North korea - Life in the worlds most secretive state

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Postby 82-1074641017 » Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:25 am

I know to a lot of people this will seem borng but did anyone watch Secrets of North Korea on BBC Four a couple of months back, it was interesting, the way North Korea boast over their chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction, well it seems to be more than a boast, they had interviews with agents and escapees of the isolated country and all of their stories matched.
Even Interogaters who are used to interviewing Iraqi and Afghan victims of torture can only cope with doing one interview a day with North Korean victims.
One man in the interview spent 17 years in a North Korean Gulag(Hitler style concentration camp) because his dad who he never met gave away North Koreas military secrets to the US many years ago, this man was beaten, starved and worked like a slave for 17 years before managing to escape and he fled to South Korea, in the Concentration Camp it is worse than any Iraqi prison, it is about 70 people in each room and they are treated like animals.
And certain prisoners get selected to get North Koreas Chemical weapons tested on them, they die in agony with either suffocation gases or gases that make you bleed violently and some of the drugs inflate prisoners like rats because they are so violently poisoned.
If you get sent to one of these camps you are there for life, they can send you there for attempting to leave North Korea, for criticising the Government or for even crying or showing interest in foreigners, and not only you get sent there but 5 generations of your family get sent because they allegedly share your guilt and you arent allowed any more children.
There was one woman who was sent to the camp with all of her family when she was 1 because her grandfather had fled North Korea, 24 years on after repeated rapes by prison guards, she was forced to abort 3 of her babies and she had lost both her legs because the beatings she had suffered and she was still forced to work as a slave.
There were also stories of Cannabalism in the Gulags as prisoners were starved so badly.
You think Thailand or Iraq have terrible prisons these must be the worst in the world, something needs to be done about this brainwashed government communist run state  :angry:

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Postby who the hell is diarra » Mon Oct 11, 2004 8:28 am

Didn't watch it but good post , Communism really did lead to the most terribble abuses of power, scary to think 1/2 the world was run like that at some point :angry:
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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:17 am

I saw recent documentary (not as in depth as the one roberts has mentioned) and the north korean interpreter assigned to the western film crew was absolutely shi tting herself .Every time they asked a question it was obvious that she was petrified of saying something that would maybe get her sent to one of those camps.
Don't know what can be done about it , I think they have the 2nd or 3rd largest standing army in the world . A change through military means is out of the question, it will have to come from within and probably quite slowly ,perhaps similar to china's gradual change.
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Postby 82-1074641017 » Mon Oct 11, 2004 10:45 am

woof woof ! wrote:I saw recent documentary (not as in depth as the one roberts has mentioned) and the north korean interpreter assigned to the western film crew was absolutely shi tting herself .Every time they asked a question it was obvious that she was petrified of saying something that would maybe get her sent to one of those camps.
Don't know what can be done about it , I think they have the 2nd or 3rd largest standing army in the world . A change through military means is out of the question, it will have to come from within and probably quite slowly ,perhaps similar to china's gradual change.

Yeah the government minders are always nervous looking after foreigners, incase they take any pictures or that of the country.
I heard of this one story it was a national scandal when a German Reporter visited Pyongyang in 1998 and the Minder allowed him to take pictures of a Tree and a Statue of Kim Il Sung anyway a North Korean Citizen reported it to the authorities and this Minder was sent to Prison.
In that country the citizens can be sent to Hard Labor Prison Camps for the tinyest things like talking to foreigners, listening to foreign broadcasts or questioning the governments policies

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Postby who the hell is diarra » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:08 am

They have the country in such a vice like grip it' is hard to see Asian Communism falling apart the way it's European counterpart did in the late 80's they were very much controlled by the Soviet military, while China n Korea's communist power base is from within their own country  :(
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Postby 82-1074641017 » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:13 am

Well now as well the North Koreans have stepped up their security on the borders to prevent its citizens escaping the country, and the Chinese Police have also invested a lot more money into capturing North Korean escapees.
When the Chinese capture a escapee they send them back to North Korea, If the escapees are pregnant women their babies are murdered incase they have foreign fathers and escapees are beaten and tortured to find out information on their activities in China and who they have been in contact with, if the authorities find out it is just Chinese they can usually expect a jail sentence for about 2-3 years but if the authorities find out the escapees have been in contact with any South Koreans or Christian groups they are sentenced to live in a Concentration Camp without a return to society

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Postby stmichael » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:15 am

what's happening in north korea is terrible. :(

they should stick to playing ping pong. :)
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Postby who the hell is diarra » Mon Oct 11, 2004 11:26 am

Now that s just a stereotype :)
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Postby 82-1074641017 » Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:14 pm

What is bad, all prisoners dont even get a trial, most are locked up for long periods for minor offences, or because of their family history or some get jailed without even ever knowing why

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