Jose mourinho. - Miracle or myth.

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Postby jacdaniel » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:32 am

37 year old Inzaghi terrorized Jose's team.  :D
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Postby Big Niall » Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:45 pm

madrid were poor. It is a big job for Jose and will take him a couple of years (It only took 2 to get Inter to be the best team in europe)

I don't think they have much of a chance this year but never write off Mourinho.
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Postby dawson99 » Fri Nov 05, 2010 5:40 pm

the guy is still massive pr!ck
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Postby burjennio » Sun Nov 07, 2010 9:56 pm

The guy is a complete tool but apparently he hasnt lost a league home game since 2002 which is the most ridiculous stat Ive ever heard.
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:43 pm

burjennio wrote:The guy is a complete tool but apparently he hasnt lost a league home game since 2002 which is the most ridiculous stat Ive ever heard.

8 years unbeaten at home in the league in Portugal,England,Italy,Spain and the word "myth" in the title.

Where is the thread "the myth that tiger woods is a great golfer"?
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Postby Ben Patrick » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:16 pm

Big Niall wrote:
burjennio wrote:The guy is a complete tool but apparently he hasnt lost a league home game since 2002 which is the most ridiculous stat Ive ever heard.

8 years unbeaten at home in the league in Portugal,England,Italy,Spain and the word "myth" in the title.

Where is the thread "the myth that tiger woods is a great golfer"?

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Postby Ring-of-Fire » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:48 pm

You can't argue that he's got a good record but what is he doing having his own topic on a Liverpool forum? I'll never forgive his disgraceful behaviour in the league cup final. He's a horrible man and I can't believe hes being mentioned in the same breath as Sir Bob.
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Postby tubby » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:52 pm

He's got a good record but everywhere he has been he has spend shedloads. Even at Porto he spent way more than their rivals. Ok he organises his teams well but if love to see him win things with a team with financial constraints. He probably wouldn't even take such a job.
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:00 pm

bavlondon wrote:He's got a good record but everywhere he has been he has spend shedloads. Even at Porto he spent way more than their rivals. Ok he organises his teams well but if love to see him win things with a team with financial constraints. He probably wouldn't even take such a job.

Little Porto didn't spend much compared to their european rivals to win the champions.

Also, his net spending at Inter wasn't that high and they hadn't won it in about 40 years.

8 years unbeaten at home in the league is just unbelievable - you have to give him that.
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Postby LFC2007 » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:35 pm

One thing I have noticed is that those who insisted on using Rafa's gross spend, use Mourinho's net spend as a measure of the opportunity he had to improve his Inter squad. People's biases are showing again. The truth of course is that neither measure tells the whole story and in the case of Mourinho's Inter that is particularly so because Barca inexplicably paid £40m + Eto'o for Ibrahimovic. Agreeing to that deal was most certainly nothing special on Mourinho's part - it was good fortune for him and Inter that Barca paid such a ludicrous amount and threw in one of the world's best strikers to sweeten the deal. This substantially obscures his "net spend" which if you choose to cite suggests he had limited opportunity to improve the squad, which isn't true. He spent good money, and he spent it well. How does that change the view of the job he did at Inter? Well, it proves that he didn't operate off a shoestring there, which really would be propagating a myth. Still, it doesn't substantially alter the view I have of his abilities, it just leaves open the question of how he might fair at a club like ours, or Spurs, where the squad he would inherit and the spending opportunity he would have would be comparitively limited, contrasting with his time at Chelsea, Inter and Real. I suspect he would do as good a job as any but it would be interesting to see him take on an ambitious project of a different kind to the ones he's used to.
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Postby tubby » Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:53 pm

Big Niall wrote:
bavlondon wrote:He's got a good record but everywhere he has been he has spend shedloads. Even at Porto he spent way more than their rivals. Ok he organises his teams well but if love to see him win things with a team with financial constraints. He probably wouldn't even take such a job.

Little Porto didn't spend much compared to their european rivals to win the champions.

Also, his net spending at Inter wasn't that high and they hadn't won it in about 40 years.

8 years unbeaten at home in the league is just unbelievable - you have to give him that.

Hang on a minute, I thought you don't rate the European Cup? So for Maureen you choose to use it to his advantage but for our former manager you choose not to recognise?  :laugh:

And they didn't need to spend that much at Inter. They already had a fairly decent squad plus as mentioned several times both their main rivals were either relegated or docked points.
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Postby bigmick » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:09 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
bavlondon wrote:He's got a good record but everywhere he has been he has spend shedloads. Even at Porto he spent way more than their rivals. Ok he organises his teams well but if love to see him win things with a team with financial constraints. He probably wouldn't even take such a job.

Little Porto didn't spend much compared to their european rivals to win the champions.

Also, his net spending at Inter wasn't that high and they hadn't won it in about 40 years.

8 years unbeaten at home in the league is just unbelievable - you have to give him that.

Hang on a minute, I thought you don't rate the European Cup? So for Maureen you choose to use it to his advantage but for our former manager you choose not to recognise?  :laugh:

And they didn't need to spend that much at Inter. They already had a fairly decent squad plus as mentioned several times both their main rivals were either relegated or docked points.

:D Sometimes it's best just to admit you were wrong in the first place about something and move on Bav. He's a top manager, probably the best there is, and if you said he wasn't from the outset then unfortunately events have proven you wrong mate.

Each time you try and offer up an excuse it looks ever more ridiculous.
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Postby tubby » Mon Nov 08, 2010 9:23 pm

bigmick wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
bavlondon wrote:He's got a good record but everywhere he has been he has spend shedloads. Even at Porto he spent way more than their rivals. Ok he organises his teams well but if love to see him win things with a team with financial constraints. He probably wouldn't even take such a job.

Little Porto didn't spend much compared to their european rivals to win the champions.

Also, his net spending at Inter wasn't that high and they hadn't won it in about 40 years.

8 years unbeaten at home in the league is just unbelievable - you have to give him that.

Hang on a minute, I thought you don't rate the European Cup? So for Maureen you choose to use it to his advantage but for our former manager you choose not to recognise?  :laugh:

And they didn't need to spend that much at Inter. They already had a fairly decent squad plus as mentioned several times both their main rivals were either relegated or docked points.

:D Sometimes it's best just to admit you were wrong in the first place about something and move on Bav. He's a top manager, probably the best there is, and if you said he wasn't from the outset then unfortunately events have proven you wrong mate.

Each time you try and offer up an excuse it looks ever more ridiculous.

Kind of like you did with our current manager?  :laugh: Give me a break mick, your the last one who should be riding the high horse.

He has won plenty so there is no disputing he is a top manager, but you can't deny he has been 'blessed' with plenty of wherever he has gone. He has practically had a blank cheque book at Chelsea and Madrid.

Given the money they have spent over the last 2 years it would be a disaster if they didn't win the league and CL.
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:57 pm

madrid spent hugely before he arrived, the team is  very unbalanced and it is a big task to get them back to the top.Madrid have been terrible in europe for many years and barca are clearly the best team in spain.

a big challenge for jose but I think he is up to it. Give him 2 or 3 years and he'll be a huge success.
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Postby Big Niall » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:58 pm

bavlondon wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
bavlondon wrote:He's got a good record but everywhere he has been he has spend shedloads. Even at Porto he spent way more than their rivals. Ok he organises his teams well but if love to see him win things with a team with financial constraints. He probably wouldn't even take such a job.

Little Porto didn't spend much compared to their european rivals to win the champions.

Also, his net spending at Inter wasn't that high and they hadn't won it in about 40 years.

8 years unbeaten at home in the league is just unbelievable - you have to give him that.

Hang on a minute, I thought you don't rate the European Cup? So for Maureen you choose to use it to his advantage but for our former manager you choose not to recognise?  :laugh:

And they didn't need to spend that much at Inter. They already had a fairly decent squad plus as mentioned several times both their main rivals were either relegated or docked points.

He has won the league 5 times in the last 6 years in 3 countries and not lost a home game in 8 years.

How's that LEAGUE record?
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