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Postby devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am

So you think Hustler is being critical when he idiotically states that BR has destroyed the squad? And I suppose you think "Depends if he is wearing a gum shield" is an acceptable comment that you made about Suarez which you later claimed in a typically grovelling manner that it was a joke!

REPETITIVE AND CONSTANT PATHETIC NEGATIVITY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SUCCESS OF THIS FORUM. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL YOU TO FK OFF BEFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY TAKE NOTICE. YOU WERE RECENTLY WARNED BY BY THE MODS TO BEHAVE.JUST WHAT THE FK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

Sorry mods but BTN is beyond help.
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Postby Santa » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:29 am

Thommo's perm » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:39 pm wrote:
devaney » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:27 pm wrote:
Thommo's perm » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:58 pm wrote:Hustler2:
"Because Rodgers spouts a few clever words, hes shanks is he? Shanks rebuilt the team + won a few trophies, + installed the right ethic. Rodgers has destroyed our squad and filled it with mediocre hasbeens, although we started well, I guaruntee we dont finish top 5. Not with that squad. Shanks managed 15 years, but rodgers wont get 3/4/5 years if we dont get top 4. He wont get it. Just coz they both managed small clubs doesnt mean they are alike."

Thanks for your response
I totally understand why people bristle with indignation and fury when I compare Rodgers with Shankly. The man was a living legend and set the foundations for our total dominance for decades. However, he didnt do it overnight and he had to fight to bring basic principles along with passion and know-how.
I have to correct you though, I never said he was Shanks, I said he is like Shanks. People fall into the trap (not mine) of thinking I am comparing Rodgers with the succsessful and domineering force that Shanks eventually became. Why would I? How could I? I would have to be as thick as benny the beaut to even consider that our current manager is half the man that Shanks ended up becoming.
No, I use the analogy to take the positives and comparisons in the two managers tenure. Again I have to disagree that Rodgers has "destroyed our squad and filled it with mediocre hasbeens". I actually havent got a clue what you mean by that as I see a squad that has been getting better month on month? We have seen an increase in team spirit and confidence and a group of people who are working together and singing from the same hymn sheet. That is down to Rodgers, like it was down to Shankly when he first came.
You have given another comparison with him coming from a small club. Shankly wasnt everyones choice and took years to get it right, and maybe Rodgers wont be given the same amount of time. But thats more down to the age we live in than his inability to get it right.
I dont know if he will be as successful as Shanks was, probably not as Shanks broke the mould, but he has the same drive and work ethic and, like Shankly will have to prove himself to the doubters. I honestly dont see the harm in the comparison, in fact I think people should embrace it and get behind the concept so it will galvanise the club and make us stronger.
But, as I said, I understand why people dont share my view
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Great post Thommo. I honestly think some people are only happy if they can wallow in misery. I find it amazing that anybody can be so stupid as to consider that BR and the team were under no pressure during the second half of last season. It's just complete fkg nonsense. And then you've got Hustler suggesting that BR has destroyed the squad. Intelligent debate this isn't.


Calling our manager mediocre and our team hasbeens saddens me. If the people who said it are reds, dont they realise what theyre doing? Dont they realise how important it is to be supporting the club rather than looking for ways to criticise and attack?
Im not naive enough to believe we have a team full of world class players, but to me, if you pull on a red shirt then you get support. Unless and until you prove youre not worthy to wear it. Like Downing for example
We have a good squad with a great blend of youth and experience yet some are happier to highlight the negatives. Why? Who knows.
They must get pleasure from it though because they continue to do it, and you dont do things unless you enjoy them...
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Some so-called "supporters" are just too happy to paint a negative light to everything the club is doing, be it the owner, manager, chief executives, coaches, players, tactics, signings etc etc I sometime wonder why don't they switch allegiance and support City or Chelsea instead? Then I realised those clubs are already full of plastics so these guys will not be getting the amount of attention they craved so they come in here and stir sh-it instead.

Last year we had a bad start and don't register a win until late Sep, by then the season is over for us and so they called out BR as naive and second rated. This season we started off with three wins out of three yet the same bunch still comes in here and saying our squad is not good enough, we didn't score enough, we are a bunch of no hopers etc kinda cr@p. I'm sure when we did qualify for Europe, they will still find some rubbish to be critical about...I'm not sure what kind of upbringing these guys are brought up with thinking the world operates like a computer game where everything can be made perfect...well sunshine, time to smell the coffee and realised that it's not as easy in the real world.

Saying that BR has destroyed the squad is (in Alonso's words) Pure Genius. Now we have a bunch of has-beens...yeah guys like Cautinho who is unwanted by Milan, Sturridge who couldn't get any game time with City and Chelsea or Toure who has been cast off by City. Sure we didn't break the bank, being held at ransom and sign the likes of Ozil or other "big" names who might waltz in here and destroy the team spirit that Brandon is trying to built. He is "like Shank" because he has taken on a club who are under-performing and trying to build a solid foundation to move us upwards. He is "like Shank" because he believes in the principle of hard work and playing for the shirt. He is "like Shank" because he understands that a TEAM is more than just a few marquee players trying to go through the motion and collect their pay cheque. In fact I'm sure if a young Shankly were to walks in here today as our manager, these exact bunch will sprout the same sh1t they did to Brandon .

I always believe having a team of motivated players and playing with the right team spirit will bring us far. Remember our greatest triumph in the past 10 years was achieved with hardly any big star names but a team full of players such as Smicer, Baros, Biscan, Traore, Cisse, Garcia, Dudek, Riise, Mellor, Kewell, Josemi, Sinama-Pongolle, Diao etc. These are the players the idiotic few will cut down to pieces and rate as "useless" "not fit to wear the jersey" "liability" etc if they are still in our team today...guessed the idiotic few must have a few choice words to criticise Rafa immediately after Istanbul huh?
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Postby Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:25 am

There are very few times that I am inspired by what someone has written on here, but that was class Santa
Instead of waffling b0llocks and trying to score petty points by insisting that "I have an opinion and I am going to express it" some people should read this and hang their heads with shame and embarrassment at the sh'ite they post
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 11:55 am

First of all Santa - our managers name is Brendan not Brandon - so it's extremely laughable that you can have a go at people's support because they are critical when you can't even get our managers name right.

Also if having a go at people's support isn't point scoring I don't know what is.

When was it decided that buying players like Ozil would ruin team spirit ? Did that happen when we purchased players like Torres or Xabi ?

And yes we did win a CL with a decent squad moulded together by a world class proven manager.
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Postby devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 12:23 pm

Brilliant post Santa. Good to read something from a true supporter. Great shame that the resident know it all has to resort to typos to try and make a pathetic point. I also seem to remember that Rafa won the 2005 CL with mostly Houllier's team but just lets forget that minor detail! I'm struggling to see were you are actually criticising supporters - making a perfectly valid point is fact not criticism - I'm not surprised that some people are incapable of seeing the irony in that.And Santa please remember that it was Mancini who lost the dressing room according to BTN and nothing to do with the fact that he was trying to keep an overpaid bunch of prima donnas happy that won them absolutely nothing last season - YAH DE YAH DE YAH !!!!

It's hardly worth bothering mate but like you I'm passionate about Liverpool FC and I just can't stand supporters like BTN and Stu who find it impossible to say virtually anything positive.
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Postby Santa » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:01 pm

Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:55 am wrote:First of all Santa - our managers name is Brendan not Brandon - so it's extremely laughable that you can have a go at people's support because they are critical when you can't even get our managers name right.

Also if having a go at people's support isn't point scoring I don't know what is.

When was it decided that buying players like Ozil would ruin team spirit ? Did that happen when we purchased players like Torres or Xabi ?

And yes we did win a CL with a decent squad moulded together by a world class proven manager.


Oh for that piece of typo I should hang my head in shame right? you imbecile...

don't understand what the fuk are you complaining about???...so far we only have 4 games to play and we have WON THEM ALL so what more do you miserable souls want? it's not like we are already 20 games in and we are so far out of touch with the leaders or the team is not gelling properly or we are being inconsistent etc that worth something to complain about. I for one am not jumping for joy and predict that we are going to win the league and neither should you pathetic piece of trash start slating the manager, team or the club at this time. At least have the decency to accept that this is a sign of progress & that there might be something to hoped for this season. And while we can openly discuss our potential shortcomings on this forum, you are constantly trying to spread your brand of negative vibes over here on EVERY threads and it is repetitive and I have long since got bored with your pessimism...I am sure many here will share my sentiments. It is because of tools like you who are turning this forum into a gloomy place and I can't see the reason for you to be here, or to be the club supporter at all. Remember a supporter supports...you're a detractor to everything this club represents and that makes you a certified tool (or a bitter whom have nothing to look forward to for a long time coming so that leaves you lots of time to come here and spam these threads?  :rasp )

Go get a life will ya?...but then again you must be a miserable person to get along with which means YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE A LIFE!
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:19 pm

Again this is a forum where people should be free to openly discuss their opinion and views on the club/squad/owners etc without being attacked by other supporters who don't share the same view.

This isn't Anfield - it's a forum.

And if being critical means that you question people's support then every single person on here must be a poor supporter because every single person on here i can guarantee has been critical about something connected to the club

Read every single thread about a player or manager or owner and you will find someone being critical - doesnt mean they are any less a supporter than the happy clappy group.

You can point out exactly which bit of "pathetic trash " about the team you are talking about ?

You can also tell me why someone like Ozil or any marquee type player will disturb team spirit and why players like Torres etc didnt disturb it ?

The rest of your post is just full of insults - remember you didnt actually spell the managers name wrong - you actually got the name itself wrong. So before you start questioning my support - ensure yours is squeaky clean.
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Postby Kenny Kan » Tue Sep 10, 2013 1:31 pm

Good post Santa.  :)

The fact our resident WUM had to resort to typos only makes your points stronger, well done.
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Postby Hustler 2 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:11 pm

devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am wrote:REPETITIVE AND CONSTANT PATHETIC NEGATIVITY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SUCCESS OF THIS FORUM. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL YOU TO FK OFF BEFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY TAKE NOTICE. YOU WERE RECENTLY WARNED BY BY THE MODS TO BEHAVE.JUST WHAT THE FK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

Sorry mods but BTN is beyond help.


Have you got enough BOLD in your post there to stress your point!??

Success of the forum? This forum should be open to good and bad comments, and we should be able to criticise players, manager, the board etc.
People in here, like Thommos Perm, think they are always right and their posts should be taken as Gospel. They don't like opinions other than their own.

Just because we don't all stick our tongue down the back of Rodgers pants, doesn't mean we don't support the club. I personally thought he should not have been given the job in the first place. I will be proved right when in 2/3 years time, we still haven't qualified for Europe, lost our best players, and are right down sh*t creek. Because that's where he is leading us.  :nod

Critisism is part of the debate, and this is a football forum, not a Christian "Love In"

Get real all of you.  :p
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Postby Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:16 pm

Hustler 2 wrote:
devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am wrote:REPETITIVE AND CONSTANT PATHETIC NEGATIVITY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SUCCESS OF THIS FORUM. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL YOU TO FK OFF BEFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY TAKE NOTICE. YOU WERE RECENTLY WARNED BY BY THE MODS TO BEHAVE.JUST WHAT THE FK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

Sorry mods but BTN is beyond help.


Have you got enough BOLD in your post there to stress your point!??

Success of the forum? This forum should be open to good and bad comments, and we should be able to criticise players, manager, the board etc.
People in here, like Thommos Perm, think they are always right and their posts should be taken as Gospel. They don't like opinions other than their own.
Critisism is part of the debate, and this is a football forum, not a Christian "Love In"

Get real all of you.  :p



I dont think I'm always right!
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I KNOW I'm always right!!
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Postby Hustler 2 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:21 pm

Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:16 pm wrote:
Hustler 2 wrote:
devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am wrote:REPETITIVE AND CONSTANT PATHETIC NEGATIVITY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SUCCESS OF THIS FORUM. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL YOU TO FK OFF BEFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY TAKE NOTICE. YOU WERE RECENTLY WARNED BY BY THE MODS TO BEHAVE.JUST WHAT THE FK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

Sorry mods but BTN is beyond help.


Have you got enough BOLD in your post there to stress your point!??

Success of the forum? This forum should be open to good and bad comments, and we should be able to criticise players, manager, the board etc.
People in here, like Thommos Perm, think they are always right and their posts should be taken as Gospel. They don't like opinions other than their own.
Critisism is part of the debate, and this is a football forum, not a Christian "Love In"

Get real all of you.  :p



I dont think I'm always right!
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I KNOW I'm always right!!
:;):

There you go! Perfect example.
Funny thing is Thommo, you don't control the club, the team, the forum, or other people. They are just your opinions only!  :rasp
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Postby Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm

Ive got no problems with peoples opinions. I just get fed up when theyre constantly negative and petty.
Tell me what the point is in being negative? What does it gain? What use is it to moan? What does it achieve?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:27 pm

Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm wrote:Ive got no problems with peoples opinions. I just get fed up when theyre constantly negative and petty.
Tell me what the point is in being negative? What does it gain? What use is it to moan? What does it achieve?
???


Have you never been negative about the team then ? Or a player ? If so what did it achieve when you were negative and what did you gain ?
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Postby Hustler 2 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:29 pm

Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm wrote:Ive got no problems with peoples opinions. I just get fed up when theyre constantly negative and petty.
Tell me what the point is in being negative? What does it gain? What use is it to moan? What does it achieve?
???

I guess it's just people who are a bit angry, are peeved about something, who want to get it off their chest.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:48 pm

Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:27 pm wrote:
Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm wrote:Ive got no problems with peoples opinions. I just get fed up when theyre constantly negative and petty.
Tell me what the point is in being negative? What does it gain? What use is it to moan? What does it achieve?
???


Have you never been negative about the team then ? Or a player ? If so what did it achieve when you were negative and what did you gain ?


This is where you fail miserably with your attempts at debate or argument
I didnt say that I wasnt negative sometimes. Of course I am, because sometimes I am unhappy with a performance or the attitude of a player, or the calibre of a manager, or the decisions of the board. I am not, as you stupidly say a "happy clappy" who thinks everything in the garden is rosy, and I have had serious doubts and concerns over the last 10 years with good reason.
BUT, the big difference between us is that you are CONSTANTLY negative and get so much joy in slagging the team or players or the manager or the owners. Day after day we see your moaning and drivel, then winding people up who ask you to stop. Then derailing threads time after time so that people insult you and YOU become the topic of conversation rather than the club.
I actually stopped coming on here for a month recently because of you, with your Suarez comments and Rodgers criticisms. Bigging up Fail Madrid on an LFC forum is mental to me and I could never, ever see myself doing it. There is no sense in what you do, no rational thinking, its purely because you want to and you can, so you do. I have tried reasoning with you, then insulting you, then ignoring you but it makes no difference because you are what you are: an opinionated pr'ick
I would really rather not talk to you and ask you to desist in commenting on my posts but you will just carry on as normal so I'm not going to try any more.
You are a pathetic, sad individual who takes pleasure in constantly slagging off LFC, or to put it your way "having an opinion", and you are either too stupid to see it or you dont care.
Either way youre not a real fan because real fans support LFC. You dont
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