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by **metalhead** » Tue May 03, 2011 8:29 am

I'm no Bin Ladin

I just want Bam to hear my side of the story and explanation, hopefully he and others understand

by **Kenny Kan** » Tue May 03, 2011 8:29 am

tubby wrote:Kenny Kan the problem is that all the fundamentalists and people looking for an agenda with Islam misinterpret the Koran. Not only that but kids are taught this way and grow up not knowing any better.

So the prophet Muhammad wasn't a warrior and led 77 offensive battles in which he slayed and gloried in the killing of non-believers and non-conformers? And condones the killing of non-Muslim believers?

If I'm wrong I'd be happy to listen i.e to MetalHead, obviously he interprets it moderately. But I believe it is still there in the Koran stating such acts.

Hence the reason of killing Bin Laden won't quell other orthodox Islamics, the followers of the faith are not listening to one man like him. As MH said they are on their own, splinter cells, separate entities, their guidance and belief comes from the Koran.

It's not like killing Adolf Hitler and the German army surrendering. The German's (most of followed Hitler's ideals) certain Islamics follow the Koran's ideals, not Bin Laden's.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue May 03, 2011 8:41 am

Kenny Kan wrote:
tubby wrote:Kenny Kan the problem is that all the fundamentalists and people looking for an agenda with Islam misinterpret the Koran. Not only that but kids are taught this way and grow up not knowing any better.

So the prophet Muhammad wasn't a warrior and led 77 offensive battles in which he slayed and gloried in the killing of non-believers and non-conformers? And condones the killing of non-Muslim believers?

If I'm wrong I'd be happy to listen i.e to MetalHead, obviously he interprets it moderately. But I believe it is still there in the Koran stating such acts.

Hence the reason of killing Bin Laden won't quell other orthodox Islamics, the followers of the faith are not listening to one man like him. As MH said they are on their own, splinter cells, separate entities, their guidance and belief comes from the Koran.

It's not like killing Adolf Hitler and the German army surrendering. The German's (most of followed Hitler's ideals) certain Islamics follow the Koran's ideals, not Bin Laden's.

I'd be interested in your views of Christianity.

Christianity led three crusades into Jerusalem that results in the massacres of many innocent men, women and children. Additionally it speaks of the destruction of the wicked. Wicked implying anyone who isn't a Christian believer.

Islam does have more elements of religious militancy that Chriostianity but the vast majority of Muslims do not interpret that as the norm for life.

The problem I see you falling into is stereotyping. You argue that because the Koran uses violent rhetoric and there have been instances of religious terrorism that ALL Muslims and and ALL of Islam must be extremists. Whereas that couldn't be further from the truth.

by **dawson99** » Tue May 03, 2011 8:42 am

Kenny Kan wrote:
tubby wrote:Kenny Kan the problem is that all the fundamentalists and people looking for an agenda with Islam misinterpret the Koran. Not only that but kids are taught this way and grow up not knowing any better.

So the prophet Muhammad wasn't a warrior and led 77 offensive battles in which he slayed and gloried in the killing of non-believers and non-conformers? And condones the killing of non-Muslim believers?

If I'm wrong I'd be happy to listen i.e to MetalHead, obviously he interprets it moderately. But I believe it is still there in the Koran stating such acts.

Hence the reason of killing Bin Laden won't quell other orthodox Islamics, the followers of the faith are not listening to one man like him. As MH said they are on their own, splinter cells, separate entities, their guidance and belief comes from the Koran.

It's not like killing Adolf Hitler and the German army surrendering. The German's (most of followed Hitler's ideals) certain Islamics follow the Koran's ideals, not Bin Laden's.

Kenny you ain't gonna win this one. You can't say ALL or anything are bad. There are good muslems, bad muslems, there are good catholics, bad catholics. Muhammed was a warrior, but so were half of the old testement.

Ask a Jehovahs witness what will happen to you even if you are a good person but are not with them, you will go to hell.

Go to a church of jesus christ sermon and see what they are like. I went to one, a woman had lost a baby about a day after giving b birth, she said the baby was in hell as it wasnt christened or whatever possibly. The whole sermon were cheering, as was she, it was mental.

I have muslem freinds who are the nicest people in the world. To band them all together is just naieve and uneducated. If you read the Koran (I'm no expert but know my stuff) then you will know there are different translations, as there are with all holy books.

According to the Westboro Baptist Church, God is a mean mofo, and that aint true...

by **neil** » Tue May 03, 2011 8:45 am

tubby wrote:

theyre watching south park there. I can feel the caption thread making a long overdue return

by **tubby** » Tue May 03, 2011 8:52 am

neil wrote:
tubby wrote:

theyre watching south park there. I can feel the caption thread making a long overdue return

I saw some good ones last night on twitter.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic....FLu4%3D

by **neil** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:12 am

tubby wrote:
neil wrote:
tubby wrote:

theyre watching south park there. I can feel the caption thread making a long overdue return

I saw some good ones last night on twitter.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic....FLu4%3D

links down bud

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by **dawson99** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:18 am

neil wrote:
tubby wrote:
neil wrote:
tubby wrote:

theyre watching south park there. I can feel the caption thread making a long overdue return

I saw some good ones last night on twitter.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic....FLu4%3D

links down bud

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Thats the best caption you could come up with?

by **tubby** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:18 am

Hmm clicks through ok when I clicked it. Found another though.

BTW I think the White House are gonna release some pics of him after the raid. There are also vids of him being tossed of the ship into the arabian sea as well as the actual video of the raid itself, which is how they were watching above. Doubt we will get the latter.

by **tubby** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:22 am

by **neil** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:24 am

dawson99 wrote:Thats the best caption you could come up with?

er no, see caption thread :eyebrow

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:38 am

dawson99 wrote:
Kenny Kan wrote:
tubby wrote:Kenny Kan the problem is that all the fundamentalists and people looking for an agenda with Islam misinterpret the Koran. Not only that but kids are taught this way and grow up not knowing any better.

So the prophet Muhammad wasn't a warrior and led 77 offensive battles in which he slayed and gloried in the killing of non-believers and non-conformers? And condones the killing of non-Muslim believers?

If I'm wrong I'd be happy to listen i.e to MetalHead, obviously he interprets it moderately. But I believe it is still there in the Koran stating such acts.

Hence the reason of killing Bin Laden won't quell other orthodox Islamics, the followers of the faith are not listening to one man like him. As MH said they are on their own, splinter cells, separate entities, their guidance and belief comes from the Koran.

It's not like killing Adolf Hitler and the German army surrendering. The German's (most of followed Hitler's ideals) certain Islamics follow the Koran's ideals, not Bin Laden's.

Kenny you ain't gonna win this one. You can't say ALL or anything are bad. There are good muslems, bad muslems, there are good catholics, bad catholics. Muhammed was a warrior, but so were half of the old testement.

Ask a Jehovahs witness what will happen to you even if you are a good person but are not with them, you will go to hell.

Go to a church of jesus christ sermon and see what they are like. I went to one, a woman had lost a baby about a day after giving b birth, she said the baby was in hell as it wasnt christened or whatever possibly. The whole sermon were cheering, as was she, it was mental.

I have muslem freinds who are the nicest people in the world. To band them all together is just naieve and uneducated. If you read the Koran (I'm no expert but know my stuff) then you will know there are different translations, as there are with all holy books.

According to the Westboro Baptist Church, God is a mean mofo, and that aint true...

Side note: Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe in hell. Although they do believe in the destruction of non-believers.

by **dawson99** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:44 am

President Bush tried and failed...

President clinton tried and failed...

President Obama tried and succeeded

The moral of this is, if you want someone dead, hire a black man

(And before anyone says anything, its funny, and the person who sentme this is black as well!!!)

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:49 am

dawson99 wrote:President Bush tried and failed...

President clinton tried and failed...

President Obama tried and succeeded

The moral of this is, if you want someone dead, hire a black man

(And before anyone says anything, its funny, and the person who sentme this is black as well!!!)

Dundalk already posted this on the previous page. you loser

by **dawson99** » Tue May 03, 2011 9:49 am

oh...lol..coolio!

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