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by **bigmick** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:34 pm

What a strange thread. Why do some people assume that nobody realises the fact that either the owners are a pair of c...s or the fact that we are skint? We know. I think everyone knows.

As I remember, that was one of the chief reasons for appointing the manager which we did when we did. We realised and admitted the fact that we didn't have any money, so we sensibly appointed somebody who has a history of being relatively successful without needing mountains of it. Equally, we realised there was going to be much shenanighans behind the scenes so we appointed a manager who doesn't throw his toys out of the pram and make a mountain out of a molehill every five minutes.

So far, despite having to deal with all manner of nonsense, I think we've made the right choice and he continues to impress.

by **In and Out** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:42 pm

What a strange thread. Why do some people assume that nobody realises the fact that either the owners are a pair of c...s or the fact that we are skint? We know. I think everyone knows.

I've got no idea why people keep going on about it, it's fecking boring being told every five minutes people don't realise the situation the club is in blah blah blah when infact they do.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:08 pm

bigmick wrote:What a strange thread. Why do some people assume that nobody realises the fact that either the owners are a pair of c...s or the fact that we are skint? We know. I think everyone knows.

As I remember, that was one of the chief reasons for appointing the manager which we did when we did. We realised and admitted the fact that we didn't have any money, so we sensibly appointed somebody who has a history of being relatively successful without needing mountains of it. Equally, we realised there was going to be much shenanighans behind the scenes so we appointed a manager who doesn't throw his toys out of the pram and make a mountain out of a molehill every five minutes.

So far, despite having to deal with all manner of nonsense, I think we've made the right choice and he continues to impress.

When did Rafa ever throw his toys out of the pram ....I have seen more anger coming from Roy the last few days ..in point of fact he doesn't seem to show as much patience and humility as I earlier stated ...we have seen two sides to the manager in the last couple of weeks ........and one thing is apparent , he is certainly more audible than Benitez who tended to play his cards close to his chest rather than broadcast it to every conceivable form of media

I was impressed by Roy when he seemed calm and assured ,but his public fall out with Mascherano has soured my first impression and handed every fleet street scribe a hard on you couldn't hide with that cunts stetson ...
I suspect every fan would love to believe Liverpool's wounds are only skin deep and then subsequently sweep it under the proverbial carpet ,but some of us tend to fall on the side of realism

..... sorry if it spoils the mood a tad fella
Another thing must you always start a post stating how strange you find the content .....

by **metalhead** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:19 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:but his public fall out with Mascherano has soured my first impression and handed every fleet street scribe a hard on you couldn't hide with that cunts stetson ...

Hold on a second, I thought Roy handled it pretty well and he gave his solid sensible opinion about the matter.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:31 pm

metalhead wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:but his public fall out with Mascherano has soured my first impression and handed every fleet street scribe a hard on you couldn't hide with that cunts stetson ...

Hold on a second, I thought Roy handled it pretty well and he gave his solid sensible opinion about the matter.

What stating how selfish he deemed him to be

providing every back page of every newspaper with more than a hint of an exclusive snippet of scandal .... then no I fervently disagree mate

by **Penguins** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 5:42 pm

bigmick wrote:What a strange thread. Why do some people assume that nobody realises the fact that either the owners are a pair of c...s or the fact that we are skint? We know. I think everyone knows.

As I remember, that was one of the chief reasons for appointing the manager which we did when we did. We realised and admitted the fact that we didn't have any money, so we sensibly appointed somebody who has a history of being relatively successful without needing mountains of it. Equally, we realised there was going to be much shenanighans behind the scenes so we appointed a manager who doesn't throw his toys out of the pram and make a mountain out of a molehill every five minutes.

So far, despite having to deal with all manner of nonsense, I think we've made the right choice and he continues to impress.

Why?

Cause some still refuses to realise the connection to being skint=no trophies. Still ignorant people still talks about the title before the season starts saying the know we are skint but still think the title is possible. That is just horse**** and the I say you have lost the plot with that kind of opinion.

And most fans having that opinion also claims Rafa is the main culprit for the lack of trophies and not the negative net spend the last few years. Once again not understanding the connection; skint=no trophies....

We will win jack squat as long as we don't start acting like big club instead of pretending to be...

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:01 pm

Penguins wrote:
bigmick wrote:What a strange thread. Why do some people assume that nobody realises the fact that either the owners are a pair of c...s or the fact that we are skint? We know. I think everyone knows.

As I remember, that was one of the chief reasons for appointing the manager which we did when we did. We realised and admitted the fact that we didn't have any money, so we sensibly appointed somebody who has a history of being relatively successful without needing mountains of it. Equally, we realised there was going to be much shenanighans behind the scenes so we appointed a manager who doesn't throw his toys out of the pram and make a mountain out of a molehill every five minutes.

So far, despite having to deal with all manner of nonsense, I think we've made the right choice and he continues to impress.

Why?

Cause some still refuses to realise the connection to being skint=no trophies. Still ignorant people still talks about the title before the season starts saying the know we are skint but still think the title is possible. That is just horse**** and the I say you have lost the plot with that kind of opinion.

And most fans having that opinion also claims Rafa is the main culprit for the lack of trophies and not the negative net spend the last few years. Once again not understanding the connection; skint=no trophies....

We will win jack squat as long as we don't start acting like big club instead of pretending to be...

Mick was all for getting Mourinho and Hiddink at one stage. No one else would suit us. I don't think Hodgson was even up for debate. Now that we have Hodgson instead of "The Special One", I find it odd that he's now saying we have the right man afterall. I think, Mick, you're just glad we got shot of that fat Spanish bloke and replaced him with something "Engurlish".

It's going to be interesting when Roy starts to feel the pinch of managing this football club when the sh*t really starts to hit the fan when we start hitting that bumpy ride of our now obligatory mid-season blip.

by **Igor Zidane** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:02 pm

Or should that be BLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP

by **bigmick** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:06 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
Penguins wrote:
bigmick wrote:What a strange thread. Why do some people assume that nobody realises the fact that either the owners are a pair of c...s or the fact that we are skint? We know. I think everyone knows.

As I remember, that was one of the chief reasons for appointing the manager which we did when we did. We realised and admitted the fact that we didn't have any money, so we sensibly appointed somebody who has a history of being relatively successful without needing mountains of it. Equally, we realised there was going to be much shenanighans behind the scenes so we appointed a manager who doesn't throw his toys out of the pram and make a mountain out of a molehill every five minutes.

So far, despite having to deal with all manner of nonsense, I think we've made the right choice and he continues to impress.

Why?

Cause some still refuses to realise the connection to being skint=no trophies. Still ignorant people still talks about the title before the season starts saying the know we are skint but still think the title is possible. That is just horse**** and the I say you have lost the plot with that kind of opinion.

And most fans having that opinion also claims Rafa is the main culprit for the lack of trophies and not the negative net spend the last few years. Once again not understanding the connection; skint=no trophies....

We will win jack squat as long as we don't start acting like big club instead of pretending to be...

Mick was all for getting Mourinho and Hiddink at one stage. No one else would suit us. I don't think Hodgson was even up for debate. Now that we have Hodgson instead of "The Special One", I find it odd that he's now saying we have the right man afterall. I think, Mick, you're just glad we got shot of that fat Spanish bloke and replaced him with something "Engurlish".

It's going to be interesting when Roy starts to feel the pinch of managing this football club when the sh*t really starts to hit the fan when we start hitting that bumpy ride of our now obligatory mid-season blip.

Obviously I wanted Mourinho, he's the best coach in the World so who wouldn't? Hiddink I wouldn't have said no to, but he was never at the top of my list. As for the comment about getting someone "Engurlish" (I like that) how can that be if I supposedly wanted someone Portuguese and someone Dutch?

FWIW my first choice was Martin O Neill once Mourinho had flown, and Hodgson was my second. In truth though, whereever the manager is from and whatever his physique is, I firmly believe that any Liverpool manager should be given a fair chance by all fans. A fair chance by reckoning is at least three seasons. I'm confident that whatever happens, Roy will improve upon the shambles which he inherited.

by **Emerald Red** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:14 pm

bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
Penguins wrote:
bigmick wrote:What a strange thread. Why do some people assume that nobody realises the fact that either the owners are a pair of c...s or the fact that we are skint? We know. I think everyone knows.

As I remember, that was one of the chief reasons for appointing the manager which we did when we did. We realised and admitted the fact that we didn't have any money, so we sensibly appointed somebody who has a history of being relatively successful without needing mountains of it. Equally, we realised there was going to be much shenanighans behind the scenes so we appointed a manager who doesn't throw his toys out of the pram and make a mountain out of a molehill every five minutes.

So far, despite having to deal with all manner of nonsense, I think we've made the right choice and he continues to impress.

Why?

Cause some still refuses to realise the connection to being skint=no trophies. Still ignorant people still talks about the title before the season starts saying the know we are skint but still think the title is possible. That is just horse**** and the I say you have lost the plot with that kind of opinion.

And most fans having that opinion also claims Rafa is the main culprit for the lack of trophies and not the negative net spend the last few years. Once again not understanding the connection; skint=no trophies....

We will win jack squat as long as we don't start acting like big club instead of pretending to be...

Mick was all for getting Mourinho and Hiddink at one stage. No one else would suit us. I don't think Hodgson was even up for debate. Now that we have Hodgson instead of "The Special One", I find it odd that he's now saying we have the right man afterall. I think, Mick, you're just glad we got shot of that fat Spanish bloke and replaced him with something "Engurlish".

It's going to be interesting when Roy starts to feel the pinch of managing this football club when the sh*t really starts to hit the fan when we start hitting that bumpy ride of our now obligatory mid-season blip.

Obviously I wanted Mourinho, he's the best coach in the World so who wouldn't? Hiddink I wouldn't have said no to, but he was never at the top of my list. As for the comment about getting someone "Engurlish" (I like that) how can that be if I supposedly wanted someone Portuguese and someone Dutch?

FWIW my first choice was Martin O Neill once Mourinho had flown, and Hodgson was my second. In truth though, whereever the manager is from and whatever his physique is, I firmly believe that any Liverpool manager should be given a fair chance by all fans. A fair chance by reckoning is at least three seasons. I'm confident that whatever happens, Roy will improve upon the shambles which he inherited.

Went over your head, didn't it?

Last year, if you were told that Roy was going to be our manager for certain, would you have been pleased? Because I'd say you're a liar if you said you would have been.

BTW, Roy will be given a chance. Im certainly giving him a chance. But I'll make it clear that I'm not happy about the circumstances of his appointment. Will he be a success here? No. Why? It's the owners (innit)? See, it's easy to be sarcastic.

As for this shambles he's inherited, remind me how much he's been given to spend to correct this so called shambles? A shambles of a team that is basically the bulk of the side that got to a major European final, challenged for the title and got nearly got to another European final all in the same season. What a shambles.

by **bigmick** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:23 pm

Emerald Red wrote:Went over your head, didn't it?

Course it did fella, that must be it.

by **metalhead** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:34 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:What stating how selfish he deemed him to be providing every back page of every newspaper with more than a hint of an exclusive snippet of scandal .... then no I fervently disagree mate

He didn't call him selfish did he? the media did with their titles. He was putting selfish into a context in general with other players he experienced before. He was giving his own opinion, generally, on players that should honor their own contracts. Its a fact, I agree with him and it doesn't look like sour grapes to me. Mascherano, in fact, should honor his contract, that is what he is trying to convey.

I would like to ask you a question mate, how would other previous managers would have handled this situation?

by **Greavesie** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:42 pm

Isn't that why transfer fees exist tho? to compensate for the player not honoring his contract?

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:58 pm

metalhead wrote:I would like to ask you a question mate, how would other previous managers would have handled this situation?

Listen MH when Liverpool started to begin their search for a new man ..one of the prerequisites was that the man chosen would not air our dirty washing in public ..... in all honesty mate could you see Dalglish acting in the same manner

by **metalhead** » Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:00 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
metalhead wrote:I would like to ask you a question mate, how would other previous managers would have handled this situation?

Listen MH when Liverpool started to begin their search for a new man ..one of the prerequisites was that the man chosen would not air our dirty washing in public ..... in all honesty mate could you see Dalglish acting in the same manner

No, I wouldn't in this way, maybe in another way giving his message regarding how unprofessional players are these days.

Sorry mate, I don't think Roy has done any wrong here.

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