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by **The Good Yank** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:02 am

Just got a couple of Manc friends to sign the petition. I forwarded the link through all my old email connections. So in return, don't anybody give :censored:

to Manc chick fans in Warrington. BTW they feel about us as we do about MUFC. But they signed it anyway .

by **The Good Yank** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 9:14 am

metalhead wrote:Should have told us before I guess

Yeah I hear ya.

by **tubby** » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:26 am

Signed

by **Greavesie** » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:51 pm

its reached the 100,000 mark people!!

well done everyone

by **dawson99** » Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:37 pm

From BBC News

"Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish and Newcastle United player Joey Barton used Twitter to urge people to sign the Home Office website petition."

Well done Barton, say what you like about him, but doing this puts him up in my estimation.

by **Igor Zidane** » Wed Aug 24, 2011 10:47 pm

Get f.uckin in there . :buttrock

THE Hillsborough Independent Panel can decide when all documents relating to the disaster can be released to the public, the government announced tonight.

The move comes days after an online petition demanding the government release all files relating to the stadium disaster broke the crucial 100,000 mark.

In a statement tonight the Cabinet Office said: "The Government is happy for all the papers, including Cabinet papers, to be released as soon as the Panel so decides, in consultation with the families.

"We expect them to be shared with the Hillsborough families first and then to the wider public."

The petition followed a ruling by the Information Commissioner Christopher Graham that details of Margaret Thatcher’s private cabinet discussions on the Hillsborough football disaster, in which 96 Liverpool FC fans died, should now be made public.

But the cabinet office had said it would appeal against the decision, arguing that all papers relating to the April 1989 tragedy should go to the Hillsborough Independent Panel, and the families of victims, before being put on wider release.

The new announcement has shifted responsibility for when the documents are released to the panel, which is being chaired by Bishop of Liverpool James Jones
Tonight a Hillsborough Independent Panel spokesman said:

“In keeping with the key principle of full public disclosure, the HIP welcomes the government’s commitment to publish all relevant documents to the panel. The response to the petition shows the strength of public feeling about the Hillsborough disaster and reinforces the importance of the panel’s work and its commitment to full disclosure.

“The panel is accessing and researching hundreds of thousands of documents and other materials relating to the context, circumstances and aftermath of the disaster. It will publish a comprehensive, independent and analytical report and establish a public archive. It is the intention of the Panel to publish all documents simultaneously. The Panel is grateful for the continuing support of the Hillsborough families in taking forward its unique and important work.”

The government also confirmed that the Backbench Business Committee in the House of Commons will consider whether the topic will be debated in the House of Commons when parliament returns in September.

The e-petition, which now has over 130,000 signatures will remain live and people can continue adding their signatures - you can add yours here (you must click the link in the return email to confirm)

by **Zidane** » Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:25 pm

First off I don't like to comment on issues concerning Hillsborough as I feel it's a bit disrespectful to people who actually went through it or know someone who did and I don't pretend to think I truly know or understand just how much this impacted the people of Liverpool since I'm not English, much less a scouser, but I am happy that things are moving in the right direction for once.

by **Igor Zidane** » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:06 am

Zidane wrote:First off I don't like to comment on issues concerning Hillsborough as I feel it's a bit disrespectful to people who actually went through it or know someone who did and I don't pretend to think I truly know or understand just how much this impacted the people of Liverpool since I'm not English, much less a scouser, but I am happy that things are moving in the right direction for once.

It's not a scouse thing or an english thing mate it's an LFC thing . The best thing you can do is read up on the subject and you will be able to make informed comments . So many people who don't know the facts love to comment and love to stir the sh!t (not you mate ) . The more people that are educated on the subject the better and the more people we have to educate those who are ignorant . Don't be afraid or worried that your being disrespectful if you ask questions mate , as long as those questions are genuine you will always get an informed answer on here .

by **Gerrard30391** » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:29 am

Anyone see the double page spread in the daily mail yesterday? Worth a read. Pgs 26-27 I believe.

by **stmichael** » Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:54 pm

Fantastic news today:

Parliament will debate the release of the Hillsborough files for the first time in 13 years on Oct 17th in the Chamber.

About time to. A massive step in the right direction :buttrock

by **Igor Zidane** » Fri Sep 16, 2011 11:45 pm

Artical from Brian Reade

Do we know who the Tory MP is who colluded with the police federation?

A few years ago I asked Trevor Hicks if he thought he’d ever establish the truth about why he lost his two beautiful teenage daughters that day.

He told me he already had. He was in no doubt that they died through police incompetence, inadequate safety procedures, a non-existant emergency service response and a culture that had allowed society to view all football fans as dangerous scum and stick them in metal cages.

He sought another truth. Why the Establishment had wriggled out of all blame, smeared the fans as killers, lied about their actions and refused to take any responsibility for the deaths, thus denying the deceased justice and the bereaved closure.

And he said if he could be granted one wish before he died it would be to find out what was said between Margaret Thatcher and police chiefs when she visited the Leppings Lane terrace the day after the disaster.

Because someone in high places had told him that Thatcher decided it was imperative that the police were exonerated. That the consequences for a force she treated almost as her private army, would be immense if (as Lord Justice Taylor’s report later demanded) they took the rap for 96 deaths in their care.

And so the cover-up began with her press adviser Bernard Ingham briefing the media that the disaster had been caused by a “tanked-up mob”.

Three days later the Thatcher-supporting Sun’s infamous front-page about fans urinating on the dead and stealing from their pockets appeared after collusion between the Police Federation and a Tory MP. The story went round the world that drunken fans killed their own. And the truth was buried.
So for Trevor Hicks, the Thatcher documents, which constitute the minutes from that Sheffield meeting and other correspondence with her ministers, could be the smoking gun that proves a conspiracy which went right to the top of the Tory government.

Which is why it’s no surprise that the current one is fighting to stop those secret papers being made public despite the Information Commissioner demanding it be done.

If, as the families suspect, the Tories have something to hide, we need to find out what it is. Which is why MPs will demand next month that every document relating to Thatcher’s role be released in an “unrestricted, uncensored and unredacted” form.

If they win the day it won’t just be a great day for the 96 but for football. Because hers was the government that caged fans, that thought about bringing in electric fences, moats and ID cards and would willingly have killed the game.

If they win I don’t care whether the documents go straight into the public domain or to the independent Hillsborough panel. As someone lucky enough to survive that day though, I do have one wish. That if those papers contain the smoking gun, the trigger is pulled in public before Thatcher dies.

Because I’ve waited a long time to see that bullet fly.

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by **neil** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:58 pm

Anne Williams appearing the One Show tonight.

by **Dalglish** » Wed Sep 28, 2011 12:52 am

October 17th - My Daughters 4th Birthday. She wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for my Best mate pulling me out of Pen 3 and saving my life.

Makes you think just what achievements, memories and futures the 96 could/would and should have had.

The debate need to be open, honest and just. As a society we can no longer allow MP's and Police to hide behind legal privilege.

For the 96.....Justice !

by **stmichael** » Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:45 pm

cannot stand either of them but keys/gray are having a hillsborough week on talksport this week between 10-1 so fair play to them for that. been hard but riveting listening so far from the likes of graham beecroft, john thompson of the echo and also a member of west yorkshire police who was working that day.

i suspect you will be able to listen to it all again on the website later at www.talksport.co.uk.

by **stmichael** » Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:38 am

part 1 of the talksport debate for those who may have missed it.

http://www.filesonic.com/file....011.mp3

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