tubby wrote:burjennio wrote:I dont want to hear the "they need time to gel" argument either because after watching players effortlessly fit into the Spurs and Man Utd teams today that have only recently been signed I dont think it holds up very well.
It's a good point and those who previously (including myself) spouted that argument are not being helped. Although if you look at the big players for the clubs around us they are pretty much the finished article, or at least quite far along in their 'progress timeline'. Mata, Young, Aguero, Silva ect.... Henderson and Carroll are both young so I don't think you can quite compare them in the same way.
metalhead wrote:burjennio wrote:With Henderson I could see him developing but with the way we play football how does Carroll fit in? He was in Ledley Kings back pocket today in the aerial battle, hes not pacy, hes not technically gifted so doesnt move the ball around well either. I know it was a panic buy after the Torres situation and he was bought with the money we made from that deal but am I alone here in not being able to see how the big man really adds to our side? How can the team adapt to benefit him or vice versa?
Henderson was bought in the long term, I'm sure he will be a good player in a year or 2, but he isn't good enough to start right now. As for Carroll I thought he did ok keeping the ball and he had two good crosses at him that he couldn't get the best out of them. Plus he shifted to the right hand side when Skrtel got sent off! lol.
We still lack quality
burjennio wrote:lakes10 wrote:burjennio wrote:Today was one of the worst performances from a Liverpool side I can remember.
you need to see a doctor fast then.
Ok you're right we were unlucky and deserved at least a draw
tubby wrote:Have to admit it did resemble a game out of the Hodgsen era. Don't know what happened tbh. Ok we lost against Stoke but we played well. No midweek Euro games either. Wrong tactics maybe?
tubby wrote:I wonder if our policy of sticking to British is partly to do with our potential dilemma?
tubby wrote:I agree there isn't enough quality but in the cases of Henderson and Carroll I really think they need at least a full season to bed in.
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