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by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:39 pm

burjennio wrote:Im just gonna say it.

If I had to choose between Osama Bin Laden and Manchester Utd its Osama all the f*cking way

amen... mancs are the devil

by **burjennio** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:41 pm

metalhead wrote:
burjennio wrote:Im just gonna say it.

If I had to choose between Osama Bin Laden and Manchester Utd its Osama all the f*cking way

amen... mancs are the devil

MH, I just hate them sooooooooooooo much. How did a team so bad I think I could them by myself make it to the semi finals just to get steamrolled by the f*ckers reserve side.

Its made me sad :sniffle

by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:42 pm

7_Kewell wrote:-The Quran is written in Arabic and many Arabic words can have varying meanings. Just like the Bible...

Exactly! the arabic is very difficult and the words vary with meaning, I don't know why God made it so mysterious

maybe its a riddle

by **Kenny Kan** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:55 pm

And Bob, while you use ''Christian fundys'' taking the bible to extremes, I'm pretty sure you won't get passages like this in the bible - "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73). That is the difference, one ''holy'' book demands a group to go to war and deal rigorously with them, the other doesn't condone abortion but neither does it say wage war on the 'non-believers of life' i.e. Abortionists.

That's my point, one book incites hatred and violence towards non-believers, the other doesn't, and the other (bible) doesn't have 61% slurring hatred and violence towards another faith i.e. Muslims.

by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:58 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:And Bob, while you use ''Christian fundys'' taking the bible to extremes, I'm pretty sure you won't get passages like this in the bible - "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73). That is the difference, one ''holy'' book demands a group to go to war and deal rigorously with them, the other doesn't condone abortion but neither does it say wage war on the believers of abortion.

That's my point, one book incites hatred and violence towards non-believers, the other doesn't, and the other (bible) doesn't have 61% slurring hatred and violence towards another faith i.e. Muslims.

FFS man I already explained chapter 9 and it was all about

by **Kenny Kan** » Wed May 04, 2011 9:58 pm

metalhead wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:Certainly as the number of extremists tied to the Islamic faith who use the Koran as their moral and motivational starting point in carrying out extreme acts would also suggest otherwise.

Its because these extremists are not driven by moral codes that the Quran has set. These extremists use the Quran as an excuse to exercise their power on the weak and the illiterate.

Why would they kill their own people following the same religion?

Pretty valid excuses from the quotes we have seen though.

by **Kenny Kan** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:00 pm

metalhead wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:And Bob, while you use ''Christian fundys'' taking the bible to extremes, I'm pretty sure you won't get passages like this in the bible - "Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home." (Surah 9:73). That is the difference, one ''holy'' book demands a group to go to war and deal rigorously with them, the other doesn't condone abortion but neither does it say wage war on the believers of abortion.

That's my point, one book incites hatred and violence towards non-believers, the other doesn't, and the other (bible) doesn't have 61% slurring hatred and violence towards another faith i.e. Muslims.

FFS man I already explained chapter 9 and it was all about

You said the Koran doesn't have any chapters.

And that is how you (who appears to be) a moderate Muslim stands by his faith.

by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:03 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:Certainly as the number of extremists tied to the Islamic faith who use the Koran as their moral and motivational starting point in carrying out extreme acts would also suggest otherwise.

Its because these extremists are not driven by moral codes that the Quran has set. These extremists use the Quran as an excuse to exercise their power on the weak and the illiterate.

Why would they kill their own people following the same religion?

Pretty valid excuses from the quotes we have seen though.

then why would they kill other muslims?

by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:05 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:You said the Koran doesn't have any chapters.

And that is how you (who appears to be) a moderate Muslim stands by his faith.

then there is a difference between how a fanatic interprets the Quran and how a moderate muslim of the faith interprets it too right?

We cannot assume one side of the coin

by **Kenny Kan** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:08 pm

metalhead wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:Certainly as the number of extremists tied to the Islamic faith who use the Koran as their moral and motivational starting point in carrying out extreme acts would also suggest otherwise.

Its because these extremists are not driven by moral codes that the Quran has set. These extremists use the Quran as an excuse to exercise their power on the weak and the illiterate.

Why would they kill their own people following the same religion?

Pretty valid excuses from the quotes we have seen though.

then why would they kill other muslims?

"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)

AND/OR,

"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:12 pm

Kenny Kan wrote:"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)

Nothing is said about other Muslims voicing their opinion about the interpretation. According to the ''Tawba'' (aka chapter 9) there was an act of war. Al Qaeda are the aggressors in 9/11 and other bombings.

by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:21 pm

nicked this from ''tubby...yes bav

'' from RAWK

by **Greavesie** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:22 pm

nickin that lad

by **metalhead** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:24 pm

nickin? english please

by **Kenny Kan** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:29 pm

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