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by **Greavesie** » Thu May 19, 2011 6:50 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
Waldo wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:i want Baines or Clichy, Marko Marin, Marc Albrighton, Connor Wickham or Carlos Vela, Shinji Kagawa and Subotic or Hummels.

That's like a christmas list mate

Carlos Vela wouldnt be on my list

Why the hell would we be looking at Carlos Vela ?!?

its Maxi on the drink again

by **ethanr** » Thu May 19, 2011 11:52 pm

tubby wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
ethanr wrote:
Greavesie wrote:going to have to be realistic, no European football at all. Don't think we can go toe to toe with a few teams in the league with regards to transfers. They said we'll be making 'smart' signings well let's hope they bloody well are

Spurs are huge competitors when it comes to signings and we may have well just given them a few signings today.

That's utter bollox.

Agreed. Our performances under Kenny (notably against the Mancs, Chelsea and Fulham will speak volumes).

And we already managed to get Suarez, one of the stars of the world cup so im sure we will get more. Besides, no Europa league means being able to seriously mount a challange for 4th or better.

But when Ashley Young says I want to win trophies, he wants to be in every competition possible. I'm not saying he won't come, but spurs have that slight edge on us. It's all about players realizing our potential and wanting to be here for the long haul. We are going after many players out of Europe, and they want to play in Europe. Spurs have that and we don't, simple as that. If you don't think it will at all affect the decisions on where they go, then you are sadly mistaken.

by **killerp** » Fri May 20, 2011 1:07 am

Benny The Noon wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
Waldo wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:i want Baines or Clichy, Marko Marin, Marc Albrighton, Connor Wickham or Carlos Vela, Shinji Kagawa and Subotic or Hummels.

That's like a christmas list mate

Carlos Vela wouldnt be on my list

Why the hell would we be looking at Carlos Vela ?!?

Carlos Vela looks like another babel

by **Kenny Kan** » Fri May 20, 2011 1:09 am

ethanr wrote:
tubby wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
ethanr wrote:
Greavesie wrote:going to have to be realistic, no European football at all. Don't think we can go toe to toe with a few teams in the league with regards to transfers. They said we'll be making 'smart' signings well let's hope they bloody well are

Spurs are huge competitors when it comes to signings and we may have well just given them a few signings today.

That's utter bollox.

Agreed. Our performances under Kenny (notably against the Mancs, Chelsea and Fulham will speak volumes).

And we already managed to get Suarez, one of the stars of the world cup so im sure we will get more. Besides, no Europa league means being able to seriously mount a challange for 4th or better.

But when Ashley Young says I want to win trophies, he wants to be in every competition possible. I'm not saying he won't come, but spurs have that slight edge on us. It's all about players realizing our potential and wanting to be here for the long haul. We are going after many players out of Europe, and they want to play in Europe. Spurs have that and we don't, simple as that. If you don't think it will at all affect the decisions on where they go, then you are sadly mistaken.

You really are taking an ''arrogant'' stance on this aren't you?

They may prefer to play in Europe of course, but not necessarily the Europa cup. If a CL team came in for a player we was looking at then yes, the CL could sway that player to join the club over us.

Tottenham in the Europa, over Liverpool FC. I may be sounding ''arrogant'' here but most would probably opt for LFC due to the tradition and history of the club alone. Never mind having Kenny Dalglish and new owners at the helm who are seeking to bring the 'glory days' back. If any player went to Spurs over Liverpool I Can only see it being for two reasons:

1. If Spurs offered the player a much more lucrative contract than we were offering.

2. Possibly the glitz of London lifestyle.

3. NOT the fact they're in the Europa league.

by **lakes10** » Fri May 20, 2011 1:15 am

HEARD TODAY THAT rAFA PICKED sHANE lONG AS A KID TO KEEP AN EYE ON over a year ago, good spot Rafa.

by **ethanr** » Fri May 20, 2011 1:53 am

Kenny Kan wrote:
ethanr wrote:
tubby wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
ethanr wrote:
Greavesie wrote:going to have to be realistic, no European football at all. Don't think we can go toe to toe with a few teams in the league with regards to transfers. They said we'll be making 'smart' signings well let's hope they bloody well are

Spurs are huge competitors when it comes to signings and we may have well just given them a few signings today.

That's utter bollox.

Agreed. Our performances under Kenny (notably against the Mancs, Chelsea and Fulham will speak volumes).

And we already managed to get Suarez, one of the stars of the world cup so im sure we will get more. Besides, no Europa league means being able to seriously mount a challange for 4th or better.

But when Ashley Young says I want to win trophies, he wants to be in every competition possible. I'm not saying he won't come, but spurs have that slight edge on us. It's all about players realizing our potential and wanting to be here for the long haul. We are going after many players out of Europe, and they want to play in Europe. Spurs have that and we don't, simple as that. If you don't think it will at all affect the decisions on where they go, then you are sadly mistaken.

You really are taking an ''arrogant'' stance on this aren't you?

They may prefer to play in Europe of course, but not necessarily the Europa cup. If a CL team came in for a player we was looking at then yes, the CL could sway that player to join the club over us.

Tottenham in the Europa, over Liverpool FC. I may be sounding ''arrogant'' here but most would probably opt for LFC due to the tradition and history of the club alone. Never mind having Kenny Dalglish and new owners at the helm who are seeking to bring the 'glory days' back. If any player went to Spurs over Liverpool I Can only see it being for two reasons:

1. If Spurs offered the player a much more lucrative contract than we were offering.

2. Possibly the glitz of London lifestyle.

3. NOT the fact they're in the Europa league.

Ok, and that's exactly what I've said... We want players to come to us because they want to play for Liverpool... We want those players to want to play for us because they see the project we are working on... But players are still intersted in Europe... Some of these players have had the time of their lives in el and they want that. THey want europe in general because they have never experienced it.

Spurs finished ahead of us this season and they always spend, every single summer. They are in Europe. To some players, this is showing signs of promise. They think that spurs are on the up, not Liverpool. How can you say that every player we will be going for wants to play for Liverpool and not spurs? For all you know there are 50 players we are going after that think spurs are on the up, not us.

You have just said that the only reason players will play for spurs is for more money or to live in London. As much as I believe that should be the case, that is an extremely boldly-stated bias opinion... You are assuming every player in the world naturally thinks LFC are on the up and will consistently finish over spurs for now on. I guarantee there are plenty who don't believe in what we are doing right now and feel that spurs are the safer choice if they want to consistently play in Europe..

You're telling me that my opinions are bull sh!t and acting like your own opinions are fact...?

Arrogance or ignorance... take your pick mate.

by **Zidane** » Fri May 20, 2011 1:57 am

Out of us and Spurs I don't see Young going to Spurs, now if Man U or Chelsea come after him well that's a different story. No way he goes to Spurs over us imo unless its for much higher wages. We're supposedly really going after Blaise Matuidi as well as Cahill and/or Jones. I also expect us to sign one quality wide player as well as another ST, rumor has it we're willing to pay the buyout clause for Aguero as well. I honestly don't know what is going to happen for sure but I would put my money on Young, Cahill/Jones and Adam more than likely being signed. I wonder if we would consider getting both Jones and Cahill at the expense of Agger.. unfortunately I think that's something we should really consider if the opportunity arises.

These are the players I keep hearing about in order from most likely to least.

LW/RW: Young, Mata, Hazard, Sanchez
CB: Cahill, Jones
CM: Adam, Matuidi, McCarthy
ST: Aguero.. no one else other than him
LB: Enrique, Cissokho, Clichy

by **Kenny Kan** » Fri May 20, 2011 2:32 am

ethanr wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
ethanr wrote:
tubby wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
ethanr wrote:
Greavesie wrote:going to have to be realistic, no European football at all. Don't think we can go toe to toe with a few teams in the league with regards to transfers. They said we'll be making 'smart' signings well let's hope they bloody well are

Spurs are huge competitors when it comes to signings and we may have well just given them a few signings today.

That's utter bollox.

Agreed. Our performances under Kenny (notably against the Mancs, Chelsea and Fulham will speak volumes).

And we already managed to get Suarez, one of the stars of the world cup so im sure we will get more. Besides, no Europa league means being able to seriously mount a challange for 4th or better.

But when Ashley Young says I want to win trophies, he wants to be in every competition possible. I'm not saying he won't come, but spurs have that slight edge on us. It's all about players realizing our potential and wanting to be here for the long haul. We are going after many players out of Europe, and they want to play in Europe. Spurs have that and we don't, simple as that. If you don't think it will at all affect the decisions on where they go, then you are sadly mistaken.

You really are taking an ''arrogant'' stance on this aren't you?

They may prefer to play in Europe of course, but not necessarily the Europa cup. If a CL team came in for a player we was looking at then yes, the CL could sway that player to join the club over us.

Tottenham in the Europa, over Liverpool FC. I may be sounding ''arrogant'' here but most would probably opt for LFC due to the tradition and history of the club alone. Never mind having Kenny Dalglish and new owners at the helm who are seeking to bring the 'glory days' back. If any player went to Spurs over Liverpool I Can only see it being for two reasons:

1. If Spurs offered the player a much more lucrative contract than we were offering.

2. Possibly the glitz of London lifestyle.

3. NOT the fact they're in the Europa league.

Ok, and that's exactly what I've said... We want players to come to us because they want to play for Liverpool... We want those players to want to play for us because they see the project we are working on... But players are still intersted in Europe... Some of these players have had the time of their lives in el and they want that. THey want europe in general because they have never experienced it.

Spurs finished ahead of us this season and they always spend, every single summer. They are in Europe. To some players, this is showing signs of promise. They think that spurs are on the up, not Liverpool. How can you say that every player we will be going for wants to play for Liverpool and not spurs? For all you know there are 50 players we are going after that think spurs are on the up, not us.

You have just said that the only reason players will play for spurs is for more money or to live in London. As much as I believe that should be the case, that is an extremely boldly-stated bias opinion... You are assuming every player in the world naturally thinks LFC are on the up and will consistently finish over spurs for now on. I guarantee there are plenty who don't believe in what we are doing right now and feel that spurs are the safer choice if they want to consistently play in Europe..

You're telling me that my opinions are bull sh!t and acting like your own opinions are fact...?

Arrogance or ignorance... take your pick mate.

F.uck me, you are hard work aren't you?

I don't know how many times Spurs and LFC battle to sign for a player solely between themselves.

However, your talking and assuming that your opinion is FACT when you speak on behalf of Ashley Young and others as your sitting there trying to tell me they'd pick Spurs over LFC because they are in the Europa cup. How do you know this exactly?

I'm not ''assuming every player in the world naturally wants to play for LFC'' but you are assuming every player wants to join Spurs because they are in the EC.

It doesn't always work like that in Association Football.

I guarantee there are plenty who don't believe in what we are doing right now and feel that spurs are the safer choice if they want to consistently play in Europe..

I love how you know how the masses think, Spurs lost a CL place this year. One they had the previous year, we finished 7th last and will finish higher.

by **ethanr** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:25 am

Now you're putting words in my mouth mate.

First off, all I said is Ashley Young wants to win trophies and players who want to win trophies often want to be in as many competitions as possible.

Secondly.. You said the only 2 reasons that any player would want to join spurs over Liverpool is because of cash or London... You said that... That is a fact. I only said that not everybody prefers Liverpool over spurs.

You are letting your bias opinion get in the way of realism... I'm trying to be realistic. In saying that no player will have their decision on where to go altered by that fact that spurs are in europe and we aren't... That's really stretching it.

I'm just saying that if we would have qualified for el, I really don't think, obviously other than the reasons you said, any player would want to join them over us. Now that they finished above us, it's another reason for them to join spurs.

You say we raised a spot and they dropped one, and yet they are still ahead of us. Not to mention they charged further into the champions league than we could in the europa league...

I'm looking at the big picture. I don't want to get myself hyped up to think we are going to sign everybody that we are going after, because we won't.

by **Kenny Kan** » Fri May 20, 2011 3:54 am

ethanr wrote:Now you're putting words in my mouth mate.

First off, all I said is Ashley Young wants to win trophies and players who want to win trophies often want to be in as many competitions as possible.

Secondly.. You said the only 2 reasons that any player would want to join spurs over Liverpool is because of cash or London... You said that... That is a fact. I only said that not everybody prefers Liverpool over spurs.

You are letting your bias opinion get in the way of realism... I'm trying to be realistic. In saying that no player will have their decision on where to go altered by that fact that spurs are in europe and we aren't... That's really stretching it.

I'm just saying that if we would have qualified for el, I really don't think, obviously other than the reasons you said, any player would want to join them over us. Now that they finished above us, it's another reason for them to join spurs.

You say we raised a spot and they dropped one, and yet they are still ahead of us. Not to mention they charged further into the champions league than we could in the europa league...

I'm looking at the big picture. I don't want to get myself hyped up to think we are going to sign everybody that we are going after, because we won't.

i honestly don't think you know what you're talking about.

I'm looking at the big picture. I don't want to get myself hyped up to think we are going to sign everybody that we are going after, because we won't.

Whatever your point is now? You stated Spurs being in the EC gives them the edge over us in signing players. It doesn't.

End of.

by **ethanr** » Fri May 20, 2011 4:05 am

Kenny Kan wrote:
ethanr wrote:Now you're putting words in my mouth mate.

First off, all I said is Ashley Young wants to win trophies and players who want to win trophies often want to be in as many competitions as possible.

Secondly.. You said the only 2 reasons that any player would want to join spurs over Liverpool is because of cash or London... You said that... That is a fact. I only said that not everybody prefers Liverpool over spurs.

You are letting your bias opinion get in the way of realism... I'm trying to be realistic. In saying that no player will have their decision on where to go altered by that fact that spurs are in europe and we aren't... That's really stretching it.

I'm just saying that if we would have qualified for el, I really don't think, obviously other than the reasons you said, any player would want to join them over us. Now that they finished above us, it's another reason for them to join spurs.

You say we raised a spot and they dropped one, and yet they are still ahead of us. Not to mention they charged further into the champions league than we could in the europa league...

I'm looking at the big picture. I don't want to get myself hyped up to think we are going to sign everybody that we are going after, because we won't.

i honestly don't think you know what you're talking about.

I'm looking at the big picture. I don't want to get myself hyped up to think we are going to sign everybody that we are going after, because we won't.

Whatever your point is now? You stated Spurs being in the EC gives them the edge over us in signing players. It doesn't.

End of.

I gave my opinion and you went off on my like I'm :censored:

mental.. Apparently you think your opinion is fact...

by **Reg** » Fri May 20, 2011 8:39 am

Liverpool don't need big overhaul in summer, says Clarke

Friday May 20 2011

Liverpool coach Steve Clarke believes suggestions the squad needs a major overhaul in the summer are wide of the mark.

Some reports have claimed the post-season clear-out could stretch into double figures, with a similar number coming in, but the Scot does not reckon it will require as much surgery as that.

Clarke has been a key figure in the team's turnaround since arriving in January with manager Kenny Dalglish. His influence has not gone unnoticed and the improvement has indicated that the players are not as bad as was implied in Roy Hodgson's disappointing six-month reign.

"We have a decent squad here, a lot of good players who have shown that for us," he said. "If we can find two or three players that can add to the squad then that is what we should do.

"If we can't find the right players to improve us at the right time then I think we have enough to keep us moving forward. We've also got the young players coming through -- that has been a big plus this season. If we can continue with the nucleus of the established players we have and keep adding one or two kids..."

Only defender Sotirios Kyrgiakos is out of contract this summer but Dalglish has bigger decisions to make in terms of a number of high-earning fringe players and several currently out on loan.

Owners Fenway Sports Group appear set to back the manager in the transfer market, having given him a three-year contract last week, but the more money the Reds boss can generate from sales the greater his options will be.

Dalglish's priorities are at least one winger, a left-back and a centre-back but arrivals for other positions are still a possibility.

Clarke is confident Liverpool will be able to mount a challenge for a Champions League spot next season.

"I think we have shown a good working relationship," Clarke said of the job he, Dalglish and assistant manager Sammy Lee have done in lifting the club from 12th to sixth.

"The club feels it is on an upward curve. If we can build on what we can achieve in the short spell things will be brighter in the future. I would have been happy (to be in Europa League contention) but when I came here I saw how achievable it was to get into the top six."

by **Waldo** » Fri May 20, 2011 9:27 am

Don't know why you are all debating the Ashley Young situation. As I understand a deal is in place with LFC that will see Jovanovic + £££ going the other way this summer.

by **Redman in wales** » Fri May 20, 2011 10:12 am

Waldo wrote:Don't know why you are all debating the Ashley Young situation. As I understand a deal is in place with LFC that will see Jovanovic + £££ going the other way this summer.

we'll all debating it until it becomes fact

no offence but all the "i've heard that it's a done deal"s and all the "a deal is in place" doesn't mean a thing until it actually happens and becomes official. Even if it were true, people can still u-turn.

it aint a done deal until he's holding an liverpool shirt with his name on it at anfield shaking hands with kenny.

by **metalhead** » Fri May 20, 2011 10:21 am

lakes10 wrote:HEARD TODAY THAT rAFA PICKED sHANE lONG AS A KID TO KEEP AN EYE ON over a year ago, good spot Rafa.

I don't know much about how good Shane Long is

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