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by **Ciggy** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:10 am

In less than a week we have let two of our central midfielders leave for the amount of 40 million pound.
Replaced them with Poulson for 4 million.

Mascherano SOLD
Aqualini SOLD

FML :down:

Whats it going to take for people to wake up to the dire situation we are in?

by **fivecups** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:39 am

Ciggy wrote:In less than a week we have let two of our central midfielders leave for the amount of 40 million pound.
Replaced them with Poulson for 4 million.

Mascherano SOLD
Aqualini SOLD

FML

Whats it going to take for people to wake up to the dire situation we are in?

That's bullsh'it Lynds!

We haven't even done that well - Aquilani's only gone on loan

.

Just over a year ago:

Pepe, Arbeloa, Carra, Agger, Aurelio, Kuyt, Mascherano, Alonso, Yossi, Gerrard, Torres.

Disgrace, the whole thing.

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:42 am

You could argue that Poulsen is as good as Sissoko. In fact I don't even know why Sissoko is on the list?

As for Aquilani - part of the best midfield on the planet? Let's get real here, he barely played, even when fit, under Rafa.

Alonso and Mascherano both wanted out under Rafa also. In fact, directly blame Rafa for Alonso's exit.

Nice to see balance in your posts as always Ciggy

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:44 am

I'm guessing the post had more to do with our owners and lack of investment as opposed to anything to do with managers .

by **Ciggy** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:46 am

Im so feckin angry right now the board and Roy knew Mascherano was leaving how the hell did they agree to let Aqualini go to Juve?

Tom Hicks: Liverpools in for a big summer.......

Is that right Tom? By selling our two central midfielders and replacing them with Lucas brazilian Leiva and Christian Poulson. Recouping 36 million in the process.

Christian Nemeth and his agent spoke yesterday.

Nemeths agent: "Liverpool told us that it is not the question of quality but a financial decision. As it is with others out this season."

Nemeth:
When I went back in the summer the club leaders told me they had financial problems, they needed money urgently, wanted decrease expenditure had to reduce the squad.

No but everythings ok cause we got Joe Cole on a free and we have an english manager now.

by **Bermenstein** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:53 am

It is lookinhg increasingly gloomy and a return to the bad old 90's looks inevitable.
Hopefully it won't go completely Pete Tong.

All we need now is for Kenny Huang to say he is buying Everton

by **Ciggy** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:53 am

Benny The Noon wrote:I'm guessing the post had more to do with our owners and lack of investment as opposed to anything to do with managers .

Hes on ignore along with his sheep, I guess it was another dig at me about "good old uncle Roy?" When quite clearly im talking about the owners and the liverpool board. And if Roy had anything about him he would resign immediatley !!!

Feck all to spend and players getting shipped out left right and center.

by **fivecups** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:53 am

SouthCoastShankly wrote:You could argue that Poulsen is as good as Sissoko. In fact I don't even know why Sissoko is on the list?

As for Aquilani - part of the best midfield on the planet? Let's get real here, he barely played, even when fit, under Rafa.

Alonso and Mascherano both wanted out under Rafa also. In fact, directly blame Rafa for Alonso's exit.

Nice to see balance in your posts as always Ciggy

You could argue about the decline of the club if your a blind idiot.

Otherwise you should be fully aware of what's happening.

by **fivecups** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:01 am

The systematic destruction of our squad:

Transfers since Masch was bought:

IN

Javier Mascherano Media Sports Investment £18,600,000* 29.02.2008
Philipp Degen Dortmund Free* 03.07.2008
Andrea Dossena Udinese £7,000,000 04.07.2008
Diego Cavalieri Palmeiras £3,500,000 11.07.2008
David N'Gog Paris St Germain £1,500,000 24.07.2008
Robbie Keane Tottenham £19,000,000 28.07.2008
Albert Riera Espanyol £8,000,000 31.08.2008
Glen Johnson Portsmouth £17,500,000 26.06.2009
Alberto Aquilani AS Roma £17,100,000* 07.08.2009
Sotirios Kyrgiakos AEK Athens £2,000,000 21.08.2009
Daniel Ayala Sevilla £160,000 17.09.2009
Maxi Rodriguez Atletico Madrid Free 12.01.2010
Jonjo Shelvey Charlton £1,700,000* 10.05.2010
Milan Jovanovic' Standard Liege Free* 08.07.2010
Joe Cole Free Transfer Free 21.07.2010
Danny Wilson Rangers £2,000,000* 21.07.2010
Fábio Aurélio Free Transfer Free 31.07.2010
Christian Poulsen Juventus £4,550,000* 11.08.2010
Brad Jones Middlesbrough £2,300,000 18.08.2010
£60,960,000

OUT

John Arne Riise AS Roma £4,000,000 01.07.2008
Harry Kewell Free Transfer Free 01.07.2008
Anthony Le Tallec Le Mans Undisclosed 02.07.2008
Peter Crouch Portsmouth £11,000,000* 11.07.2008
Danny Guthrie Newcastle £2,250,000 14.07.2008
Scott Carson WBA £3,250,000* 18.07.2008
Steve Finnan Espanyol Undisclosed* 31.08.2008
Robbie Keane Tottenham £16,000,000* 02.02.2009
Jack Hobbs Leicester Undisclosed 24.04.2009
Paul Anderson Nottm For £250,000 30.06.2009
Astrit Ajdarevic Leicester Free 30.06.2009
Sebastian Leto Panathinaikos £3,000,000 01.07.2009
Jermaine Pennant Real Zaragoza Free* 01.07.2009
Miki Roque Unknown Free 01.07.2009
Álvaro Arbeloa Real Madrid £3,500,000 30.07.2009
Xabi Alonso Real Madrid £30,000,000 05.08.2009
Andrea Dossena Napoli £4,700,000 08.01.2010
Andriy Voronin Dinamo Moscow £1,800,000 10.01.2010
Nikolay Mihaylov FC Twente £1,500,000 04.02.2010
Mikel San José Domínguez Athletic Bilbao £2,600,000
Fábio Aurélio Unknown Free* 01.07.2010
David Martin MK Dons Free* 01.07.2010
Yossi Benayoun Chelsea £6,000,000 02.07.2010
Albert Riera Olympiacos £3,300,000* 23.07.2010
Diego Cavalieri Cesena £3,000,000 23.08.2010
Krisztián Németh Olympiacos £1,000,000 25.08.2010
Javier Mascherano Barcelona £16,000,000 26.8.10
£79,600,000

by **supersub** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:02 am

fivecups wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:You could argue that Poulsen is as good as Sissoko. In fact I don't even know why Sissoko is on the list?

As for Aquilani - part of the best midfield on the planet? Let's get real here, he barely played, even when fit, under Rafa.

Alonso and Mascherano both wanted out under Rafa also. In fact, directly blame Rafa for Alonso's exit.

Nice to see balance in your posts as always Ciggy

You could argue about the decline of the club if your a blind idiot.

Otherwise you should be fully aware of what's happening.

I don't believe SCS is fully aware of the grave situation our club is in, under the current owners....he persists in blaming everything on Rafa Benitez...talk about head in the sand..

by **kawaton** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:08 am

Thing is tho, both of these sales make sense.

We paid way over the odds for Aquilani, and the more he played, the more he would cost.
If you know your investment was a bad one you don't blindly stick by it knowing it;s going to cost you a lot more (and jeopardise any other investments)
And if the rumours are true we are getting most of our money (minus wages) back.

As for Mascherano he wants out because of his family, so we are forced to sell.

You can blame the owners, and roy all you like but in the case of these two sales, i would have done the same.

by **Ben Patrick** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:10 am

I get what people are saying but to be fair most of the people with these reservations where 100% of the opinion that Gerrard and Torres were being sold.

Just to ask you all, are they still here ?

Mascherano wanted to go, i think we should have been holding out for 25 million but when a player is refusing to play it leaves us with a problem.

And Aquilani has been dog poo for us.

by **Ciggy** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:11 am

kawaton wrote:Thing is tho, both of these sales make sense.

We paid way over the odds for Aquilani, and the more he played, the more he would cost.
If you know your investment was a bad one you don't blindly stick by it knowing it;s going to cost you a lot more (and jeopardise any other investments)
And if the rumours are true we are getting most of our money (minus wages) back.

As for Mascherano he wants out because of his family, so we are forced to sell.

You can blame the owners, and roy all you like but in the case of these two sales, i would have done the same.

Yes that makes loads of sense replaceing a 25 million pound world class midfielder with Christian poulson for 4 million.

And letting Aqualini go to juve without signing a replacement, yes that makes loads of sense I totally agree.

Fucking hell what planet are some of our fans living on?

by **SouthCoastShankly** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:16 am

fivecups wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:You could argue that Poulsen is as good as Sissoko. In fact I don't even know why Sissoko is on the list?

As for Aquilani - part of the best midfield on the planet? Let's get real here, he barely played, even when fit, under Rafa.

Alonso and Mascherano both wanted out under Rafa also. In fact, directly blame Rafa for Alonso's exit.

Nice to see balance in your posts as always Ciggy

You could argue about the decline of the club if your a blind idiot.

Otherwise you should be fully aware of what's happening.

I'm not blind to the situation at all.

The lack of funds prevents our competition with the other sides. I despise it as much as any other supporter but I believe that transfer policy has not helped the situation one bit.

There was no reason for any of the following sales, they weren't forced to generate cash, they we're poor choices -

John Arne Riise AS Roma £4,000,000 01.07.2008
Peter Crouch Portsmouth £11,000,000* 11.07.2008
Xabi Alonso Real Madrid £30,000,000 05.08.2009

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:18 am

Those players left for reasons that everyone has gone through many many times now . At least back then we sold players for their correct fee .

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