Liverpool FC Forum

supersub » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:50 pm wrote:look in the mirror....you manc muppet....and tell me what you see

Sh*t that is deep supersub, you want me to look into my soul and describe what I find?

Ok here goes, I see a man who has his own views on life, including football, but who is perhaps a bit to stubborn. I see a guy blessed with some excellent friends, a great job which pays me a lot of money and affords me a great standard of living, 2 flats, a loving family who I adore. I see a man who is constantly trying to improve himself but who is also very content with who he is. I could go on but I somehow doubt you are qualified to offer me any constructive advice.


Now then it's your turn to look into the mirror and describe what you see, or are you maybe to scared?

Immature nonsense aside, Kenny's tactical approach leaves much to be desired.

I want to know why he continues to play Henderson on the right when Henderson clearly struggles there and is woefully ineffective.

I want to know why Kenny doesn't play the likes of Maxi, Bellamy and Kuyt more often? I also want to know why Kenny doesn't seem to know his best formation or tactics, nor his best starting 11. I also want to know why Kenny makes the tactical changes he makes, which are often too little, too late! Lastly I want to know why Kenny has been plodding along all season, seemingly alert to our problems, yet seemingly no rush to find the solutions. Its been evident that we have needed a clincal finisher this season and yet no one has been brought in, why not?

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

Boxscarf » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:21 pm wrote:Immature nonsense aside, Kenny's tactical approach leaves much to be desired.

I want to know why he continues to play Henderson on the right when Henderson clearly struggles there and is woefully ineffective.

I want to know why Kenny doesn't play the likes of Maxi, Bellamy and Kuyt more often? I also want to know why Kenny doesn't seem to know his best formation or tactics, nor his best starting 11. I also want to know why Kenny makes the tactical changes he makes, which are often too little, too late! Lastly I want to know why Kenny has been plodding along all season, seemingly alert to our problems, yet seemingly no rush to find the solutions. It's been evident that we have needed a clincal finisher this season and yet no one has been brought in, why not?

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".

I suppose you're not the slightest bit interested how he managed to turn over the Premierships top two teams in England's most illustrious cup competition ?
Still who needs to garner any positives when there are a multitude of questions pertaining to our down swing in fortunes .

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:32 pm wrote:
I suppose you're not the slightest bit interested how he managed to turn over the Premierships top two teams in England's most illustrious cup competition ?
Still who needs to garner any positives when there are a multitude of questions pertaining to our down swing in fortunes .

There seems to be a real issue with Liverpool fans in terms of extremes of opinion. It's quite possible to be delighted with our cup form and highly angry with our league form, a form which has seen us accumulate less points at this stage this season then at the same stage in the seasons gone by!

This Liverpool team on its day is a match for anybody, never have I suggested otherwise, however this Liverpool team is also a team that struggles to defeat teams like Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, a team which sits in 8th in the league and could finish 11th by the end of the season. I think supporters have every right to question Kenny and those who wish to put their fingers in their ears and refuse to say a bad word about the man are not better supporters than those who questions some of Kenny's decisions.

Boxscarf » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:43 pm wrote:
There seems to be a real issue with Liverpool fans in terms of extremes of opinion. It's quite possible to be delighted with our cup form and highly angry with our league form, a form which has seen us accumulate less points at this stage this season then at the same stage in the seasons gone by!

This Liverpool team on its day is a match for anybody, never have I suggested otherwise, however this Liverpool team is also a team that struggles to defeat teams like Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, a team which sits in 8th in the league and could finish 11th by the end of the season. I think supporters have every right to question Kenny and those who wish to put their fingers in their ears and refuse to say a bad word about the man are not better supporters than those who questions some of Kenny's decisions.

I don't believe anyone is pushing their fingers in their ears ,we all know how disconcerting our league form is  ,but it would also serve 
us well if we highlighted the positives from the season rather than continually listing the negatives whilst listening to the relentless
push from the media to oust Dalglish ..... Listen, the journalists  havent a fucking clue about what makes us tick ,yet they
foolishly believe we can be brow beaten into losing faith with the one man who knows the club and us fans inside out .

It wont happen,simple as .

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:51 pm wrote:

Boxscarf » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:43 pm wrote:
There seems to be a real issue with Liverpool fans in terms of extremes of opinion. It's quite possible to be delighted with our cup form and highly angry with our league form, a form which has seen us accumulate less points at this stage this season then at the same stage in the seasons gone by!

This Liverpool team on its day is a match for anybody, never have I suggested otherwise, however this Liverpool team is also a team that struggles to defeat teams like Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, a team which sits in 8th in the league and could finish 11th by the end of the season. I think supporters have every right to question Kenny and those who wish to put their fingers in their ears and refuse to say a bad word about the man are not better supporters than those who questions some of Kenny's decisions.

I don't believe anyone is pushing their fingers in their ears ,we all know how disconcerting our league form is  ,but it would also serve 
us well if we highlighted the positives from the season rather than continually listing the negatives whilst listening to the relentless
push from the media to oust Dalglish ..... Listen, the journalists  havent a fucking clue about what makes us tick ,yet they
foolishly believe we can be brow beaten into losing faith with the one man who knows the club and us fans inside out .

It wont happen,simple as .

Again with the conspiracy nonsense about the whole world hating us, it simply isn't true. Can you actually provide any evidence that the FA or media are systematically trying to undermine us or is it all just paranoid delusions?

heimdall » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:24 am wrote:

Again with the conspiracy nonsense about the whole world hating us, it simply isn't true. Can you actually provide any evidence that the FA or media are systematically trying to undermine us or is it all just paranoid delusions?

Seriously ?

Dalglish is in a very tangible and literal sense lampooned in every tabloid you care to pick up ,and not in an affectionate way either .
The man's integrity has been called into question on far too many occasions, its been open season on the fella .

In the post you quoted I acknowledged our dreadful league form ,yet you continually refuse to accept the evidence that transgressions
against us on the FA's behalf  have been accepted as a given by most fans this season ,even those with impaired vision can still smell
the stench of some of the officials decisions that have stunk out Anfield . 

Honestly Heimdall, if you had gained an ounce of sense every time Dalglish has had a two page spread besmirching his character ,or
some blurt of a football pundit has stated how imperative John Henry cuts his losses ,then you would  certainly be the most sensible
poster on this forum.

Just open your eyes ? Or in your case wipe the sleep away ....

heimdall » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:24 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:51 pm wrote:

Boxscarf » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:43 pm wrote:
There seems to be a real issue with Liverpool fans in terms of extremes of opinion. It's quite possible to be delighted with our cup form and highly angry with our league form, a form which has seen us accumulate less points at this stage this season then at the same stage in the seasons gone by!

This Liverpool team on its day is a match for anybody, never have I suggested otherwise, however this Liverpool team is also a team that struggles to defeat teams like Norwich, Swansea and West Brom, a team which sits in 8th in the league and could finish 11th by the end of the season. I think supporters have every right to question Kenny and those who wish to put their fingers in their ears and refuse to say a bad word about the man are not better supporters than those who questions some of Kenny's decisions.

I don't believe anyone is pushing their fingers in their ears ,we all know how disconcerting our league form is  ,but it would also serve 
us well if we highlighted the positives from the season rather than continually listing the negatives whilst listening to the relentless
push from the media to oust Dalglish ..... Listen, the journalists  havent a fucking clue about what makes us tick ,yet they
foolishly believe we can be brow beaten into losing faith with the one man who knows the club and us fans inside out .

It wont happen,simple as .

Again with the conspiracy nonsense about the whole world hating us, it simply isn't true. Can you actually provide any evidence that the FA or media are systematically trying to undermine us or is it all just paranoid delusions?

Conspiracy nonsense? Yeah, cos papers like the S*n, managers like Fergie, establishments like the FA...honour and dignitiy from the ground upwards.

heimdall » Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:24 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:51 pm wrote:

Boxscarf » Fri Apr 27, 2012 6:43 pm wrote:

I don't believe anyone is pushing their fingers in their ears ,we all know how disconcerting our league form is  ,but it would also serve 
us well if we highlighted the positives from the season rather than continually listing the negatives whilst listening to the relentless
push from the media to oust Dalglish ..... Listen, the journalists  havent a fucking clue about what makes us tick ,yet they
foolishly believe we can be brow beaten into losing faith with the one man who knows the club and us fans inside out .

It wont happen,simple as .

Again with the conspiracy nonsense about the whole world hating us, it simply isn't true. Can you actually provide any evidence that the FA or media are systematically trying to undermine us or is it all just paranoid delusions?

Conspiracy nonsense? Yeah, cos papers like the S*n, managers like Fergie, establishments like the FA...honour and dignitiy from the ground upwards.

I'm not saying they are honourable institutions but I don't seem them slagging off Liverpool more than anyone else and in fairness Kenny deserves a bit of lampooning for our league form this season and also our handling of the Louis Suarez affair, we did ourselves no favours there.

It is a little bit like poker. You will always the 2 times you lost when dealt jacks, but never remeber the 3 times you won with them.

I don't think we REALLY get treated any differently from others, and like Heimdell has said, we don't really help ourselves sometimes.

And who gives a flying ... what the s*n says about us, couldn't care less. Fergie isn't nice about us and thats a surprise to some people? LOL

dawson99 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:14 am wrote:It is a little bit like poker. You will always the 2 times you lost when dealt jacks, but never remeber the 3 times you won with them.

I don't think we REALLY get treated any differently from others, and like Heimdell has said, we don't really help ourselves sometimes.

And who gives a flying ... what the s*n says about us, couldn't care less. Fergie isn't nice about us and thats a surprise to some people? LOL

totally agree, I really don't give a ***** what anyone says about us, it won't change how much I love this club.

But you do care. You've already mentioned the way we dealt with Suarez, and Kenny's media handling. I don't care what others such as the s*n says. I don't see why any of us should care. Sticks an' stones an' all that.

RedAnt » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:41 am wrote:But you do care. You've already mentioned the way we dealt with Suarez, and Kenny's media handling. I don't care what others such as the s*n says. I don't see why any of us should care. Sticks an' stones an' all that.

Well I care in as much as it could adversely affect sponsorships and merchandising etc

RedAnt » Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:41 am wrote:But you do care. You've already mentioned the way we dealt with Suarez, and Kenny's media handling. I don't care what others such as the s*n says. I don't see why any of us should care. Sticks an' stones an' all that.

They are all hypocritical, lying cu'nts because the reporters are hypocritical lying cu'nts

I think CM is one of our main problems this season.  Especially since the Lucas injury. Crazy since we had so many last July.
Spearing, Shelvey and Hendo have an average age of just 21!   

Its a bit harsh that people are comparing these younger lads to Masch, Alonso and Gerrard who were all mid to late 20's while at Liverpool.

To be honest, I don't think Spearing is good enough for Liverpool.  He's also at an age were you can't really call him a young player anymore.  But Shelvey and Hendo are still young and should be kept.  They just shouldn't be in our first team.  Next year we'll have Europa League and there will be plenty of opportunities for them to play.

Id sell Adam + Spearing and sign a quality player that can pass the ball and play the playmaker role.   
We need a player that can sit deep and control a game.  We dont have a player that can consistently pick out great passes.