Thommo's perm » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:39 pm wrote:devaney » Mon Sep 09, 2013 11:27 pm wrote:Thommo's perm » Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:58 pm wrote:Hustler2:
"Because Rodgers spouts a few clever words, hes shanks is he? Shanks rebuilt the team + won a few trophies, + installed the right ethic. Rodgers has destroyed our squad and filled it with mediocre hasbeens, although we started well, I guaruntee we dont finish top 5. Not with that squad. Shanks managed 15 years, but rodgers wont get 3/4/5 years if we dont get top 4. He wont get it. Just coz they both managed small clubs doesnt mean they are alike."
Thanks for your response
I totally understand why people bristle with indignation and fury when I compare Rodgers with Shankly. The man was a living legend and set the foundations for our total dominance for decades. However, he didnt do it overnight and he had to fight to bring basic principles along with passion and know-how.
I have to correct you though, I never said he was Shanks, I said he is like Shanks. People fall into the trap (not mine) of thinking I am comparing Rodgers with the succsessful and domineering force that Shanks eventually became. Why would I? How could I? I would have to be as thick as benny the beaut to even consider that our current manager is half the man that Shanks ended up becoming.
No, I use the analogy to take the positives and comparisons in the two managers tenure. Again I have to disagree that Rodgers has "destroyed our squad and filled it with mediocre hasbeens". I actually havent got a clue what you mean by that as I see a squad that has been getting better month on month? We have seen an increase in team spirit and confidence and a group of people who are working together and singing from the same hymn sheet. That is down to Rodgers, like it was down to Shankly when he first came.
You have given another comparison with him coming from a small club. Shankly wasnt everyones choice and took years to get it right, and maybe Rodgers wont be given the same amount of time. But thats more down to the age we live in than his inability to get it right.
I dont know if he will be as successful as Shanks was, probably not as Shanks broke the mould, but he has the same drive and work ethic and, like Shankly will have to prove himself to the doubters. I honestly dont see the harm in the comparison, in fact I think people should embrace it and get behind the concept so it will galvanise the club and make us stronger.
But, as I said, I understand why people dont share my view
Great post Thommo. I honestly think some people are only happy if they can wallow in misery. I find it amazing that anybody can be so stupid as to consider that BR and the team were under no pressure during the second half of last season. It's just complete fkg nonsense. And then you've got Hustler suggesting that BR has destroyed the squad. Intelligent debate this isn't.
Calling our manager mediocre and our team hasbeens saddens me. If the people who said it are reds, dont they realise what theyre doing? Dont they realise how important it is to be supporting the club rather than looking for ways to criticise and attack?
Im not naive enough to believe we have a team full of world class players, but to me, if you pull on a red shirt then you get support. Unless and until you prove youre not worthy to wear it. Like Downing for example
We have a good squad with a great blend of youth and experience yet some are happier to highlight the negatives. Why? Who knows.
They must get pleasure from it though because they continue to do it, and you dont do things unless you enjoy them...
Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 10:55 am wrote:First of all Santa - our managers name is Brendan not Brandon - so it's extremely laughable that you can have a go at people's support because they are critical when you can't even get our managers name right.
Also if having a go at people's support isn't point scoring I don't know what is.
When was it decided that buying players like Ozil would ruin team spirit ? Did that happen when we purchased players like Torres or Xabi ?
And yes we did win a CL with a decent squad moulded together by a world class proven manager.
devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am wrote:REPETITIVE AND CONSTANT PATHETIC NEGATIVITY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SUCCESS OF THIS FORUM. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL YOU TO FK OFF BEFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY TAKE NOTICE. YOU WERE RECENTLY WARNED BY BY THE MODS TO BEHAVE.JUST WHAT THE FK IS YOUR PROBLEM?
Sorry mods but BTN is beyond help.
Hustler 2 wrote:devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am wrote:REPETITIVE AND CONSTANT PATHETIC NEGATIVITY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SUCCESS OF THIS FORUM. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL YOU TO FK OFF BEFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY TAKE NOTICE. YOU WERE RECENTLY WARNED BY BY THE MODS TO BEHAVE.JUST WHAT THE FK IS YOUR PROBLEM?
Sorry mods but BTN is beyond help.
Have you got enough BOLD in your post there to stress your point!??
Success of the forum? This forum should be open to good and bad comments, and we should be able to criticise players, manager, the board etc.
People in here, like Thommos Perm, think they are always right and their posts should be taken as Gospel. They don't like opinions other than their own.
Critisism is part of the debate, and this is a football forum, not a Christian "Love In"
Get real all of you.
Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:16 pm wrote:Hustler 2 wrote:devaney » Tue Sep 10, 2013 8:37 am wrote:REPETITIVE AND CONSTANT PATHETIC NEGATIVITY DOES NOT CONTRIBUTE TOWARDS THE SUCCESS OF THIS FORUM. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO TELL YOU TO FK OFF BEFORE YOU WILL ACTUALLY TAKE NOTICE. YOU WERE RECENTLY WARNED BY BY THE MODS TO BEHAVE.JUST WHAT THE FK IS YOUR PROBLEM?
Sorry mods but BTN is beyond help.
Have you got enough BOLD in your post there to stress your point!??
Success of the forum? This forum should be open to good and bad comments, and we should be able to criticise players, manager, the board etc.
People in here, like Thommos Perm, think they are always right and their posts should be taken as Gospel. They don't like opinions other than their own.
Critisism is part of the debate, and this is a football forum, not a Christian "Love In"
Get real all of you.
I dont think I'm always right!
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I KNOW I'm always right!!
Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm wrote:Ive got no problems with peoples opinions. I just get fed up when theyre constantly negative and petty.
Tell me what the point is in being negative? What does it gain? What use is it to moan? What does it achieve?
Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm wrote:Ive got no problems with peoples opinions. I just get fed up when theyre constantly negative and petty.
Tell me what the point is in being negative? What does it gain? What use is it to moan? What does it achieve?
Benny The Noon » Tue Sep 10, 2013 2:27 pm wrote:Thommo's perm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:25 pm wrote:Ive got no problems with peoples opinions. I just get fed up when theyre constantly negative and petty.
Tell me what the point is in being negative? What does it gain? What use is it to moan? What does it achieve?
Have you never been negative about the team then ? Or a player ? If so what did it achieve when you were negative and what did you gain ?
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