Ok, everyone seems to think on these boards that the garden is rosie and everything is great and we're a wonderful side.
So...
Take Gerrard, Suarez and Coutinho (assuming no one would argue they're our best three players) out of our team and where do you think we'd finish?
Then the same again for the Mancs, Arsenal, Chelsea etc.
Assuming United's best three players are Vidic, Van Persie and Rooney... I still think they would in and around fifth place or so without those players.
Chelsea, without Cech, Mata and Hazard, would for me roughly be around 8th...
Arsenal, Ozil, Wilshere and Koscielny (possibly) still in and around the top four.
City, Toure, Kompany and Aguero, again for me top four easily.