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by **Live4pool** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:42 pm

taff wrote:Again its a timke thing and the players working and understanding each other.

St Mike on the rugby thing about zonal defence it can work really good but you have to have great communicators who organise and Hypia is the only one who stands out there maybe the keeper as he will have more vision of the attack but I dont think thats Dudeks strong point to be honest.

Any lack of communication and you get punished but get it right and its better than man to man as its hard to pick up on an individual basis

The basic truth is we need time and experience as a team to implement the new system were in no mans land at the moment stuck between two philosiphies

yeap, teams on tight budget have to depend on time, experience and lots of hope. eg. this description doesn't seem to fit the profile of the 3 EPL teams vying of top honours.

At the moment, Chelsea isn't a good example of success. But rich and successful teams just go out and buy them young.

It's a number game for the sly old Fergie, he paid (some at obscene) sums for VanHorseface, Veron, Forlan, Rio, Christiano, Roonie. Out of which, the 2 S American flopped.
That's a pretty good return considering the contribution the other 4 have and will make to his team.

Moral of story - No more no talk

by **Live4pool** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 5:44 pm

Moral of story - No money no talk - just wait.

But if we can wait - how about 12 years ?
That's how long Fergie had to toil before winning his first EPL title.

Actually, GH was about half-way there.

Shucks! we have another 11 more years to go with Benitez.

by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 6:27 pm

Live4pool wrote:AB, would you a player like Ronnie or Henry transform the current fortune of Liverpool ?

Which one of the Two Ronnies do you refer to Live4pool Barker or Corbett

by **jonnymac1979** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 8:27 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES wrote:
Live4pool wrote:AB, would you a player like Ronnie or Henry transform the current fortune of Liverpool ?

Which one of the Two Ronnies do you refer to Live4pool Barker or Corbett

Barker I hope, Corbett's too little.

by **A.B.** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:06 pm

Live4pool wrote:
A.B. wrote:Rephrase that. Are you saying that if Rooney or Henry played for us then we would be good? No, football is not revolved around one or two players.

AB, come to think of it, actually our last season revolved around Steven and Owen

We had Houllier back then. Never revolve the game around two players. Now without Owen there isn't a player on a squad who can touch the ball once in the match and score. Now without Gerrard we don't have a player that dominates the midfield against big clubs. Alonso is a good player but it will take time for him to settle in.

Football is and always has been a team game.

by **A.B.** » Wed Sep 29, 2004 9:08 pm

Live4pool wrote:No, I was hoping you would say yes.
And then I would add that in order to have them, we need MONEY.

Very honestly, we are held back by this lack of funds to compete for the best. The transfer fees have become extremely obscene but that's how modern football business goes.

Isn't it a sickening feeling to know that Manure is almost on its way to getting an early return on a 30mil investment ?

I won't comment on Rooney until he has a hat-trick in the Premiership. Two different things when you play in the Premiership and the Champions League just like for Baros when he plays for us and his country.

I want to see if Rooney can score a hat-trick against Arsenal or Chelsea,etc...

by **115-1073096938** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:07 am

The only "bad" signing from Benitez is only Nunez so far.
IMO our current team is obviously -both in average individual and team, better than the last season's. So it will be a very bad luck (which is unlikely) if we finish lower than the last season's achievement.
Notably, while we build the rafalution "on the fly", the enhancement should have completed at a certain expected level as immediate as possible before the ending stage of the season.

Comments like this is exactly what i'm agreeing with.

Some people are so fickle its unreal.

I remember the responses after the treble season on Heskey... what a player he was...

To many people are far to quick to judge one way or another.

by **A.B.** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:32 am

How can someone say that Nunez is a bad signing when he hasn't even played? So because he is injured he is not good of a footballer? That makes no sense, even little children know that kind of comment is ridiculus.

by **115-1073096938** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:42 am

Its not just that. Its the whole Alonso, Garcia and Josemi are the best things since sliced bread comments and how the new systems ****** and will never work (after 10 games).

For gods sake they could be more Heskey's.

Its just annoying the way people have no perspective or aren't willing to give people time!!

by **A.B.** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 12:57 am

This is what it makes it even more frustrating when we lose, not only are we critisized by the media we are horribly critisized by our fans as well.

by **Live4pool** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:04 am

stu_the_red wrote:Its not just that. Its the whole Alonso, Garcia and Josemi are the best things since sliced bread comments and how the new systems ****** and will never work (after 10 games).

For gods sake they could be more Heskey's.

Its just annoying the way people have no perspective or aren't willing to give people time!!

S-t-r,
Would you agree that Pool fans are about the most patient lot in EPL ? Despite all the underperformance, season in and season out, this same fans stayed on. That's for me is unconditional loyalty.

Supporting Liverpool is different from any other clubs. Passion makes a frustrated fan voice out his displeasure and rightly so. For at the end of the day, we don't jump ship and join other glory seekers. Bottling it up may cause mental breakdown.

by **A.B.** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:07 am

Mental breakdown? You're going a bit far, its football, its a sport.

by **Live4pool** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:34 am

A.B. wrote:Mental breakdown? You're going a bit far, its football, its a sport.

My dear AB,

Football is not a matter of live and death,
it's more important than that.

If you don't believe ask Mr Bill Shankly

by **A.B.** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:38 am

Live4pool wrote:
A.B. wrote:Mental breakdown? You're going a bit far, its football, its a sport.

My dear AB,

Football is not a matter of live and death,
it's more important than that.

If you don't believe ask Mr Bill Shankly

I've been a football fan for my entire life, seeing my favourite club lose won't cause me a mental breakdown. Its part of the game, losing that is.

by **Live4pool** » Thu Sep 30, 2004 1:53 am

A.B. wrote:
Live4pool wrote:
A.B. wrote:Mental breakdown? You're going a bit far, its football, its a sport.

My dear AB,

Football is not a matter of live and death,
it's more important than that.

If you don't believe ask Mr Bill Shankly

I've been a football fan for my entire life, seeing my favourite club lose won't cause me a mental breakdown. Its part of the game, losing that is.

Losing is not part of the game.
For Pool fans, it looks like it's the only game for some time now.

I think it is perfectly healthy for fans to express themselves. This makes supporting an institution like Liverpool meaningful.
I have supported Liverpool since early 1970s -admittedly when they were on the rise. I have stuck on since. That does not qualify me a glory seeker as I found no appeal in following Manures, Gunners, Chelski nor Real Madrid.

Note : The above are only my personal views.

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