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by **stmichael** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:41 pm

I'm positive about this appointment. What happened at Spurs is largely irrelevant to me. I'll judge the guy on what he does at LFC.

If it ensures that the players bought benefits the club in the long term and it's not the manager signing who he likes then that can only be a good thing imo.

I wonder if Insua and Aquilani situations will reassessed now?

by **bunglemark2** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:45 pm

stmichael wrote:I'm positive about this appointment. What happened at Spurs is largely irrelevant to me. I'll judge the guy on what he does at LFC.

If it ensures that the players bought benefits the club in the long term and it's not the manager signing who he likes then that can only be a good thing imo.

I wonder if Insua and Aquilani situations will reassessed now?

TBH mate, I don't think you can discard the mixed success at Spudz - after all, his appointment at LFC is influenced by his success (mixed) at Spudz and elsewhere. So believing that his appointment is the panacea is a bit hopeful to say the least...personally I think it's a gamble, and I also think personally that what made this club great is and was, characters such as Shanks, Paisley, Fagan et al. And I think personally, that's what we need again...

As for Aquaman and Insua : i doubt the former will ever play at Anfield again (unless like Dossena, he plays for the opposition - in which case, I hope he performs like Dossena did tonight !); and as for Insua - is he not sold, or is he on loan ?

by **metalhead** » Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:49 pm

Reg wrote:Bear in mind, the owners are new to football and non US sport. Appointing Comolli is extremely smart, they've gone for a proven expert in his field with big club experience who'll provide them with a fully qualified analysis of the club current status and what needs to be done to get us back into the top four with a new team for a sustained run both doemstically and in europe.

The owners bring their own experience in sports ownership, management, assessment and statistical analysis. Who knows whether this will be relevant or bring success.

Rafa and Paco worked for owners who never tried to learn football. They thought appointing CP was the way forward, in that respect the new owners are far smarter.

We cant compare past methods and people with what we have today. Very soon we will have a completely different set up: new owners, director of football strategy, new manager and new players - and hopefully a new stadium.

The future is bright, very bright and we must support the new owners and not rush them. The decisions they make in the next 12, 24,36 months will affect the club for the next 20 years.

So far so good, I like it.

Good post mate, we are going through the right direction without any promises made by them, What I really like is that they are actually DOING something apart from just talking.

by **roysreds** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:14 am

sgs wrote:Dimitar Berbatov – £10.9m from Bayer Leverkusen, Didier Zokora – £8.2m from St Etienne, Kevin-Prince Boating – £5.4m from Hertha Berlin, Younes Kaboul – £8.2m from Auxerre, Gareth Bale – £10m from Southampton,, Heurelho Gomes – £7.8m from PSV Eindhoven, Tom Huddlestone – £2.5m from Derby County, Aaron Lennon – £1m from Leeds United, Luka Modric – £16.5m from Dinamo Zagreb.

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I hope he does well, I can't wait to see our first forays into the transfer market under NESV.

I still have a feeling they will bring in a marquee signing, I don't know why?

Good luck Damian
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by **Reg** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:51 am

Liverpool's victory over Napoli cannot mask the challenge facing Damien Comolli

Liverpool must hope Damien Comolli likes a challenge.

Little more than 24 hours after his appointment as the club’s director of football strategy, the Frenchman took his seat at Anfield for a first glimpse at the resources he has agreed to mould, amend and improve. Liverpool must really hope he likes a challenge.

If any evidence were needed that this is a club which has been run in the short-term on a long-term basis, it came in much of the first XI which manager Roy Hodgson chose to face a full-strength Napoli side.

Hodgson upbeat over Comolli's arrival There was the £18 million full-back, Glen Johnson, who appears to be regressing into the erratic performer judged not good enough for Chelsea. The Greek defender, Sotirios Kyrgiakos, who has become a cult hero on Merseyside for his unstinting commitment, but whose prominence despite his limitations says so much about Liverpool’s troubles.

Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen, £10 million of an impoverished club’s summer spending, both over 30, both nothing more than journeymen, both lavishly remunerated. Milan Jovanovic, a free transfer, bargain basement sort of buy, but one earning around £80,000 every week at the age of 29.

David Ngog and Jonjo Shelvey, youngsters bought for the future, raw and not bereft of promise, but hardly in the class of emerging stars like Javier Hernández, of Manchester United.

Though the demise of Liverpool’s first team is overstated – as the presence of Pepe Reina, Jamie Carragher, Raul Meireles and, later, match-winner Steven Gerrard testified – there is no question their squad is one mired in mediocrity. It is this which Comolli has been tasked with addressing.

He will be handed responsibility not to impose signings on the manager, but with guiding the club’s overall approach to the transfer market. He will be told to identify young talent, most likely from undervalued markets – his eyes will be cast more towards Germany than Spain – which will not require inflated contracts.

If Liverpool fans, nervous at the evident demise of the Boot Room tradition of the all-powerful manager supported by a trusted cabal, require a model of how this might work, they needed only to look at their opponents here. Six years ago Napoli were declared bankrupt and placed by the Italian FA in Serie C1, the equivalent of League One.

Thanks to the funds of president Aurelio De Laurentiis and, more relevantly, the intelligent recruitment of their then sporting director, Pierpaolo Marino, a club which has for so long laboured under the weight of its illustrious history finds itself reborn as force, boasting, in Marek Hamsik and Ezequiel Lavezzi, some of Europe’s top talent.

Comolli will appreciate the parallels. He evidently likes a challenge.

by **bigmick** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:09 am

It's a good article, although I don't see how Konchesky and Poulsen have cost 10 million quid unless we're back into the "add on" nonsense again.

This is the bit which sums it up for me " Though the demise of Liverpool’s first team is overstated – as the presence of Pepe Reina, Jamie Carragher, Raul Meireles and, later, match-winner Steven Gerrard testified – there is no question their squad is one mired in mediocrity. It is this which Comolli has been tasked with addressing."

That's our basic problem, we haven't got enough good players.

by **bunglemark2** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:13 am

The more accurate comment in that post, was the one about Hernandez. If you compare some of the players we have versus the class young players elsewhere at the top clubs (Kakuta at Chavski, Wilshere at the Ar.se....just two examples), you can't exactly picture Wenger, Ancelotti or Rubbernose coveting our young talent can you ?

I haven't seen any of the ressie games yet this season so I've no idea how promising or not any of them are, but I haven't heard or read anything to suggest we might see one or more of them make the step up..

by **bigmick** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:17 am

The fact that we haven't got a single youngster coming through who makes the mouth water is bitterly disappointing considering all the wonderkids we've signed. I know some are excited about this sixteen year old and I hope he makes it, but our return on investment even back through the Houllier days must surely be about the lowest in the league. Seemingly everyone apart from us produces the odd decent kid.

by **jacdaniel** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:33 am

Its very frustrating that our kids havent been breaking through. At the same time, I blame the managers for not playing them more often.

Insua looked okish but he was our only LB last season and he couldn't handle the pressure. Nemeth always looked good but the never got a shot even when we had no strikers. pacheco has always looked promising but seems to be totally alienated. (due to a bad performance at Northampton ive heard).

We need to give these kids time when we can afford to. (like last night and in the PL when we have a comfortable lead).

I really hope that we can give these kids time. And i hope that they don't get alienated for one bad performance.

by **Ben Patrick** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:43 am

bigmick wrote:The fact that we haven't got a single youngster coming through who makes the mouth water is bitterly disappointing considering all the wonderkids we've signed. I know some are excited about this sixteen year old and I hope he makes it, but our return on investment even back through the Houllier days must surely be about the lowest in the league. Seemingly everyone apart from us produces the odd decent kid.

Suso is the bees knees mick

by **ste123lfc** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:50 am

Does he have a brother called Charlie!! oh hang on thats corolli

by **stmichael** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:16 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:Suso is the bees knees mick

I'd like to see him feature on the bench and get a run if we're in a commanding position in games. As you say, the lad's pure quality and his build's no lesser than that of a young Fabregas or Jack Wilshire's current stature.

by **Ben Patrick** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:21 pm

stmichael wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:Suso is the bees knees mick

I'd like to see him feature on the bench and get a run if we're in a commanding position in games. As you say, the lad's pure quality and his build's no lesser than that of a young Fabregas or Jack Wilshire's current stature.

I seriously would like you suggested have him on the bench and give him 10 minutes here and there.
He is very young but so where the players you mentioned.

by **parchpea** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:30 pm

Teams crying out for pace, real speed merchants and athletes and thats what I would asking this fella to find for us. We have half decent technicians come tacklers but no dynamic runners on the books at all. Its half our problem to be honest as sides can push on without fear of a ball over the top hurting them or full backs scared of being run all over.

by **Reg** » Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:37 pm

Ball sence aka Rushie, KK, Jockey etc.. is what we need. Sprinters would be nice but all our best players have been naturals - Owen, Fowler, Macmanaman, Torres, Keegan, Tosh... the list goes on.

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