Red-er-Dare wrote:Benny The Noon wrote:Education is free to all - further education has to be paid for in some way - if the students don't pay for their fees who does in the end ?
Correct, further education should be paid for, but made available to everyone.
Gerrard30391 wrote:Red-er-Dare wrote:Benny The Noon wrote:Education is free to all - further education has to be paid for in some way - if the students don't pay for their fees who does in the end ?
Correct, further education should be paid for, but made available to everyone.
So, do you actually think tripling the tuition fees is going to make it accessible to all?
And Benny it will end up going back to the rich and the poor. The rich will be able to afford it and the poor will have it paid, leaving the middle class with feck all.
P.S. apologies for double post, i fecked up the quoting
SouthCoastShankly wrote:andy_g wrote:and because society as a whole wasn't responsible for the recession. therefore its virtually fúcking criminal that society as a whole should be constantly penalised to pay for it.
Andy your footballing posts are sound but that post wasbollox.
Firstly. The global recession was not solely our banker fault, in fact the vast majority of the recession was caused by the collapse of the US mortgage system. Our (and most other) were affected by investment into these markets.
Society SHOULD pay when times are bad because no one refuses the financial benefits when times are good. You can't have it both ways.
Whilst students are at university they make bugger all for the economy but as soon as they are earning they generate wealth if they are in employment. They also pay taxes to make contributions to run a society. This is how a western society works.
Don't like it, lump it. Or move.
Gerrard30391 wrote:Not that we see any of it. Ok there's porters, gardeners, cleaners etc. but we don't get any books, printing or any of the likes. I reckon you could go on all day fighting over a few quid, but if the government could've met a compromise somewhere between, the majority of students would've been happy.
The irony of this is, myself, and all of those cretins that were protesting aren't going to be affected as they are already into their course
Benny The Noon wrote:Gerrard30391 wrote:Not that we see any of it. Ok there's porters, gardeners, cleaners etc. but we don't get any books, printing or any of the likes. I reckon you could go on all day fighting over a few quid, but if the government could've met a compromise somewhere between, the majority of students would've been happy.
The irony of this is, myself, and all of those cretins that were protesting aren't going to be affected as they are already into their course
The country is in recession , thousands have lost their jobs , even more has had pay cuts , tax increases etc etc the people working are suffering and paying for financial mistakes and I'm afraid students wanting to go to uni will also have to take a hit - I know its harsh and it's not fair but its life . Nothing is free or given away anymore - this may well be the best plan for the future - who knows .
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