a very rare "true quality" defender. He was as strong in the air as Skrtel, an excellent tackler. But what puts him head and shoulders above your Toure's, Skrtel's, and even Jaap Stams is that he had everything else too. He didn't often need to tackle. His anticipation and awareness meant it was never an issue. By the time his opponent had set himself, Paolo had the ball under control and fed to a midfielder. Defending at it's finest. These players are rare, unique even. We have to make do with what we have. You keep wanting to replace all our players. You know the transfer windows closed right? I question the wisdom of filling threads with talk of who can replace the player in question when the summer time comes, when most of us are bang in the middle of our finest season for a while. Maybe you need to refocus, and rather than slate the players even in victory, maybe give Kolo Toure the Internet equivalent of a pat on the back and say "there, there big lad. We all make mistakes. We're still in good shape. Lets do all we can to make those own goals mean nothin". Or if you must discuss replacing our players, do it in a more fitting thread so people can discuss the reality of the situation.
Good form. Good spirits. On course for what we expected this season, and perhaps even being in the running for the title.
I'd like to keep posting here, but if you're gonna keep doing that thing you do, Stu, we're just gonna clash again and again, and I'll be gone for good. I don't read the forums to argue with you. I keep myself to myself, and am never petty or unfair. I back up my points and try to keep on topic. I know I tend to ramble and wander off into philosophy at times. So far as I know, nobody here has had a problem with me. Just you Stu, every time. I try my best to be polite and respectful towards you but I get nothing back. You insult me and respond to my posts with accusations of trying to wind people up, which is a hypocritical act when you think about it.
If you don't like my posts, try not to read them. If you can't resist reading, try not to respond. If you can't resist responding, please be as critical as you like, but make it constructive and be polite. Please.
To be honest Ant I think you need to grow a pair of balls mate and stop being so sensitive.
Of course if you post something I think is ridiculous I'm going to tell you. I'm more than happy to explain why as well, if you look at all these times I've supposedly jumped on you, you'll probably see a post as long as yours explaining why I think you're talking cr*p. Its very rare that if someone makes an effort to post something that I won't return that effort in the response.
As I said with regards to if's and buts, I use them to make points about certain things. If you just want to discuss the here and now then that's your perogative, but I don't. I have no problem what so ever you either, I don't have a problem with most people on the board, to be honest, there are one or two I think are complete muppets, but I'm quite sure everyone thinks that about someone at some point and that doesn't mean if I saw them in person I wouldn't have a bevy an watch a game with them. To be honest, I don't really care what anyone on here does think of me personally, as no-one on here knows me, and I'd expect most people who use the site are of the same opinion.
And please don't come out with this "I'll stop posting for good" lark. It just looks pathetic... Have your opinion, have your say, tell someone they're talking sh!te (you might like it), agree with someone, thats part of the fun of using the place. Sometimes its even good fun just to wind someone up.
Look at the contempt the the likes of RED LUCASGOGGLES or yakka tw*t name show me... doesn't mean we can't
OCCASIONALLY agree on the rare occasion they talk sense.
Do us all a favour and don't take it so personally. Its not like I'm sitting their calling your mum a prostitute or something, I'm simply questioning your knowledge or opinions on a sport.
Back onto topic slight, I agree totally about Maldini being ten steps ahead and being able to do everything. But the likes of Stam and Ferdinand were very much of that Ilk too. Not as good as Paolo, but not many have been.
Your use of words didn't make sense to me, when you say quality, I'd describe Coutinho as a true quality player. Messi and Ronaldo I would call elite players and the likes or Suarez etc as world class.
With regards to Toure, I haven't really ripped into him as he's done pretty much what I expected and I think opinion on him is pretty right. With regards to the waste of space playing next to him, I've seen him make errors that I wouldn't expect to make myself in a game and would be fuming with myself if I did, and that for me is just not good enough that a lad is getting paid £70,000 a week over five years is the sort of player who isn't better than amateur at every aspect of the game.
) Stop taking him so seriously. It is nothing more than a bit of banter. I don't believe like the rest of us that he has anything against you. Stu tells it how he sees it. Sometimes we will agree and sometimes we won't. That's life. 
