Benny The Noon » Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:44 pm wrote:But if a person holds the countries passport and hasn't represented any other country why shouldn't they be allowed to play for that country ?
If you are going to not allow the "5 year nationalisation" people then it should be a blanket ban and only players born in that country can play for them.
Why should people be treated differently because of the age they moved and the reasons ?
Benny The Noon » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:10 pm wrote:So how come people still feel pride when Kevin Peteirson smashes a ton to beat the Aussies.
I don't think any player has been "brought" to the country for the " sole" reason to represent them and I don't think anyone ever will be. They arrive to represent a club within a country and in that period they could develop national pride with England - and if that player scored the winner for England then people would give two shits IMO mate.
I represent my country with my job and I represented my countries military in sports events so I know exactly what it means to represent my country.
Look it at the other way - what did you think if Hargreaves playing for England ? What if Holtby wanted to play for England ?
If a player has a British passport they are no longer "some foreigner" - they are a British National.
Benny The Noon » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:32 pm wrote:Hargreaves never once played or lived in the uk before he was picked for England - they had to get him a passport so he could play - he was no more English than someone living in this country for 5 years.
Kevin Pieterson was South African until he couldn't get into their academy system and changed allegiances and had to go through a 4 year qualifying period to represent England. He only arrived in the country for Sport Reasons
Costa is different because he has already represented Brazil and shouldn't be allowed to represent Spain
But IMO anyone who is a British National with a British Passport can play for England.
damjan193 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 1:00 am wrote:
Obviously you don't understand the point of representing a country (which has maybe been lost, as you said).
When a country sends someone to represent them, they send something of their own, something that, in a way, the country has produced. Sending some foreigner who has lived there for 5 years, or even worse, who has been brought to that country for the sole reason of representing them makes no sense to me. When English fans see Gerrard score a screamer it makes them feel proud of being English and happy that England has such a player. The whole thing will lose its effect IMO, if for example Januzaj does that for England in the near future.
Ben Patrick » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:41 pm wrote:Not sure about Trott or Froome but stand by what I said. If any sports person comes to the country to work then for me they will never be British.
Ben Patrick » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:41 pm wrote:Not sure about Trott or Froome but stand by what I said. If any sports person comes to the country to work then for me they will never be British.
Benny The Noon » Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:05 pm wrote:.
It's hard to determine boundaries and to pick who should and shouldn't play for the country and think the current rules seem fine as I can't remember there being many complaints about who represents the country in any sport as long as they represent the country with honour and pride and distinction.
Benny The Noon » Sun Oct 13, 2013 6:41 am wrote:Ben Patrick » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:41 pm wrote:Not sure about Trott or Froome but stand by what I said. If any sports person comes to the country to work then for me they will never be British.
Do you believe that anyone who holds a British Passport is British ( by law they are )
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