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by **Ben Patrick** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:08 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Who has Rafa even signed this season? Your all acting as if he has spent 300mil in 1 summer. Yes they are not playing well but you have to factor in that their rivals are a lot stronger this season too. You all seem to be glossing over that fact and only looking at this from 1 angle.

Funny you mate.

They won the treble last season and havent sold any key players.
They have Coutinho and Biabiany back who they did not last season who both look quality and are still struggling.
Who has strengthened so much ?
Every team in the league ?
6 wins from 15 is shocking whatever way you look at it.

It is a shocking run of results im not trying to shy away from that. But when you have a new manager in charge they will have their own ideas so naturally will want their own players. Is that really too much to ask? People said the same thing when woy arrived, let him bring in his own players ect...

And milan and Juve are stronger this season. Look at milan they have ibra and robinho up front. You really telling me Juve and Milan are not stronger than last season?

So 2 teams are stronger.
The rest of the league isnt.

If i am not mistaken Inter are not 3rd behind AC and Juve though. They are 6th behind both of them and also Lazio, Napoli and Palermo.

Rafa did not need to come in and try and change anything, and if he did try that would appear quite arrogant as the team he inherited had won everything.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:10 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Who has Rafa even signed this season? Your all acting as if he has spent 300mil in 1 summer. Yes they are not playing well but you have to factor in that their rivals are a lot stronger this season too. You all seem to be glossing over that fact and only looking at this from 1 angle.

Funny you mate.

They won the treble last season and havent sold any key players.
They have Coutinho and Biabiany back who they did not last season who both look quality and are still struggling.
Who has strengthened so much ?
Every team in the league ?
6 wins from 15 is shocking whatever way you look at it.

It is a shocking run of results im not trying to shy away from that. But when you have a new manager in charge they will have their own ideas so naturally will want their own players. Is that really too much to ask? People said the same thing when woy arrived, let him bring in his own players ect...

And milan and Juve are stronger this season. Look at milan they have ibra and robinho up front. You really telling me Juve and Milan are not stronger than last season?

So 2 teams are stronger.
The rest of the league isnt.

If i am not mistaken Inter are not 3rd behind AC and Juve though. They are 6th behind both of them and also Lazio, Napoli and Palermo.

Rafa did not need to come in and try and change anything, and if he did try that would appear quite arrogant as the team he inherited had won everything.

Every manager will change the way the team plays in accordance with their own ideas mate - if it isnt working with the players he has at Inter then he will have to adapt and either get different players in or change the sytle - what formation and tactics is he using there ?

by **dawson99** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:10 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Benny, it was all about serie a, until you brought your inbred body into teh confersation talking about respect and appreciation of past exploits. this was a serie a thread until you dragged your knuckles and sub 50 IQ into the conversation. Now your bff bav is helping im sure it'll be fine.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT SERIE A..

So can we talk about Rafa or not then ? You have been - yet your telling us to go to the appreciation thread to talk about him ? So why are you allowed to talk about Rafa in this thread yet others arent .

yeah we can talk about Rafa, but you cant hide behind your appreciation fest here, its about truth, and the fact is hes been fecking poor in Italy. the team has no life. the team is awful, its an embarressment to be honest. just a bit sad.

AC on the other hand look awesome this season, mre drive, players that actually wanna play

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:12 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Benny, it was all about serie a, until you brought your inbred body into teh confersation talking about respect and appreciation of past exploits. this was a serie a thread until you dragged your knuckles and sub 50 IQ into the conversation. Now your bff bav is helping im sure it'll be fine.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT SERIE A..

So can we talk about Rafa or not then ? You have been - yet your telling us to go to the appreciation thread to talk about him ? So why are you allowed to talk about Rafa in this thread yet others arent .

yeah we can talk about Rafa, but you cant hide behind your appreciation fest here, its about truth, and the fact is hes been fecking poor in Italy. the team has no life. the team is awful, its an embarressment to be honest. just a bit sad.

AC on the other hand look awesome this season, mre drive, players that actually wanna play

So we can only talk about Rafa if what we say suits your theory and your opinion ?

by **Ben Patrick** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:13 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Every manager will change the way the team plays in accordance with their own ideas mate - if it isnt working with the players he has at Inter then he will have to adapt and either get different players in or change the sytle - what formation and tactics is he using there ?

I am sure they do but they dont often go into a job where nothing really needs changing do they ?
If it aint broke dont fix it is the saying.

by **rocky29** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:16 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Christ - here arrives the person who single handed is turning each thread he posts into a joke . It's posters like you rocky are the reason why a number of people have stopped posting .

bullsh'it when you come on you derail whichever thread your on and start the same argument about rafa and then drag it on like now for the next 3 or 4 pages. Its been nice and peaceful last couple of days without you.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:18 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Every manager will change the way the team plays in accordance with their own ideas mate - if it isnt working with the players he has at Inter then he will have to adapt and either get different players in or change the sytle - what formation and tactics is he using there ?

I am sure they do but they dont often go into a job where nothing really needs changing do they ?
If it aint broke dont fix it is the saying.

I dont know what changes he has made - What are they ?

Just to elaborate on the injuries

Milito has played 3 times with 6 sub appearences

Sneidjer 10 times with 3 subs

Cambiasso 3 times

Lucio twice

Motta - none

Samuel - 3 - out for season

Stankovic 10 times

That is some big players who this season have been missing through injury .

by **tubby** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:18 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Benny, it was all about serie a, until you brought your inbred body into teh confersation talking about respect and appreciation of past exploits. this was a serie a thread until you dragged your knuckles and sub 50 IQ into the conversation. Now your bff bav is helping im sure it'll be fine.

THIS THREAD IS ABOUT SERIE A..

So can we talk about Rafa or not then ? You have been - yet your telling us to go to the appreciation thread to talk about him ? So why are you allowed to talk about Rafa in this thread yet others arent .

yeah we can talk about Rafa, but you cant hide behind your appreciation fest here, its about truth, and the fact is hes been fecking poor in Italy. the team has no life. the team is awful, its an embarressment to be honest. just a bit sad.

AC on the other hand look awesome this season, mre drive, players that actually wanna play

Better strikers than last season too. :;):

Let's not forget the raft of injuries now.

by **Benny The Noon** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:19 pm

rocky29 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Christ - here arrives the person who single handed is turning each thread he posts into a joke . It's posters like you rocky are the reason why a number of people have stopped posting .

bullsh'it when you come on you derail whichever thread your on and start the same argument about rafa and then drag it on like now for the next 3 or 4 pages. Its been nice and peaceful last couple of days without you.

Go and do your homework or tidy your bedroom - the grown ups are trying to talk at the moment .

by **rocky29** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:24 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
rocky29 wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Christ - here arrives the person who single handed is turning each thread he posts into a joke . It's posters like you rocky are the reason why a number of people have stopped posting .

bullsh'it when you come on you derail whichever thread your on and start the same argument about rafa and then drag it on like now for the next 3 or 4 pages. Its been nice and peaceful last couple of days without you.

Go and do your homework or tidy your bedroom - the grown ups are trying to talk at the moment .

You should change your name to BENNY THE MONA LISA

by **dawson99** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 3:25 pm

yeah, Inter should be top, they are awesome

AC and Juve are a different league. Roma look better as well, as do a few others... long way to go yet though

Napoli, Lazio..

have all these teams strengthened that much?

by **The Good Yank** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:18 pm

The funniest thing about this thread it that a person who has said numerous times that he hasn't watched Inter in Serie A this season is still defending/ making excuses for them. You really couldn't make it up.

by **burjennio** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:24 pm

I think I can put the last 3 pages of this thread in picture form:

by **rocky29** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 5:58 pm

put your bets on Juve. AC Milan will have a blip over christmas and juve have the best combo in seria A Aquilani and Quagliarella.

by **Ben Patrick** » Sun Dec 05, 2010 6:41 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Every manager will change the way the team plays in accordance with their own ideas mate - if it isnt working with the players he has at Inter then he will have to adapt and either get different players in or change the sytle - what formation and tactics is he using there ?

I am sure they do but they dont often go into a job where nothing really needs changing do they ?
If it aint broke dont fix it is the saying.

I dont know what changes he has made - What are they ?

Just to elaborate on the injuries

Milito has played 3 times with 6 sub appearences

Sneidjer 10 times with 3 subs

Cambiasso 3 times

Lucio twice

Motta - none

Samuel - 3 - out for season

Stankovic 10 times

That is some big players who this season have been missing through injury .

it wasnt me that said he changed things it was Bav i think using it as a defence for him.
I havent watched their games so i dont know but some have said he has tried to change the way they play, they play better football apparantly.With regards to the players you mentioned Sneijder has played 10 times, is that league appearances ?
If it is thats 2/3 of their games.
Cambiasso has been overlooked hasnt he ? Wasnt he meant to be unhappy ?
Every club has injuries as well, is the treble winning squad that poor that they have struggled so bad due to injuries ?
It would be interesting to see the quality of players that have come into the side because they must be terrible judging by their results and like position.

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