damjan193 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:55 pm wrote:SouthCoastShankly » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:06 pm wrote:damjan193 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:19 pm wrote:Come on guys, just look at the maximum points we can get from all of our remaining fixtures. We can get 27 points max. That would leave us with a total of 72 points at the end of the season. Looking at previous seasons, you'll need at least 70 points to get to 4th. So in order for us to get 4th, we're allowed to draw only one game out of the remaining nine. Since it's possible, I'm not giving up yet cause, you now, that's what football is all about, but looking at it realistically, we have no chance. I just can't see us going on an unbeaten run until the end of the season, never mind winning 90% of those games. We're in good form, but not that good. We'll probably finish 6th.
Errr no![]()
Let's look at the actual stats, last 2 years finishes for 3rd and 4th were -
2011-12
3rd - Arsenal 70pts
4th - Tottenham - 69pts
2010-11
3rd - Man City 71pts
4th - Arsenal 68pts
4th clearly isn't at least 70pts to achieve.
My God, how could have I made such a mistake? It's not 70 points, but 69. You're right man, it makes things a whole lot different now.
Benny The Noon » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:34 am wrote:Well I certainly didnt leave the stadium and kept singing
But that was a different Liverpool back then and a situation within one game 8 years ago has no relevance to us getting 4th this season.
You cannot compare the two - 4th is not in our own hands - it's not even close to being in our own hands
We need 3 teams better than us to slip up - we need teams to suddenly start losing games - do people think that's going to happen because one time 8 years ago we came back from 3 nil down !
Some people live in a fairytale land where we are still the same club we were 5 years ago or even 25 years ago.
We haven't finished higher than 7th in 3 seasons - getting 6th will be a bonus. We don't have a chance at 4th.
SouthCoastShankly » Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:32 am wrote:damjan193 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:55 pm wrote:SouthCoastShankly » Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:06 pm wrote:Errr no![]()
Let's look at the actual stats, last 2 years finishes for 3rd and 4th were -
2011-12
3rd - Arsenal 70pts
4th - Tottenham - 69pts
2010-11
3rd - Man City 71pts
4th - Arsenal 68pts
4th clearly isn't at least 70pts to achieve.
My God, how could have I made such a mistake? It's not 70 points, but 69. You're right man, it makes things a whole lot different now.
You need to pick your words better my friend. And yes 1 or 2 points do make a massive difference in the run up to the end of the season, haven't you been watching?
Thommo's perm » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:56 pm wrote:dundreamin » Tue Feb 12, 2013 10:53 pm wrote:IS OVER. IT,S OVER get my drift
You comfort yourself with that thought if you want
I have seen many "certainties" in football through the years, so I will not say its over until its impossible
damjan193
One or two points don't change the fact that we'll probably need to go on an unbeaten run until the end of the season if we want to reach 4th, which was my whole point. That's 9 games. Add the last 3 wins to those 9 and we'll have to be on an unbeaten run of 12 games when the season ends. We'll also have to win at least 7 of those 9 remaining games (even then we might be short on points). Our unbeaten Premier League record this season has been 3 games.
Like I said, I won't abandon all hope just yet, but it would take a f*cking miracle to achieve this.
Basil » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:47 am wrote:This is our first season with a new manager and a new system, we got rid of a load of experienced players to reduce the wage bill. We played half a season short of a couple of forwards and had to bring in youngsters to bolster the squad. We've had some bad luck with decisions and made some costly mistakes, our two most experienced players are coming to the end of their careers.
Despite all this we're still in with an outside chance of 4th place with 9 games to go, we should finish at least 6th. Whatever happens this first season was always going to be about building a foundation and pushing on from there over the next couple of seasons.
I think we might get 5th if we can get a good run together but I haven't given up hope of 4th, you have to believe until the very end.
Benny The Noon » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:34 am wrote:Well I certainly didnt leave the stadium and kept singing
But that was a different Liverpool back then and a situation within one game 8 years ago has no relevance to us getting 4th this season.
You cannot compare the two - 4th is not in our own hands - it's not even close to being in our own hands
We need 3 teams better than us to slip up - we need teams to suddenly start losing games - do people think that's going to happen because one time 8 years ago we came back from 3 nil down !
Some people live in a fairytale land where we are still the same club we were 5 years ago or even 25 years ago.
We haven't finished higher than 7th in 3 seasons - getting 6th will be a bonus. We don't have a chance at 4th.
Boocity » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:28 am wrote:Basil » Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:47 am wrote:This is our first season with a new manager and a new system, we got rid of a load of experienced players to reduce the wage bill. We played half a season short of a couple of forwards and had to bring in youngsters to bolster the squad. We've had some bad luck with decisions and made some costly mistakes, our two most experienced players are coming to the end of their careers.
Despite all this we're still in with an outside chance of 4th place with 9 games to go, we should finish at least 6th. Whatever happens this first season was always going to be about building a foundation and pushing on from there over the next couple of seasons.
I think we might get 5th if we can get a good run together but I haven't given up hope of 4th, you have to believe until the very end.
Good post
Thommo's perm » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:33 am wrote:Benny The Noon » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:34 am wrote:Well I certainly didnt leave the stadium and kept singing
But that was a different Liverpool back then and a situation within one game 8 years ago has no relevance to us getting 4th this season.
You cannot compare the two - 4th is not in our own hands - it's not even close to being in our own hands
We need 3 teams better than us to slip up - we need teams to suddenly start losing games - do people think that's going to happen because one time 8 years ago we came back from 3 nil down !
Some people live in a fairytale land where we are still the same club we were 5 years ago or even 25 years ago.
We haven't finished higher than 7th in 3 seasons - getting 6th will be a bonus. We don't have a chance at 4th.
Do you think that by saying "the glass is 8/16ths empty" it sounds less full?
devaney » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:10 pm wrote:Thommo's perm » Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:33 am wrote:Benny The Noon » Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:34 am wrote:Well I certainly didnt leave the stadium and kept singing
But that was a different Liverpool back then and a situation within one game 8 years ago has no relevance to us getting 4th this season.
You cannot compare the two - 4th is not in our own hands - it's not even close to being in our own hands
We need 3 teams better than us to slip up - we need teams to suddenly start losing games - do people think that's going to happen because one time 8 years ago we came back from 3 nil down !
Some people live in a fairytale land where we are still the same club we were 5 years ago or even 25 years ago.
We haven't finished higher than 7th in 3 seasons - getting 6th will be a bonus. We don't have a chance at 4th.
Do you think that by saying "the glass is 8/16ths empty" it sounds less full?
Sh.it that will confuse the sad, whinging fukwit !! Sorry that should read attendeeHe's back to his old very depressing tricks of trying to unrail threads with his incredibly sanctimonious I'm always right and utterly boring attitude. He disappeared for three months. Either the rash has cleared up or he has been banned from RAWK
Just wish he would fk off with all his depressing shight.
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