D___C » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:56 am wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:02 pm wrote:whats wrong with scoring with your head? i`d say at least half of the goals aldo scored in that late 80`s team were with his head and a lot of keegans goals came from headers too, just because your forward scores plenty of headers doesnt mean the team plays alehouse football. was john barnes an alehouse player for putting so many crosses in?
and andy carroll is good on the floor, granted when he first arrived his touch wasnt great but it has been improving all season and now the ball sticks to him like glue, with his back to goal and defenders all over him he probably retains possession better than suarez now.
carroll is playing well, a lot of neutrals and even the liverpool echo had him down as MoM on saturday, if he`s as $h1te as you make him out to be how come he put in a match winning performance in the biggest derby game in a quarter of a century? surely if he is as useless as you say he is he wouldnt have the ability to that.
I didnt say "hes sh'te"... its all relative. If we were Stoke i'd be praising him to the heavens,,, because he would be at our level. This is Liverpool.. big difference.
As i said in a previous post... peter crouch is a better player than andy carroll.. and not one person on here would dispute that. But was peter crouch good enough for Liverpool? Was peter crouch good enough to lead a Liverpool title challenging/winning side? No (and let me add again i liked crouch.. but he was not good enough.. for us)
i wouldnt swap carroll for crouch, and anyway by comparing carroll to crouch now your not comparing like for like, like centre halves target men centre forwards take years to develop and crouch is in his footballing prime where as carroll is nowhere near it yet.
it`s like comparing a young alan hansen to phil thompson, hansen went on to be better than thompson but it was thompson who baled the young hansen out in the european cup final when he did a distain like pass but thompson got back to clear it off the line.
a better comparison would be to see where crouch was at the same stage of his career, at andy`s age crouch was an unknown at QPR and that was even before crouch`s £5m (big money back then) move to villa which didnt go well for him. he was branded a joke and a donkey etc but surprise surprise with a few years experience under his belt he`s playing in CL finals and doing that robot dance after scoring goals for england.
i`d say crouch and carroll are about as good as each other at the moment but the diffence is crouch wont get any better and carroll will get a lot better, just like a centre half is a lot better at 29 than he is at 23.
carroll is better than crouch in the air and he`s a lot more aggressive than crouch, crouch never used his size well imo.
the best teams i ever saw at anfield (late 70`s and late 80`s) both had target men forwards leading the line, both of those sides played better footy than the early 80`s team where dalglish and rush lead the line, just because you have a target man up front doesnt mean you cant play great footy, not only liverpool i`ve seen loads of teams with big men up front who played good stuff, bobby robsons ipswich side with muhren and theissen pulling the strings in midfield was lauded for playing great footy but they had paul mariner up front, everton were great to watch in the 80`s and they had really classy players like trevor steven, kevin sheedy and gary lineker but they also had graeme sharpe who was a right handful for any defence.