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by **Scottbot** » Mon Aug 23, 2010 11:56 pm

Lando_Griffin wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Yes Hodgson should be given time but go and read the predictions thread and people are talking about winning the title and easily getting into the CL spots above teams like city spurs and arsenal yet we are already falling behind those guys and look at the results - we are only missing one player and have no creativity at all and don't have any to bring in . Maybe people will realise their expectations are a little high and lower them to more realistic standards that fit our situation .

Not many on here said we would win the league! many said that we will be a steady ship and try to get into the top 4 and I think we can still do that.

People really are forgetting the fact is that Man City spent more than 100m quid this summer.. and that is a FACT!

They have more money than us --- FACT

They have better players ---- FACT

Man Utd have spent more and have more money than us this season. They have better players: FACT.

Chelsea have spent more, have more and have better players than us: FACT.

MAn City, blah, blah, blah: FACT.

Tottenham, blah, blah, blah: FACT.

Arsenal, blah, blah, blah: FACT.

Guess where we're going to finish?

Why wait for a result like this to come on and stoke the fires Lando?

So sick of the petty arguments, holier than nough attitudes and I told you so egos in this place.

That's not just aimed at you but ALL the usual suspects who continually drag this place to the gutter.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:01 am

7_Kewell wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:you're talking out of your ring peice more like. 2 games in and you're shouting "i told you so! I told you so! I told you so!"....dear oh dear

Stop stalking me you feckin weirdo.

stop posting sh!te

Support the team or feck off.

Do you even read your own posts, you dumbass? You're the biggest hypocrite going.

by **Kharhaz** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:03 am

This place becomes too tedious at times. Throughout this thread there are digs at each other. We are all miffed about the result but we all know the position this club is in with regards to the owners. Petty arguments need to be put aside and we should all just wallow in self pity together !

by **Reg** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:06 am

I love it, I sit in the metaphorical corner chuckling whilst the haymakers fly in either direction... :laugh:

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:07 am

mistyred wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:RAFA'S FAULT . Feckin wrong , it's the feckin owners and the directors who are selling players and not replaceing them ffs . Get yer heads out of your f.uckin a.rses.

Tell ya what then instead of talking a good fight go and wave your flags outside the ground and see if the owners take notice.

Nothing in the world along with all the rose tinted glasses will convince me and others that Rafa is not to blame for the drivel on the bench and absolute shyt that we watched from some of his players week in week out.

You can lead a horse to water... :no

by **Scottbot** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:09 am

I thought it was brave to come out and try and play with 2 upfront but ultimately it was folly because the lads playing in midfield weren't good enough on the ball to boss it against City's midfield 5. Was surprised Hodgson didn't change it at half-time, am guessing he was buoyed by the 5 mins leading up to the break. Whilst City always looked comfortable from the moment they scored I don't think the 3-0 scoreline reflected the game. I know we were poor but don't forget they had 3 shots on target and scored 3 goals. Their superior quality in the wide areas was the real difference, Milner and especially Johnson were outstanding. Where as Kuyt and especially Jovanovic had very poor games. I wouold have liked to have seen Babel on for Jovanovich as early as the 50th minute because the lad had a Biscanesque sort of game. I also would have been tempted to take off Ngog and replace him with another midfielder at half-time.

Only positive I could take form the game was seeing Torres get the best part of 80 minutes + showing a few little bursts to suggest he isn't a million miles away from some decent form. He looks depressed as hell though.

Other thoughts:

- I'd like to see Poulsen in the team ahead of Lucas in the coming weeks. Lucas was invisible tonight.

- 4-4-2 away to big guns like City is not the way forward, or at least not with the personnel out there tonight.

- As solid a player as Danny Agger is we need a left back ASAP, you can't expect him to deal with the likes of Adam Johnson, particularly with zero support from Jovanovich ahead of him.

- Get young Pachecho into the mix in the coming weeks. Can't hurt to see what this kid can do.

- Man to man marking. Notice it didn't even get a mention from the commentary team when they scored from the corner!?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:10 am

7_Kewell wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
roberto green wrote:I could of swore I heard the crowd singing Rafa Rafa Rafael then

They where, dont blame them.

off you tedious tw@t. Call yourself a fan? How many fans ENJOY watching their team lose, just so they can have cheap digs at the new manager. eh?

You're having a laugh, surely?

There are those of us who know, lad, and you're not one of them.

really...according to you Torres and Gerrard were leaving. Roy is a YES man and would sell everyone too.

Say what?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:11 am

crim cram wrote:From the outset the team didn't look up for it. It was really surprising, Nando's body language was telling as well. I hope the lads can put this behind them and get better.

It's Roy's excellent man-management, dontcha know?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:14 am

7_Kewell wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Can you imagine Rafa setting out that formation away from home against City and the team playing as they have, getting done 3-0? He'd be getting slaughtered right now. I wonder will Andy Gray be sucking Roy's balls after this and still be praising the system, which is quiet literally redundant in the modern game. We got swamped in the midfield from the outset.

someone remind he where we finished in the league in Rafa's first season.

Ahhh, but you're forgetting: Roy has loads of Premiership experience and knows what it means to the fans.

Rafa didn't, apparently...

i'm confused. You are in the KNOW....you SAID Torres and Gerrard were leaving. Why are they still here?

Dick - may I call you Dick? When, oh knowing one, did I ever say that they were leaving? When did I say "Torres and Gerrard are goners - take it from me"?

You stupid little girl.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:16 am

metalhead wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Can you imagine Rafa setting out that formation away from home against City and the team playing as they have, getting done 3-0? He'd be getting slaughtered right now. I wonder will Andy Gray be sucking Roy's balls after this and still be praising the system, which is quiet literally redundant in the modern game. We got swamped in the midfield from the outset.

We got swamped in midfield because Lucas - Gerrard doesn't work and with Kuyt it really doesn't help! Surprised? do you think we have another fit midfielder at our disposal when we had the of a player called mascherano to refuse to play today?! don't you think it affected Roy's game plan? Poulsen isn't fit, Aquilani is off to Juventus.

Mascher wanted to leave last Summer, though.

I wonder who persuaded him to stay?

and I wondered who persuaded Torres and Gerrard to stay

Why, did they want to leave under Rafa?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:16 am

OneHotRed wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Can you imagine Rafa setting out that formation away from home against City and the team playing as they have, getting done 3-0? He'd be getting slaughtered right now. I wonder will Andy Gray be sucking Roy's balls after this and still be praising the system, which is quiet literally redundant in the modern game. We got swamped in the midfield from the outset.

We got swamped in midfield because Lucas - Gerrard doesn't work and with Kuyt it really doesn't help! Surprised? do you think we have another fit midfielder at our disposal when we had the of a player called mascherano to refuse to play today?! don't you think it affected Roy's game plan? Poulsen isn't fit, Aquilani is off to Juventus.

Mascher wanted to leave last Summer, though.

I wonder who persuaded him to stay?

His dentist, wanted to finish the job.....

by **Fowler_E7** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:19 am

Scottbot wrote:I thought it was brave to come out and try and play with 2 upfront but ultimately it was folly because the lads playing in midfield weren't good enough on the ball to boss it against City's midfield 5. Was surprised Hodgson didn't change it at half-time, am guessing he was buoyed by the 5 mins leading up to the break. Whilst City always looked comfortable from the moment they scored I don't think the 3-0 scoreline reflected the game. I know we were poor but don't forget they had 3 shots on target and scored 3 goals. Their superior quality in the wide areas was the real difference, Milner and especially Johnson were outstanding. Where as Kuyt and especially Jovanovic had very poor games. I wouold have liked to have seen Babel on for Jovanovich as early as the 50th minute because the lad had a Biscanesque sort of game. I also would have been tempted to take off Ngog and replace him with another midfielder at half-time.

Only positive I could take form the game was seeing Torres get the best part of 80 minutes + showing a few little bursts to suggest he isn't a million miles away from some decent form. He looks depressed as hell though.

Other thoughts:

- I'd like to see Poulsen in the team ahead of Lucas in the coming weeks. Lucas was invisible tonight.

- 4-4-2 away to big guns like City is not the way forward, or at least not with the personnel out there tonight.

- As solid a player as Danny Agger is we need a left back ASAP, you can't expect him to deal with the likes of Adam Johnson, particularly with zero support from Jovanovich ahead of him.

- Get young Pachecho into the mix in the coming weeks. Can't hurt to see what this kid can do.

- Man to man marking. Notice it didn't even get a mention from the commentary team when they scored from the corner!?

agree with most of what you said, changes should have been made at half time, the formation was all wrong for the players in the team. Lucas was invisible as usual, Kuyt was hopeless and out of position and Jokanovic huffed and puffed but constantly lost the ball and didnt help out much against Adam Johnson. The game was lost in midfield and to be honest there team just looked a lot more talented than ours. Man City didnt do much as a team but there individual talent, particuarly on the wings was far superior tonight.

I also loved the fact didnt even mention man marking when we conceded from a corner!

by **Dundalk** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:31 am

Lads seriously :sleep

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:33 am

7_Kewell wrote:
Lando_Griffin wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
7_Kewell wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:Can you imagine Rafa setting out that formation away from home against City and the team playing as they have, getting done 3-0? He'd be getting slaughtered right now. I wonder will Andy Gray be sucking Roy's balls after this and still be praising the system, which is quiet literally redundant in the modern game. We got swamped in the midfield from the outset.

someone remind he where we finished in the league in Rafa's first season.

you've set yourself up here Kewell

Rafa won the CL in his first season and then improved in the league and got CL football in all of the seasons we were here (bar his last)

no i haven't lad, IN THE LEAGUE we were awful..5th place we finished and struggled to get results against the likes of HULL.

Diddums.

Where did Fulham finish last season? (Remember now, you can't use European competitions, as that doesn't count to LFC, does it?)

stll wont answer, will you....i'll ask again seeing as you are int he KNOW

You said Torres and Gerrard were leaving...why are they still here?

Tell us in the KNOW man

You're a right f*cking stalker, aren't you? I was (and still am) making my way through the f*cking thread. Do you think I just look at your posts, you self-obsessed mugwump?

by **Lando_Griffin** » Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:35 am

7_Kewell wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
Zidane wrote:I say lock this thread, everyone just needs to deal with the reality of the situation. Rafa is gone, really guys, he is not our manager anymore. Like it or not it's Roy, how long is it gonna take before everyone can move on? I mean seriously.. just let it go already. I hope once the owners are gone people can just move on and forget about all this .

Well it's tough sh!t for those who chose to NOT support the previous manger over the owners , because now it's coming back to bite the snidey feckers on the @rse , because the manager we have now the one they deem deserves there support is suffering the same problems and more .

after ONE DEFEAT

Will you cry into your LFC bedspread tonight?

Do one, you f*cking swamp-mong.

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