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by **aCe'** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:28 pm

hahahaha... gotta love the new excuses coming through... just brilliant !

by **Ciggy** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:33 pm

aCe' wrote:hahahaha... gotta love the new excuses coming through... just brilliant !

Why does what rafa does in Italy concern you? its got nothing to do with you has it?

You spend so much time slagging our ex manager off than you do with comments about the current one, we need to get our own house in order first and foremost, inter are in the CL and higher up the league than we are yet people are still taking the p!ss get real !!!

by **dawson99** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:38 pm

Ciggy wrote:
aCe' wrote:hahahaha... gotta love the new excuses coming through... just brilliant !

Why does what rafa does in Italy concern you? its got nothing to do with you has it?

You spend so much time slagging our ex manager off than you do with comments about the current one, we need to get our own house in order first and foremost, inter are in the CL and higher up the league than we are yet people are still taking the p!ss get real !!!

cigs, but you got to see, everything Rafa does is not his fault according to you, its as if you have been brainwiped and the whole of last season has completely left your mind.

Now its because his heart isnt in it... that is just fantastically dellusional.

And this is the Rafa thread, for Rafa talk, so we can't talk abuot other managers here right?

by **Ciggy** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:44 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
aCe' wrote:hahahaha... gotta love the new excuses coming through... just brilliant !

Why does what rafa does in Italy concern you? its got nothing to do with you has it?

You spend so much time slagging our ex manager off than you do with comments about the current one, we need to get our own house in order first and foremost, inter are in the CL and higher up the league than we are yet people are still taking the p!ss get real !!!

cigs, but you got to see, everything Rafa does is not his fault according to you, its as if you have been brainwiped and the whole of last season has completely left your mind.

Now its because his heart isnt in it... that is just fantastically dellusional.

And this is the Rafa thread, for Rafa talk, so we can't talk abuot other managers here right?

I say things as I see them daws I try to be as honest as I can all this topic is for is for memebers to wind each other up, I know all about Rafas faults ive stated them more than enough on here.

I believe he still holds our club in his heart a great deal, but when we are in such a shambles we dont have the right to take the p!ss out of Inter do we?

Why where none of these topics started about Houllier when he left? Why is there no topics about Houllier and Villa?

people still want to blame Rafa bet if we where up there fighting at the top of the league this topic wouldnt get a post in.

We are in no position to take the p!ss out of Rafa Benitez or Inter Milan when our club is a complete and utter laughing stock at the minute along with the results.

by **dawson99** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:46 pm

but Cigs, as you said yourself, you dont even watch Italian football :laugh:

IF anynoe shouldnt post on the Rafa thread, now hes at Inter, its surely those who don't watch Itaslian football

You are basing everything on heart pure and simple, nothing on actual ability by your own admission

by **tubby** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:48 pm

I think sometimes you can't give the answer in black and white. I still maintain that at the time Mourinho was there Inter's biggest rivals were weaker and still rebuiliding from the match fixing scandal. I mean Mancini won it x times on the trot and he is shabbite so for Mourinho to come in is like taking candy from a baby. If you look at their squad this season compared to in 2009 it also looks a lot stronger. Same goes for Juve.

by **jacdaniel** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:51 pm

Roy has taken on a team that is used to pressing all over the pitch and is trying to get us to play really deep, defensive, compact counter attacking football.

Rafa has taken on a team that is used to playing anti football, deep defending and trying to get them to press and attack a lot more.

Both are doing bad at the moment. Lets put the "I told you so's" on hold until someone has more ammunition

by **tubby** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:54 pm

jacdaniel wrote:Roy has taken on a team that is used to pressing all over the pitch and is trying to get us to play really deep, defensive, compact counter attacking football.

Rafa has taken on a team that is used to playing anti football, deep defending and trying to get them to press and attack a lot more.

Both are doing bad at the moment. Lets put the "I told you so's" on hold until someone has more ammunition

Give it until next weekend then.

by **Ciggy** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:55 pm

dawson99 wrote:IF anynoe shouldnt post on the Rafa thread, now hes at Inter, its surely those who don't watch Itaslian football

I dont watch it no, but Ill be fucked if i let complete and utter gobshites rip the p!ss out of a manager that won us the CL for keeps and the FA Cup, plus got us beating the biggest teams in europe.

I am still very fond of them, but he has gone now i know for 100% fact that his wife is home sick for her house on merseyside, and I will not stand by and let people buzz off him when my club is a fucking joke at the minute.

We are in no position to laugh at anyone, cant even take the p!ss out the mongrels cause we are just as bad as them !!!

by **dawson99** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:00 pm

Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:IF anynoe shouldnt post on the Rafa thread, now hes at Inter, its surely those who don't watch Itaslian football

I dont watch it no, but Ill be fucked if i let complete and utter gobshites rip the p!ss out of a manager that won us the CL for keeps and the FA Cup, plus got us beating the biggest teams in europe.

I am still very fond of them, but he has gone now i know for 100% fact that his wife is home sick for her house on merseyside, and I will not stand by and let people buzz off him when my club is a fucking joke at the minute.

We are in no position to laugh at anyone, cant even take the p!ss out the mongrels cause we are just as bad as them !!!

you can be fond of him, but if you dont watch Italian football how can you say anything about him as a manager?

Sorry, didn't realise this was a 'I like him so it doesnt matter about his job' type thing. I thought it was about him as a manager.. and people can say things, if they have seen how his team has played, and italian football in general...

LOL, this is getting more surreal by the minute

by **Ben Patrick** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:07 pm

bavlondon wrote:I think sometimes you can't give the answer in black and white. I still maintain that at the time Mourinho was there Inter's biggest rivals were weaker and still rebuiliding from the match fixing scandal. I mean Mancini won it x times on the trot and he is shabbite so for Mourinho to come in is like taking candy from a baby. If you look at their squad this season compared to in 2009 it also looks a lot stronger. Same goes for Juve.

Inter are not where they are in the league because Milan or Juve have improved.
They are where they are because their own results have been alot worse.

Its as simple as that really Bav.

by **Ciggy** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:18 pm

dawson99 wrote:you can be fond of him, but if you dont watch Italian football how can you say anything about him as a manager?

Sorry, didn't realise this was a 'I like him so it doesnt matter about his job' type thing. I thought it was about him as a manager.. and people can say things, if they have seen how his team has played, and italian football in general...

LOL, this is getting more surreal by the minute

This is going around in circles not argueing my point anymore its just not getting through.

I am still fond of Rafa, I wish him all the luck in the world, I wish no bad feelings towards him, Liverpool fans are in no position to take the p!ss out of Rafa or Inter when we have Roy hodgson as manager.
maybe your dizzy with virtigo with our lofty league position?

by **worcester_red** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:20 pm

Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:lol sorry cigs but at some point you do realize Rafa will have to blame for something. these excuses are hilarious but.. well they are just excuses. He was poor for us at the end, now hes just continuing his trend... its that simple

Its not excuses its what I have heard from the horses mouth, and I do believe his heart is still here and thats why he might be under performing in italy, and the players are just not responding to him because they know it aswell.

Anyway not argueing all day about Rafa if he has problems in italy its none of our buisness, Roy is our problem now.

Rafa will sort himself and his club out.

So you rate a manager that is being paid £3million a year yet performs badly just becuase he is homesick for Liverpool?? Give me strength.

Rafa is performing badly becuase he never was and never will be a top manager, he inherited a top squad and has managed to get a lot of them injured, alienated half the players and playing :censored:

football, seems like deja vu.

by **aCe'** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:26 pm

Ciggy wrote:
aCe' wrote:hahahaha... gotta love the new excuses coming through... just brilliant !

Why does what rafa does in Italy concern you? its got nothing to do with you has it?

You spend so much time slagging our ex manager off than you do with comments about the current one, we need to get our own house in order first and foremost, inter are in the CL and higher up the league than we are yet people are still taking the p!ss get real !!!

you've got to be fcking kidding me !
How does it concern me ? Well it doesnt but im interested in what he does and I wanna comment on it...
And you talk about me slagging off an ex-manager like i've committed an unforgivable sin... oh I guess we should all do what you do and post nonsense on our current manager...

So lets get this straight, you want me to not comment about how poorly Benitez is doing because he's our previous manager and should be respected for that, and instead you want me to follow your lead and concentrate on slagging off our current manager because he isnt doing much better...

yea not gonna happen... unbelievable really... Now watch your fellow Roy slagging, Benitez defending, single digit iq-ed buddies leap to your defense..

by **worcester_red** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:31 pm

Ciggy wrote:
dawson99 wrote:you can be fond of him, but if you dont watch Italian football how can you say anything about him as a manager?

Sorry, didn't realise this was a 'I like him so it doesnt matter about his job' type thing. I thought it was about him as a manager.. and people can say things, if they have seen how his team has played, and italian football in general...

LOL, this is getting more surreal by the minute

This is going around in circles not argueing my point anymore its just not getting through.

I am still fond of Rafa, I wish him all the luck in the world, I wish no bad feelings towards him, Liverpool fans are in no position to take the p!ss out of Rafa or Inter when we have Roy hodgson as manager.
maybe your dizzy with virtigo with our lofty league position?

Your point is coming across but it's a ridiculous statement. You are basically saying don't pick on Rafa, I love him. There are no facts in your argument at all, in fact you demonstrate that there can't be as you don't watch Italian football.

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