In january window - Where do we strengthen?

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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:36 pm

metalhead wrote:Charlie Adam would be a very good signing

he would be an excellent signing.
he has had some impact in this league already and his ability far outweighs that of lucas or poulsen and he would be an instant improvement in the starting 11.
adam in poulsen out and lucas on the bench!!
that way we could look like
                        adam.
                              merieles.
      kuyt/gerrard.                     cole.
                   
                   suarez/gerrard.
                                    torres.
for me stevie is most influential in cm but can do a good job on the right or in the hole depending on the suarez deal.
if cole gets his act together and we sign suarez then he goes into the hole and stevie on the right.even though we will lack natural width it would be so much of an improvement and one hell of an attacking line up.
bring it on!!
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:46 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Talk about irony -

OliverKay Twitter "Blackpool chairman criticises #LFC for "scuttling off to the press" over Adam rather than negotiating privately"

Wasn't it Holloway who started talking about Comolli's phone call to the Blackpool chairman whilst doing his press conference.

Hypocrites.

just seen that on the mail website.
that oyston guy is prob as outspoken as holloway and both probably think hypocrite lined up alongside jarzinho and tostao in the brazil 1970 squad.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport....ewsxml.
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Postby stmichael » Tue Jan 25, 2011 1:48 pm

red till i die!! wrote:he has had some impact in this league already and his ability far outweighs that of lucas or poulsen and he would be an instant improvement in the starting 11.
adam in poulsen out and lucas on the bench!!

he wouldn't be a replacement for lucas. completely different type of player.

if you had a midfield three of gerrard, merieles and adam tell me who's gonna do the defensive work there? they may all be better footballers than lucas but all of those three want to attack at every opportunity. it is not their natural game to defend.
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:53 pm

maybe not as a replacement for lucas but more as an an alternative option.
i did say that it was an attacking midfield and i dont see why we have to have a dm every game when a combination of gerrard merieles and adam would be more profiting regarding results.
lucas wasnt a dm either untill rafa made him one.
but to answer your question id say gerrard as he's the best tackler of the 3.
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Postby LiverpoolMadman » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:54 pm

"Holloway with his 14 million valuation of Charlie Adams." Holloway must be on drugs ... anyway I would spent at least 8-10M for Japan's Honda ...
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Postby worcester_red » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:55 pm

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red till i die!! wrote:he has had some impact in this league already and his ability far outweighs that of lucas or poulsen and he would be an instant improvement in the starting 11.
adam in poulsen out and lucas on the bench!!

he wouldn't be a replacement for lucas. completely different type of player.

if you had a midfield three of gerrard, merieles and adam tell me who's gonna do the defensive work there? they may all be better footballers than lucas but all of those three want to attack at every opportunity. it is not their natural game to defend.

Defend? I thought Lucas's main role was to give the opposition a fighting chance by giving away so many free kicks near our goal.  :D
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Postby stmichael » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:01 pm

i still don't consider lucas to be a defensive midfielder now to be honest. it's not his natural inclination anyway. he's just the most suited to the role out of the players we have by a country mile. poulsen isn't good enough full stop.

in the long term i still think we probably need a top class defensive midfielder but for now lucas is doing a more than adequate job and fully deserves to be one of the first names on the team sheet. there are far more important areas of the team that need addressing first.
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Postby worcester_red » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:33 pm

stmichael wrote:i still don't consider lucas to be a defensive midfielder now to be honest. it's not his natural inclination anyway. he's just the most suited to the role out of the players we have by a country mile. poulsen isn't good enough full stop.

in the long term i still think we probably need a top class defensive midfielder but for now lucas is doing a more than adequate job and fully deserves to be one of the first names on the team sheet. there are far more important areas of the team that need addressing first.

So you don't have an issue with him giving away freekick after freekick around our 16 yard box then?
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 25, 2011 3:41 pm

stmichael wrote:i still don't consider lucas to be a defensive midfielder now to be honest. it's not his natural inclination anyway. he's just the most suited to the role out of the players we have by a country mile. poulsen isn't good enough full stop.

in the long term i still think we probably need a top class defensive midfielder but for now lucas is doing a more than adequate job and fully deserves to be one of the first names on the team sheet. there are far more important areas of the team that need addressing first.

im not so sure we need a dm at all just better comunication between the cm pairing so that one acts as a holding player when the other pushes forward to link up with the strikers and vice versa.we have plenty of players already capable of breaking up play and with the likes of adam or gerrard to win it cleanly and turn it into an offense quickly is what we need.
in the long term i see us returning to a good pass and move style and a dm wont suit that.
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Postby ethanr » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:15 pm

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ethanr wrote:It's good to see that we aren't falling into their demands, but at the same time I am starting to feel a bit bad about the situations of both Adam and Suarez.  Like Holloway said, Liverpool do things the Liverpool way, with respect.  If those two bids are correct, then 12.7 for Suarez and 4 for Adam aren't exactly the most respectable bids.  For Adam, it's hard to say I suppose, but for Suarez we could have offered more.  I'm not saying it's a bad thing we've offered so low, but I do hope that our owners and Comolli realize that these players are worth a bit more than we are offering.

I'd say I'd be willing to go up to around 20 for Suarez and maybe 9 for Adam.  10 if he plays an incredible match against manure.

Y'know what?  I wish I was selling a car or a house to a lot of you lot.  You talk as if there's just bags of unlimited cash sitting around Anfield, waiting to be spent!!  What's all this "I'd be willing to go to X million pounds for this player and Y million for that one" craap?  What are you?  14?  It's just as well nobody at Liverpool Football Club will ever need your help on buying players.  These people are in NEGOTIATIONS.  You want them to just pay whatever price get's plucked out of thin air?  Moron.

The club is undergoing huge change.  We hope (and, I believe) for the better.  Buying top players and players with potential is a delicate negotiation process.  We don't want to be ripped off.  The market value for a lot of these players can be skewed way off by other clubs recognizing our need for quality in the side and the short-term time constraint on this window. 

And, FFS, give the scouts and people like Comolli a CHANCE. Football is a business and not one that's always easy to get right - but then I suppose you'd solve everything in a matter of weeks! That other poster is right about you.  You're a miserable, joyless fecker who jumps on everyone's back first chance.  Sure - we all got frustrated during Roy's 'reign' but buck up a bit fella.  We're moving in the right direction.  At the very least, wait til Feb 1st before you hang the entire scouting and management staff.

Well we all know we won't get either of them for the price being offered.  That's how much I was saying I'd be happy if the club spent on the players.  I didn't say he go offer this much.  I'm just saying that if they wanted more than that then they players are no longer worth it.
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:26 pm

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stmichael wrote:i still don't consider lucas to be a defensive midfielder now to be honest. it's not his natural inclination anyway. he's just the most suited to the role out of the players we have by a country mile. poulsen isn't good enough full stop.

in the long term i still think we probably need a top class defensive midfielder but for now lucas is doing a more than adequate job and fully deserves to be one of the first names on the team sheet. there are far more important areas of the team that need addressing first.

So you don't have an issue with him giving away freekick after freekick around our 16 yard box then?

To be fair on him he isn't Mascherano but he has been doing a great job of deputising. People forget how many fouls Mascherano gave away by tearing into players at 100mph but Lucas still has the stigma of his terrible seasons.

This season is different, he has grown and matured and is doing a decent job in the middle. Any fool can see his effort and commitment in games. Bear in mind he is still young, his development is outstanding considering how sh!t he was two seasons ago.

Rafa always said he never understood the abuse Lucas got because he was a great player, which must of meant his training performances were great but failed to deliver on matchdays, he clearly is a confidence player.
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Postby stmichael » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:28 pm

on the free kick issue, skrtel is by far the worst offender at giving away daft free kicks in and around the penalty area. the bloke's an accident waiting to happen most of the time.
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Postby worcester_red » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:29 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:
worcester_red wrote:
stmichael wrote:i still don't consider lucas to be a defensive midfielder now to be honest. it's not his natural inclination anyway. he's just the most suited to the role out of the players we have by a country mile. poulsen isn't good enough full stop.

in the long term i still think we probably need a top class defensive midfielder but for now lucas is doing a more than adequate job and fully deserves to be one of the first names on the team sheet. there are far more important areas of the team that need addressing first.

So you don't have an issue with him giving away freekick after freekick around our 16 yard box then?

To be fair on him he isn't Mascherano but he has been doing a great job of deputising. People forget how many fouls Mascherano gave away by tearing into players at 100mph but Lucas still has the stigma of his terrible seasons.

This season is different, he has grown and matured and is doing a decent job in the middle. Any fool can see his effort and commitment in games. Bear in mind he is still young, his development is outstanding considering how sh!t he was two seasons ago.

Rafa always said he never understood the abuse Lucas got because he was a great player, which must of meant his training performances were great but failed to deliver on matchdays, he clearly is a confidence player.

I'll agree he has been much much better after Rafa left but he still doesn't make the grade for me, he's an ok squad player though.
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Postby worcester_red » Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:31 pm

stmichael wrote:on the free kick issue, skrtel is by far the worst offender at giving away daft free kicks in and around the penalty area. the bloke's an accident waiting to happen most of the time.

not according to the official stats he isn't;

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport....cs.html
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Postby Calum » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:21 pm

I'm watching Charlie Adam put in another class performance against Manchester utd, and asking myself, "Why haven't we bought this player yet?" What are we waiting for? Why are we pussyfooting about? Let's get it sorted now! Or another club will buy him.
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