Damien comolli leaves LFC by mutual consent

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:34 pm

Kukilon » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:19 pm wrote:
burjennio » Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:49 pm wrote:
Following Comolli's departure, Dalglish said: "He has been really helpful in every transfer target that we've gone for.

"Everyone who has come into the club since Damien has been here was of my choice.

"Once I made the choice who I wanted, Damien went away and did a fantastic job of bringing them in.


Reading over these quotes again today it glares out at me that while Kenny Dalglish stated that he identified the players he wanted, the negotiations etc in bringing them to the club was squarely in the hands of Damien Comolli, which in my estimation is stating that Mr Comolli was therefore the one responsible for spending massively over the odds for several of last summers transfers, and I for one would distance myself from that as well if I was in Kenny's shoes. Anyone in agreement or am I reading too much into KD just wishing an ex-workmate well?


Maybe the owners wanted him to clarify that to the media so he can't back out of it later on. Most people have believed that KK was not responsible for the buys and blamed Damien for them. Will make it easier to fire KK in the end if it doesn't work out.


that sounds like a bit of wishful thinking on your part, and you obviously dont know dalglish if you think he`d try to back out of any of his decisions.
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Postby Kukilon » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:46 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb I'm not saying that it was KK decision at all just that the owners wanted him to share the blame if they let him go later on. Kicking KK out is not something that can be done easily in this club.
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Postby ethanr » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:54 pm

I think the timing could potentially be a warning to everybody at the club.  They're saying that nobody is invincible, and sent out a message right before one of the most important fixtures of the season that anybody is dispensable, so get your Sh*t together or you're next.

I remember when we signed Carroll, reading something that Dalglish said.  He said something along the lines of:
They came to me and asked me if we could get Carroll, do you want him? And I said yes, of course.


I've had the feeling that when we were going after these transfers, Comolli would put together the list of players he thought would work for what we needed, and go to Kenny and say, Do you want these players?  Kenny has been all for FSG's strategy's, and probably believed Comolli knew what he was doing, so he said yes.  The fact we went almost all British almost made it seem like we were thinking we would be good on British players for the next 7 or 8 years and we could get who we wanted, no matter their nationality.  Comolli was in charge of signing these players tho, and the fact that he essentially gave in to everybody when it came to the price of the players (Referring to Hendo's and Downing's price tag mainly.  At the time we signed Carroll I don't think there were many people complaining much about the price, just thrilled we got him).  Moneyball's principal was to get these undervalued players for cheap, and we were clearly paying too much for these players.  I still believe they are potentially good players, they're just having trouble adjusting to the new squad.  I remember when the season first started Downing was looking like our best signing bar Suarez, and look where he's at now.  The simple fact is that Comolli didn't properly follow the plan, so he was sacked.

However, like ACe said earlier it was Kenny who was picking the lineup, and Kenny who put himself out there with the media.  Kenny has made plenty of mistakes this season.  I believe he deserves another season as well, but he needs to stop with some of the issues he's had this year or it will be him who goes next unfortunately.
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Postby burjennio » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:59 am


I've had the feeling that when we were going after these transfers, Comolli would put together the list of players he thought would work for what we needed, and go to Kenny and say, Do you want these players?  Kenny has been all for FSG's strategy's, and probably believed Comolli knew what he was doing, so he said yes.  The fact we went almost all British almost made it seem like we were thinking we would be good on British players for the next 7 or 8 years and we could get who we wanted, no matter their nationality.  Comolli was in charge of signing these players tho, and the fact that he essentially gave in to everybody when it came to the price of the players (Referring to Hendo's and Downing's price tag mainly.  At the time we signed Carroll I don't think there were many people complaining much about the price, just thrilled we got him).  Moneyball's principal was to get these undervalued players for cheap, and we were clearly paying too much for these players.  I still believe they are potentially good players, they're just having trouble adjusting to the new squad.  I remember when the season first started Downing was looking like our best signing bar Suarez, and look where he's at now.  The simple fact is that Comolli didn't properly follow the plan, so he was sacked.

However, like ACe said earlier it was Kenny who was picking the lineup, and Kenny who put himself out there with the media.  Kenny has made plenty of mistakes this season.  I believe he deserves another season as well, but he needs to stop with some of the issues he's had this year or it will be him who goes next unfortunately.


Ethanr I think your memory may be a bit fuzzy on that one because I think if you go back and look at the old transfer deadline thread that went down while that deal was done there was not many of us who wern't a least sceptical and at worst angry that our club had threw such a colossal sum of money at Newcastle to buy what in all honesty was an unproven player on a decent run of form as though we had turned into Chelsea or City overnight. Don't get me wrong I think we were all impressed that FSG we willing to write the big cheques but questions were definitely raised about who we were cashing them on.
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Postby ethanr » Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:51 am

Haha you could very well be right..

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Postby alwayslfc » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:21 pm

It is very obvious and anyone with one brain cell working knows that FSG are not pleased with Kenny's league form. Kenny said he was responsible for all the players that Comolli signed and Comolli was fired because he obeyed Kenny's orders. So by logic, they should give Kenny the same treatment. Yes, they said Kenny's position is not under threat, but do you believe them? They said they were fully behind Hodgson just a few weeks before they sacked him. So these guys are just like politicians who say one thing and does another. They have to behave like politicians and have to be professional liars because if they said Kenny wouldn't be here be long, that would destabilise the morale of the fans and the club as a whole just before that vital semi final game wouldn't it?
My prediction would be this. If they can find someone whom they think can do a better job than Kenny in the summer, they will not hesitate to terminate him. If they cannot, I believe they will give Kenny another season or maybe until next Christmas. If Kenny's report card then is as bad as it is now, I’m sure Kenny won’t be here.
Kenny’s position will only be safe if he wins the FA cup and wins all of our remaining PL games and that is like asking for the sky. So IMO Kenny won’t be long at the job.
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Postby eds » Mon Apr 23, 2012 4:08 am

COMOLLI FRUSTRATED BY 'BUY BRITISH' TRANSFER POLICY

Damien Comolli lost his job as Liverpool’s director of football last week as the club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, held him responsible for the failure of high profile, big-money signings such as Andy Carroll.

While Comolli publicly accepted his dismissal with good grace, saying he was “grateful” to have worked for Liverpool, friends of the Frenchman have told The Sweeper that he is privately “bitter and upset” about his departure.

Comolli feels that the American owners and manager Kenny Dalglish pushed him towards a transfer policy of targeting young British players even though he advised them that there was more value for money abroad.

For example, Comolli is believed to have been extremely interested in signing Juan Mata last summer from Valencia and received encouragement from the Spaniard’s representatives.

Dalglish was not so keen and the Reds instead signed an expensive compromise in Stewart Downing from Aston Villa for £20 million. The England winger is yet to score or provide an assist in the Premier League so far this season.

While Comolli accepts that he was happy to buy Downing, he believes that the restrictions placed upon him led to Liverpool signing average players who have underperformed this season as Dalglish’s side sit eighth in the league table.

There were a couple of success stories in Luis Suarez (£22.8m) and Jose Enrique (£6m) but Comolli was ultimately held accountable for the poor returns from Carroll (£35m), Downing (£20m), Jordan Henderson (£16m) and Charlie Adam (£7m).

The 49-year-old has now returned to France to spend time with his family - who never moved to Merseyside - and is keen for his next job to be with a Ligue 1 club due to the “family reasons” cited in the statement announcing his departure from Anfield.

- Greg Stobart | Northern Correspondent


And this article pretty much blows away any ridiculous "its mostly Comolli's fault" arguments that most of the happy clappers on this forum have been carrying on about the last few weeks. It's as clear as day now that Kenny was mainly responsible for bringing in the expensive British flops as both men have now confirmed this.

I think its fantastic that Kenny can potentially win us two more cups to add to our silverware but the league results just aren't acceptable. After wasting so much money at the start of this season and currently lying 8th on the table !?! 16 points adrift of Newcastle (how much was their budget again?) letting him continue next season would be sheer and utter madness.
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Postby metalhead » Mon Apr 23, 2012 6:41 am

This was taken from goal.com as well, with no actual quotes! Anyways I would be shocked if this is true, I don't think it is because the owners would have gotten rid of Kenny not Comolli and a lot of articles before point out to Comolli prioritizing English players
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Postby mart » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:32 am

metalhead » Mon Apr 23, 2012 5:41 am wrote:This was taken from goal.com as well, with no actual quotes! Anyways I would be shocked if this is true, I don't think it is because the owners would have gotten rid of Kenny not Comolli and a lot of articles before point out to Comolli prioritizing English players


Imo its unlikely that Comolli suddenly got the idea that british players are the best as soon as he joined liverpool. In his time at tottenham and Arsenal most of his targets have been from outside of britain. Its also very unlikely that Kenny didnt have a massive influence over who we signed.

Comolli could be blamed for accepting the high prices for these players, and its easier to sack comolli in the middle of a season than the manager.
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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:26 pm

We dont need to replace him , weve managed without one in the past , what are scouts for  ,they reccomend the player Kenny has a look done an dusted

When Geoff Twentman was here he gave the manger the nod , you see people like him and his scouts done there homework and were trusted by the manager, Thats what we need back at the club, Director of Football waste of a job and wage in my opinion
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Postby metalhead » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:30 pm

NANNY RED » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:26 pm wrote:We dont need to replace him , weve managed without one in the past , what are scouts for  ,they reccomend the player Kenny has a look done an dusted

When Geoff Twentman was here he gave the manger the nod , you see people like him and his scouts done there homework and were trusted by the manager, Thats what we need back at the club, Director of Football waste of a job and wage in my opinion


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Postby NANNY RED » Mon Apr 23, 2012 9:13 pm

metalhead » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:30 pm wrote:
NANNY RED » Mon Apr 23, 2012 7:26 pm wrote:We dont need to replace him , weve managed without one in the past , what are scouts for  ,they reccomend the player Kenny has a look done an dusted

When Geoff Twentman was here he gave the manger the nod , you see people like him and his scouts done there homework and were trusted by the manager, Thats what we need back at the club, Director of Football waste of a job and wage in my opinion


agreed nanny


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Postby fivecups » Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:16 am

And this article pretty much blows away any ridiculous "its mostly Comolli's fault" arguments that most of the happy clappers on this forum have been carrying on about the last few weeks. It's as clear as day now that Kenny was mainly responsible for bringing in the expensive British flops as both men have now confirmed this.


It's hardly definitive proof :). Source: Comolli himself!! He wasn't fired for no reason.
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Postby killerp » Tue Apr 24, 2012 7:24 am

eds » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:08 am wrote:[i]COMOLLI FRUSTRATED BY 'BUY BRITISH' TRANSFER POLICY

Damien Comolli lost his job as Liverpool’s director of football last week as the club’s owners, Fenway Sports Group, held him responsible for the failure of high profile, big-money signings such as Andy Carroll.

While Comolli publicly accepted his dismissal with good grace, saying he was “grateful” to have worked for Liverpool, friends of the Frenchman have told The Sweeper that he is privately “bitter and upset” about his departure.

Comolli feels that the American owners and manager Kenny Dalglish pushed him towards a transfer policy of targeting young British players even though he advised them that there was more value for money abroad.



Kenny has no shield for his decisions now regarding transfers. He admitted anyway that all the players signed were his choice, just maybe not the price we paid.
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Postby parchpea » Thu May 10, 2012 10:15 am

Comolli is on TalkSport for an hour with Keys and Gray this afternoon if anyones interested.
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