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Ben Patrick wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:just as an add on. Why would our ex players criticise for no apparant reason ?
Are they not just frustrated ?
Whelan gets slaughtered and won medal after medal even captaining us to trophies.
Barnes was here years and one of our best players in one of our best sides, winning medal after medal.
Aldridge ditto.

But if they criticise Rafa its not on ?

This is what i just dont get.

they can criticise all they want if they actually state facts and speak sense. whelan was criticising rafa when we'd just reached a second champions league final in three seasons ffs let alone the last 12 months when things went downhill. he also kept banging on about rafa having spent £300m which is a load of bull but we won't get into that argument again. in the end i just felt he was saying these things to gain publicity. lawrenson the same. gets paid a fortune as a pundit but you can tell he has no way near the same love for the club as some other ex-players.

it disappoints me even more when the likes of phil neal and alan kennedy come out and support the idea of a groundshare.

so is there any ex players that we are ok with 

Ian St John.

Top bloke 

burjennio wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:just as an add on. Why would our ex players criticise for no apparant reason ?
Are they not just frustrated ?
Whelan gets slaughtered and won medal after medal even captaining us to trophies.
Barnes was here years and one of our best players in one of our best sides, winning medal after medal.
Aldridge ditto.

But if they criticise Rafa its not on ?

This is what i just dont get.

they can criticise all they want if they actually state facts and speak sense. whelan was criticising rafa when we'd just reached a second champions league final in three seasons ffs let alone the last 12 months when things went downhill. he also kept banging on about rafa having spent £300m which is a load of bull but we won't get into that argument again. in the end i just felt he was saying these things to gain publicity. lawrenson the same. gets paid a fortune as a pundit but you can tell he has no way near the same love for the club as some other ex-players.

it disappoints me even more when the likes of phil neal and alan kennedy come out and support the idea of a groundshare.

so is there any ex players that we are ok with 

Ian St John.

Top bloke 

Ben Patrick wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:just as an add on. Why would our ex players criticise for no apparant reason ?
Are they not just frustrated ?
Whelan gets slaughtered and won medal after medal even captaining us to trophies.
Barnes was here years and one of our best players in one of our best sides, winning medal after medal.
Aldridge ditto.

But if they criticise Rafa its not on ?

This is what i just dont get.

they can criticise all they want if they actually state facts and speak sense. whelan was criticising rafa when we'd just reached a second champions league final in three seasons ffs let alone the last 12 months when things went downhill. he also kept banging on about rafa having spent £300m which is a load of bull but we won't get into that argument again. in the end i just felt he was saying these things to gain publicity. lawrenson the same. gets paid a fortune as a pundit but you can tell he has no way near the same love for the club as some other ex-players.

it disappoints me even more when the likes of phil neal and alan kennedy come out and support the idea of a groundshare.

so is there any ex players that we are ok with 

Thommo's perm wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:just as an add on. Why would our ex players criticise for no apparant reason ?
Are they not just frustrated ?
Whelan gets slaughtered and won medal after medal even captaining us to trophies.
Barnes was here years and one of our best players in one of our best sides, winning medal after medal.
Aldridge ditto.

But if they criticise Rafa its not on ?

This is what i just dont get.

they can criticise all they want if they actually state facts and speak sense. whelan was criticising rafa when we'd just reached a second champions league final in three seasons ffs let alone the last 12 months when things went downhill. he also kept banging on about rafa having spent £300m which is a load of bull but we won't get into that argument again. in the end i just felt he was saying these things to gain publicity. lawrenson the same. gets paid a fortune as a pundit but you can tell he has no way near the same love for the club as some other ex-players.

it disappoints me even more when the likes of phil neal and alan kennedy come out and support the idea of a groundshare.

so is there any ex players that we are ok with 

Xabi Alonso

Ben Patrick wrote:

Thommo's perm wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:just as an add on. Why would our ex players criticise for no apparant reason ?
Are they not just frustrated ?
Whelan gets slaughtered and won medal after medal even captaining us to trophies.
Barnes was here years and one of our best players in one of our best sides, winning medal after medal.
Aldridge ditto.

But if they criticise Rafa its not on ?

This is what i just dont get.

they can criticise all they want if they actually state facts and speak sense. whelan was criticising rafa when we'd just reached a second champions league final in three seasons ffs let alone the last 12 months when things went downhill. he also kept banging on about rafa having spent £300m which is a load of bull but we won't get into that argument again. in the end i just felt he was saying these things to gain publicity. lawrenson the same. gets paid a fortune as a pundit but you can tell he has no way near the same love for the club as some other ex-players.

it disappoints me even more when the likes of phil neal and alan kennedy come out and support the idea of a groundshare.

so is there any ex players that we are ok with 

Xabi Alonso

until he brings out his book slating rafa, then he will also be hated.

Not by me

roberto green wrote:Rafa is back on Merseyside and suddenly the forum is alive again!!!!

maypaxvobiscum wrote:your starting to post once again as though you've got verbal diarrhea.

Pot calling the kettle black    You must be missing your PM buddy Dawson.

I have never actually seen any actual football talk from you where you rationalize your opinion, you just basically re-hash what you read. Before replying might I suggest a PM to one of your buddies to see what they think   

maypaxvobiscum wrote:you've spent far too much time stalking

I perfer the term "actively following"

You should always follow anything you say with "that's what he said" 

Sabre wrote:BTW, I have a confession to make. I like Mourinho now. He's wound up half the cúnts I hate around here, and that always helps! 

naughty boy

Ben Patrick wrote:

Masch79 wrote:

Ben Patrick wrote:

Masch79 wrote:Yeah Ben, a respected writer wrote a balanced piece covering 2 sides of an arguement then just decided to stick a load of bollox in the middle! Make me laugh you lot, just cos something doesn't back your arguement & flatter your ego it's bollox ZZzzzzz

Nothing's black & white and it doesn't actually say he is completely blameless, just that it was always going to be difficult. I'm sure Rafa has made mistakes there just like all managers do.

Where is the balance ?

Its just poor excuses.

The part I quoted is a centrepice, supposedly undisputable common ground of a 2 sided argument, you need to read the link.

I dont need to read anything.

I read your post, that was not in any way balanced. It offered weak excuses for a manager that has took a side that have won the league 5 seasons in a row into struggling to make the europa league spots.

There is no excuse at all.