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by **PabloMedina28** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:04 am

jacdaniel wrote:Has to be Kenny in charge next season. If its not and we lose our first 3 games next season... club would go back to being in turmoil and fans chanting for Kenny.

If if's and but's were candy and nuts...................................

by **brentd4** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:57 am

if kenny is there at the start of next season, and seriously why wudnt he be then, and dependin on transfers in the summer i onestly think, we wil win the league, so confident hahaha come on king kenny

by **Roger Red Hat** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:47 am

I'm putting a bet on LFC to win the league next season, as soon as I hear Kenny has got the job.

by **jacdaniel** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:00 pm

brentd4 wrote:if kenny is there at the start of next season, and seriously why wudnt he be then, and dependin on transfers in the summer i onestly think, we wil win the league, so confident hahaha come on king kenny

I really don't think so mate. Lets assume we sign a couple of players and get rid of a few... it will take at least a season for all the new players + existing players to gel and play as a team.

Kenny will have a huge job of finding a first 11 and even a formation to deploy etc. Good headache to have but it could take time for it all to come together.

Would like to see us finish in the top 4, with a trophy and hopefully kick on the following year.

by **Greavesie** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:30 pm

Dunno if this has been posted but

Commons Calls For Kenny Knighthood

Thirteen MPs have signed a Commons motion calling for Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish to be knighted.

The motion was tabled by Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram because of what he said was his "outstanding contribution" to British football.

Mr Rotheram raised the issue two weeks ago, on the 22nd anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster.

The motion said it would be a "fitting tribute" to the families of the 96 fans who were killed.
Earned respect

Dalglish was manager on 15 April 1989, when the Liverpool fans were crushed to death at an FA Cup semi-final.

He earned gratitude and respect for the way he represented the city and club in the aftermath of the tragedy.

Dalglish, now 60, helped ensure the club was represented at all of the fans' funerals and attended many of them in person.

He resigned as manager of the club in 1991, but returned in January, following the departure of Roy Hodgson.

Mr Rotheram was asked by families of those fans killed to put down an Early Day Motion requesting the honour.

The motion, to be published on Wednesday, has been signed by Labour MPs Derek Twigg; Dave Watts; Maria Eagle; Alison McGovern; Russell Brown; Bill Esterson; Stephen Twigg; Luciana Berger; Louise Ellman; Joe Benton and Clive Betts, as well as Conservative MP Therese Coffey, a Liverpool supporter.

by **Thommo's perm** » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:37 pm

Greavesie wrote:Dunno if this has been posted but

Commons Calls For Kenny Knighthood

Thirteen MPs have signed a Commons motion calling for Liverpool manager Kenny Dalglish to be knighted.

The motion was tabled by Liverpool Walton MP Steve Rotheram because of what he said was his "outstanding contribution" to British football.

Mr Rotheram raised the issue two weeks ago, on the 22nd anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster.

The motion said it would be a "fitting tribute" to the families of the 96 fans who were killed.
Earned respect

Dalglish was manager on 15 April 1989, when the Liverpool fans were crushed to death at an FA Cup semi-final.

He earned gratitude and respect for the way he represented the city and club in the aftermath of the tragedy.

Dalglish, now 60, helped ensure the club was represented at all of the fans' funerals and attended many of them in person.

He resigned as manager of the club in 1991, but returned in January, following the departure of Roy Hodgson.

Mr Rotheram was asked by families of those fans killed to put down an Early Day Motion requesting the honour.

The motion, to be published on Wednesday, has been signed by Labour MPs Derek Twigg; Dave Watts; Maria Eagle; Alison McGovern; Russell Brown; Bill Esterson; Stephen Twigg; Luciana Berger; Louise Ellman; Joe Benton and Clive Betts, as well as Conservative MP Therese Coffey, a Liverpool supporter.

What about George Howarth?
The Fu*king rat

by **maguskwt** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:49 am

Good article by Keegan:

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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns....cc=4716

There must be a good reason why John Henry and Fenway Sports Group have not officially tied Kenny Dalglish to a new contract at Liverpool, but I have no idea what it might be. I cannot see any reason to put any doubt whatsoever in the supporters' minds, or Kenny's mind for that matter. It is a done deal and it should be a case of finalising the small print and agreeing terms. After all, if they tried to replace Kenny now, they would have a riot on their hands.

I don't think anyone else could have had the transformative effect that Kenny has had on Liverpool since his return to the club in January. He arrived at Anfield at a time when Liverpool were going absolutely nowhere. The fans were getting a little bit despondent, understandably so, and, to a certain degree, the players were as well. Whilst I felt sorry for Roy Hodgson, when you go into a club like Liverpool you have to hit the ground running and he was unable to do that, for many reasons. You also have to understand the culture of the club.

Liverpool is an institution that is different to most clubs out there. Ever since Bill Shankly arrived at the end of 1959, Liverpool have always been more successful under the control of people who know the club, who have been brought through from within, who understand what Liverpool represents. Kenny played and managed there for so long and enjoyed some real success in both roles - as well as some horrific times of course with the events of Hillsborough.

You couldn't pick anyone on the planet with more insight than him into what makes the club tick. He has seen it from all dimensions, and from all emotions. When you arrive at a new job it usually takes time to understand the culture and get a grasp of the expectancy level, but Kenny already knew all of that. He knew the club implicitly, so from day one he could concentrate on the main thing: the team.

The result is that Liverpool now have an outside chance of getting into the Europa League, even if that particular form of European football is realistically not good enough for a club that has won five European Cups. Kenny will know that the club ultimately have bigger aspirations, but finishing in the top five would still represent a massive achievement this year given Liverpool's situation when he was parachuted in. It was expected that Kenny would steady the ship, of course, but when you consider the run he has taken them on, and the fact that only Manchester United have accrued more points in the same period, there is no doubt he has exceeded expectations.

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As impressive as Dalglish's run has been though, it will not camouflage the deeper truth.

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-- Kevin Keegan on Liverpool

As impressive as Dalglish's run has been though, it will not camouflage the deeper truth, and that is that Liverpool are well behind the top four at present. It says it all that if this year they qualify for a secondary European competition it will be treated as a success, whereas ten or 15 years ago that would have been seen as a failure. There is a way to go yet in the rejuvenation of Liverpool Football Club, but Kenny will know that more than most, and he will also know that wherever Liverpool finish this year, they still have the same underlying problems that existed prior to his arrival.

They do not have a strong enough squad, and at the moment, would not be the bookies' favourites to finish in a Champions League place next season. They have Manchester United, Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester City above them, along with Tottenham, who are their target at present and are now where Liverpool were three or four years ago. There is still no new ground which remains a pressing issue given the capacities enjoyed by the likes of Manchester United and Arsenal. Liverpool fans have had a lot of false dawns - just think of Gillett and Hicks with their spades in the ground - and on that particular structural issue, only time will tell.

It also remains to be seen whether Fenway Sports Group will back their manager with further funds in the summer. Yes they brought in Luis Suarez and Andy Carroll in January, but that was to replace a £50 million striker in Fernando Torres so will not be seen at Liverpool as a major step forward in terms of ambition, even though it was the right thing to do. It is still quite a task that Liverpool have ahead of them if they are to overtake two clubs and get into that top four.

As such, it is strange to think it is now 15 years since the 4-3 between Liverpool and my Newcastle side, when we lost to a last-gasp goal from Stan Collymore in one of the most famous Premier League games of all time. All those years ago, if you had said to fans of those two clubs you would have a game at this stage of the season and it would realistically mean little to either side, they would not have believed it.

by **parchpea** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 11:04 am

Dont agree we are well behind the top 4 really, I mean currently 7 points off City and thats not a big gap at all is it. Top 3 we are still short for sure and the table reflects that. Can only guess they havent awarded the contract to Dalglish to keep the players on their toes and not falling into a comfort zone last few games as its clear the lads want Kenny there next year. If we take out the early season disaster under Hodgson and focus on results since Torres left and Dagger and Clarke got a grip of things I would hazard a guess we are top 4 material from then on in but could be wrong. We will be in the top 4 mix next year Im certain of that.

by **Thommo's perm** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 12:12 pm

parchpea wrote:Dont agree we are well behind the top 4 really, I mean currently 7 points off City and thats not a big gap at all is it. Top 3 we are still short for sure and the table reflects that. Can only guess they havent awarded the contract to Dalglish to keep the players on their toes and not falling into a comfort zone last few games as its clear the lads want Kenny there next year. If we take out the early season disaster under Hodgson and focus on results since Torres left and Dagger and Clarke got a grip of things I would hazard a guess we are top 4 material from then on in but could be wrong. We will be in the top 4 mix next year Im certain of that.

Interesting that we have given each of the top four a kick in the balls at some point this season. They have not overwhelmed us or looked like they are miles in front of us to me.
The skanks have a chance of winning the double (if there is a God this wont happen) but I would put us against them any day of the week. Player for player are they that much better than us?
Methinks not
:no

by **dawson99** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 2:36 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:
parchpea wrote:Dont agree we are well behind the top 4 really, I mean currently 7 points off City and thats not a big gap at all is it. Top 3 we are still short for sure and the table reflects that. Can only guess they havent awarded the contract to Dalglish to keep the players on their toes and not falling into a comfort zone last few games as its clear the lads want Kenny there next year. If we take out the early season disaster under Hodgson and focus on results since Torres left and Dagger and Clarke got a grip of things I would hazard a guess we are top 4 material from then on in but could be wrong. We will be in the top 4 mix next year Im certain of that.

Interesting that we have given each of the top four a kick in the balls at some point this season. They have not overwhelmed us or looked like they are miles in front of us to me.
The skanks have a chance of winning the double (if there is a God this wont happen) but I would put us against them any day of the week. Player for player are they that much better than us?
Methinks not

football is about squads, not first 11s though, and in depth we are found to be lacking... this season

by **maguskwt** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:01 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:
parchpea wrote:Dont agree we are well behind the top 4 really, I mean currently 7 points off City and thats not a big gap at all is it. Top 3 we are still short for sure and the table reflects that. Can only guess they havent awarded the contract to Dalglish to keep the players on their toes and not falling into a comfort zone last few games as its clear the lads want Kenny there next year. If we take out the early season disaster under Hodgson and focus on results since Torres left and Dagger and Clarke got a grip of things I would hazard a guess we are top 4 material from then on in but could be wrong. We will be in the top 4 mix next year Im certain of that.

Interesting that we have given each of the top four a kick in the balls at some point this season. They have not overwhelmed us or looked like they are miles in front of us to me.
The skanks have a chance of winning the double (if there is a God this wont happen) but I would put us against them any day of the week. Player for player are they that much better than us?
Methinks not

football is about squads, not first 11s though, and in depth we are found to be lacking... this season

Precisely... when keegan meant we are behind top 4 I believe he meant in terms of squad strength... Tottenhem's squad is still alot stronger than ours... the reason we are performing this well recently is down to Kenny and the lads playing for the team and Kenny. I don't think we will do this well with most other managers. Weren't we in the relegation zone when Roy was in charge?

by **parchpea** » Sat Apr 30, 2011 5:07 pm

Spurs squad cannot be that much superior if you consider the league positions just now and the fact we could easily over take them in the coming weeks. We have suffered injuries as well, more than they have I imagine, our back line has been ripped apart with injury and so the depth has been tested to the full. They have names in their squad, lads they purchased, but our young kids have come in and stepped up to the mark, done a great job, and so overall Tottenham arent that fantastic. Lot of media hype around them with Redknapp and that but the Spurs boys are fading fast on the run in.

by **Zidane** » Sun May 01, 2011 8:27 pm

Spurs squad is better but the quality of their best players isn't as good as ours so they often don't look that good. Lots of good/decent players there but not many are top class.

by **Greavesie** » Sun May 01, 2011 8:35 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:
parchpea wrote:Dont agree we are well behind the top 4 really, I mean currently 7 points off City and thats not a big gap at all is it. Top 3 we are still short for sure and the table reflects that. Can only guess they havent awarded the contract to Dalglish to keep the players on their toes and not falling into a comfort zone last few games as its clear the lads want Kenny there next year. If we take out the early season disaster under Hodgson and focus on results since Torres left and Dagger and Clarke got a grip of things I would hazard a guess we are top 4 material from then on in but could be wrong. We will be in the top 4 mix next year Im certain of that.

Interesting that we have given each of the top four a kick in the balls at some point this season. They have not overwhelmed us or looked like they are miles in front of us to me.
The skanks have a chance of winning the double (if there is a God this wont happen) but I would put us against them any day of the week. Player for player are they that much better than us?
Methinks not

football is about squads, not first 11s though, and in depth we are found to be lacking... this season

I agree with this - I've expressed the same sentiments with regards to Joe Cole

I read the Keegan atricle this morning and tbh he sounded rather patronising towards our club, that's what I made of it anyway, I can just imagine him looking like a smug w@nker when he spoke those words

by **maguskwt** » Mon May 02, 2011 12:21 am

We climb to 5th... and finally looking like a team... what a turn around under Kenny...

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