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matt_liverpool wrote:Lucas should be 4th choice center mid behind Gerrard, Poulsen and new center mid we are going to sign as Masch replacement.

We desperately need a LB, a center mid and a striker who can actually hold the ball. Only 5 days to sign 3 players. Things are not looking good at all.

Scottbot wrote:Just for those who point blank claim 4-4-2 does not work in the Premiership or in big games I think it's worth pointing out that Spurs played it yesterday and dished out a 4-0 hammering and they also employed in the opener AGAINST CITY and absolutely spanked em in that first half despite somehow failing to score. The personnel and tempo of your passing is JUST as important as the formation selected.

if spurs play 4-4-2 against anyone decent in the CL they'll get spanked.

playing 4-4-2 against city the other day was a mistake but the extent to which gray used it as a stick to beat rafa with was tiresome and laughable. before the game hodgson was apparently "brave" for playing 4-4-2 and we had to listen to gray waffling on about how benitez wouldn't have played two upfront and then had to endure another five minutes of how gerrard should be playing centre mid blah blah blah.

we end up getting spanked 3-0 and yet because it's roy and he's english we'll let him off. if that had been rafa in charge of us he'd have got pulled to shreds. and don't even get me started on spurs. redknapp isn't a tactician in the slightest. they get results by having a high tempo passing game. even if spurs get a tonking in the cl the pundits over here still won't question harry's tactics one bit. it'll be oh spurs are naive at this level and other such nonsense. his tactics were shocking in the first half of the first leg against young boys and yet when they asked tony cottee in the studio if redknapp got his tactics wrong we got a "no i don't think so". once again had it been us under rafa he'd have got slaughtered.

rant over. why am i so angry on my birthday?  

stmichael wrote:

Scottbot wrote:Just for those who point blank claim 4-4-2 does not work in the Premiership or in big games I think it's worth pointing out that Spurs played it yesterday and dished out a 4-0 hammering and they also employed in the opener AGAINST CITY and absolutely spanked em in that first half despite somehow failing to score. The personnel and tempo of your passing is JUST as important as the formation selected.

if spurs play 4-4-2 against anyone decent in the CL they'll get spanked.

playing 4-4-2 against city the other day was a mistake but the extent to which gray used it as a stick to beat rafa with was tiresome and laughable. before the game hodgson was apparently "brave" for playing 4-4-2 and we had to listen to gray waffling on about how benitez wouldn't have played two upfront and then had to endure another five minutes of how gerrard should be playing centre mid blah blah blah.

we end up getting spanked 3-0 and yet because it's roy and he's english we'll let him off. if that had been rafa in charge of us he'd have got pulled to shreds. and don't even get me started on spurs. redknapp isn't a tactician in the slightest. they get results by having a high tempo passing game. even if spurs get a tonking in the cl the pundits over here still won't question harry's tactics one bit. it'll be oh spurs are naive at this level and other such nonsense. his tactics were shocking in the first half of the first leg against young boys and yet when they asked tony cottee in the studio if redknapp got his tactics wrong we got a "no i don't think so". once again had it been us under rafa he'd have got slaughtered.

rant over. why am i so angry on my birthday?  

oh happy birthday you Stan Collymore lookalike


and i agree with Scott, Spurs have very good players in their ranks such as Modric, Kranjcar, Lennon and Defoe who are quick on the attack.

stmichael wrote:

Scottbot wrote:Just for those who point blank claim 4-4-2 does not work in the Premiership or in big games I think it's worth pointing out that Spurs played it yesterday and dished out a 4-0 hammering and they also employed in the opener AGAINST CITY and absolutely spanked em in that first half despite somehow failing to score. The personnel and tempo of your passing is JUST as important as the formation selected.

if spurs play 4-4-2 against anyone decent in the CL they'll get spanked.

playing 4-4-2 against city the other day was a mistake but the extent to which gray used it as a stick to beat rafa with was tiresome and laughable. before the game hodgson was apparently "brave" for playing 4-4-2 and we had to listen to gray waffling on about how benitez wouldn't have played two upfront and then had to endure another five minutes of how gerrard should be playing centre mid blah blah blah.

we end up getting spanked 3-0 and yet because it's roy and he's english we'll let him off. if that had been rafa in charge of us he'd have got pulled to shreds. and don't even get me started on spurs. redknapp isn't a tactician in the slightest. they get results by having a high tempo passing game. even if spurs get a tonking in the cl the pundits over here still won't question harry's tactics one bit. it'll be oh spurs are naive at this level and other such nonsense. his tactics were shocking in the first half of the first leg against young boys and yet when they asked tony cottee in the studio if redknapp got his tactics wrong we got a "no i don't think so". once again had it been us under rafa he'd have got slaughtered.

rant over. why am i so angry on my birthday?  

Penguins wrote:Worst drivel I have read for months...

Scottbot wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Scottbot wrote:Just for those who point blank claim 4-4-2 does not work in the Premiership or in big games I think it's worth pointing out that Spurs played it yesterday and dished out a 4-0 hammering and they also employed in the opener AGAINST CITY and absolutely spanked em in that first half despite somehow failing to score. The personnel and tempo of your passing is JUST as important as the formation selected.

if spurs play 4-4-2 against anyone decent in the CL they'll get spanked.

playing 4-4-2 against city the other day was a mistake but the extent to which gray used it as a stick to beat rafa with was tiresome and laughable. before the game hodgson was apparently "brave" for playing 4-4-2 and we had to listen to gray waffling on about how benitez wouldn't have played two upfront and then had to endure another five minutes of how gerrard should be playing centre mid blah blah blah.

we end up getting spanked 3-0 and yet because it's roy and he's english we'll let him off. if that had been rafa in charge of us he'd have got pulled to shreds. and don't even get me started on spurs. redknapp isn't a tactician in the slightest. they get results by having a high tempo passing game. even if spurs get a tonking in the cl the pundits over here still won't question harry's tactics one bit. it'll be oh spurs are naive at this level and other such nonsense. his tactics were shocking in the first half of the first leg against young boys and yet when they asked tony cottee in the studio if redknapp got his tactics wrong we got a "no i don't think so". once again had it been us under rafa he'd have got slaughtered.

rant over. why am i so angry on my birthday?  

Belated Happy Birthday dude! I agree oon Andy Gray, he didn't half go on about playing the 4-4-2 away and so forth and it got a bit tedious. Must admit I was a little bit surprised to see us set up that way and my first thought was that's brave but it could be a big mistake (which it proved to be). But then watching the first 10 minutes and seeing as City weren't even playing with a proper number 9 I started to think we might just have stolen the initiative here but the personel was all wrong, we sat too deep and our passing was slow and lethargic. However, I still stand by what I say about Spurs, i've been immensely impressed with what i've seen so far this season. They may well get a hammering playing 4-4-2 in Europe but I think they'll surprise a few people. WAtch them play and notice how big they make the pitch, how quickly they move the ball, the play of their wide players, and how effectively they use Crouch/Defoe in the forward positions. It's classic 4-4-2 play. The formation is not dead and buried, not if you play it correctly. I hope (and believe) the best way for us to play is with Torres up front on his own but if Hodgson wants to play some 4-4-2 it may take him some time to get it right because he plainly got it wrong the other night.