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Postby Fauxy » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:49 pm

This is just assuming that all the players stay here.

Roy seems pretty keen on 4-4-2 so im gonna assume the setup would be something like this :

                                        Reina

            Johnson        Carra         Agger          Insua

            Kuyt            Mascherano     Gerrard       Babel

                              Torres       Jovanovic


Roy is pretty keen on this Bryan Ruiz striker so if he brought him in then maybe stick Jovanovic on the left instead of Babel.

He also played a fair bit of 4-5-1 at Fulham so maybe he will stick Aquilani in behind Torres.


Doesnt seem like a bad starting line up hmm?
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Postby LFC ANIME » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:55 pm

Reina

Johnson     Carragher     Agger     Figueroa

                         Lucas

                 Gerrard      Aqua
Kuyt                                         Jovanovic

                        Torres
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Postby jacdaniel » Thu Jul 08, 2010 4:23 pm

Possibly... although i really have no idea....

             Reina
Johnson Carra Agger Insua

Kuyt Masch Gerrard Maxi

    Jovanovic Torres

Although id go with...   (assuming Masch is gone). 

              Reina
Johnson Carra Agger *new player*
               lucas
Kuyt         Aqua      Riera
           
            Gerrard
                    Torres

If we can't get a LB, id play Greek at CB and Agger at LB. 

if the system wasnt working out i would sacrifice Lucas, drop Gerrard back and bring on jovanovic.  maxi and Babel would also be useful subs.  And possibly move Johnson to right wing.. with Kelly or Darby moving to RB.  (if we needed goals
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Postby bigmick » Thu Jul 08, 2010 5:28 pm

If everyone stays (and surely they won't, Masherano is a goner) then feck knows who or how he'll play to be honest. Assuming Mash goes though, and assuming Roy gets little cash to spend, this is what I think he'll do:

I don't know about Brian Ruiz (I know feck all about him to be honest) but I do think Roy will sign someone (a striker) at a similar price to what they are talking about in the papers for him (12-14 million). I think the money men will snaffle the rest of the Mash cash. I also think he will sign a replacement for the squad for Mash (Gilberto Silva would be absolutely ideal), and I think he will play 4-4-2. I think he will give Babel another shot but as first replacement striker, and I think HE WILL PLAY ALBERTO AQUILANI, alongside Gerrard. I think he will play Albert Riera on the left, and Derek Kuyt on the right. Carragher and Skyrtel will be his starter central defenders, i think he'll play Agger at left back and Johnson on the right. As such, I think we will be extremely attacking compared to what we've seen previously for the first period of the season.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:48 pm

LFC ANIME wrote:Reina

Johnson     Carragher     Agger     Figueroa

                         Lucas

                 Gerrard      Aqua
Kuyt                                         Jovanovic

                        Torres

Why is Reina standing by the corner flag?
???
Anyone could score against us...
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Postby Ben Patrick » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:50 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:
LFC ANIME wrote:Reina

Johnson     Carragher     Agger     Figueroa

                         Lucas

                 Gerrard      Aqua
Kuyt                                         Jovanovic

                        Torres

Why is Reina standing by the corner flag?
???
Anyone could score against us...

No, he is playing this new system that Roy is going to employ.
Right back sweeper he is.

Its going to revolutionise football.
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Postby andy_g » Thu Jul 08, 2010 7:52 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:
LFC ANIME wrote:Reina

Johnson     Carragher     Agger     Figueroa

                         Lucas

                 Gerrard      Aqua
Kuyt                                         Jovanovic

                        Torres

Why is Reina standing by the corner flag?
???
Anyone could score against us...

No, he is playing this new system that Roy is going to employ.
Right back sweeper he is.

Its going to revolutionise football.

no, its because roy is a fair man, a sportsman and a gentleman. its the only way the other teams will get a chance of scoring.
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Postby fergieisawhiskeynosedtw@t » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:09 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:
LFC ANIME wrote:Reina

Johnson     Carragher     Agger     Figueroa

                         Lucas

                 Gerrard      Aqua
Kuyt                                         Jovanovic

                        Torres

Why is Reina standing by the corner flag?
???
Anyone could score against us...

absolute classic


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Postby bigmick » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:15 pm

One aspect of the whole thing which might be interesting (it certainly will to me anyway) is how much Roy gets involved in a "horses for courses", "tactical shuffling" kind of battle of wills with his rivals on a weekly basis. I'm talking of course about the dreaded "R" word, rotation to you and me.

Now even if the likes of Mash leave, assuming he does the sensible thing and brings in a replacement to the squad (someone like Gilberto Silva on a free has been mentioned) and decides he's going to play 4-4-2. Assuming he once more does the sensible thing and brings in at least one striker (the fella in Holland has been mentioned), where does that leave us?

Well the way I see it, you cannot keep Aquilani at the club and keep him on the bench. We aren't a rich enough club to have 20 million pound footballers sitting on their erse, so if he survives this summer (which I think he will) I think we've got to bite the bullet and play him. If you do that, and we assume we are playing 4-4-2 then Gerrard plays central mid. This means of course that Lucas starts the season on the bench, along with Gilberto. Now Gilberto probably feels at his stage of career, that's fair enough as he couldn't hack a full season anyhow, but Lucas will naturally want to play.

You can make a similar call all over the park. Maxi Rodriguez, Dirk Kuyt, the new bloke and Albert Riera compete for wide midfield slots. Babel might also be in that equation, but he is also in the equation up top along with Torres, Ruiz (if its him), David N'gog etc etc.

At the back we have four centre halves who will want to play, a couple of full backs and a left back (who will surely have a bought in rival or Daniel Agger).

So what does Roy do? Does he make five changes per match while he searches for the right formula, does he swap and change the team in order to "rest players and keep them fresh for the big matches at the end of the season", does he "take the opposition into account and make changes to nullify them", or does he largely and broadly pick what he considers to be his best team?

Nobody ever said you should play the same team in every single match, but it'll surprise nobody to read that I hope he goes for the latter approach. Pick his best team against Arsenal (and for the pre season game directly before it) and tell the squad it's down to them to get in. Those that are in and do well stay in, those that don't, don't.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:44 pm

One thing to note , is that Roy employs a zonal marking system for set pieces . True story that.
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Postby LFC ANIME » Thu Jul 08, 2010 8:46 pm

fergieisawhiskeynosedtw@t wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:
LFC ANIME wrote:Reina

Johnson     Carragher     Agger     Figueroa

                         Lucas

                 Gerrard      Aqua
Kuyt                                         Jovanovic

                        Torres

Why is Reina standing by the corner flag?
???
Anyone could score against us...

absolute classic


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My bad...

Did put Reina in goal, but computer says noooo..... and shift him auto left
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Postby mkingdom » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:18 pm

We have a squad with players who can play in many different positions, so picking a starting XI is hard...but I'll get the keeper right...and Masch won't be here....

                 Reina

Johnson   Carra   Skrtl   Agger

Kuyt    Aqua   Lucas    Babel

               Gerrard
                   Torres

or

                Reina

Johnson  Carra  Greek   Agger

Babel   Gerrard  Aqua    Riera

         Torres   Jovanovic

or


                 Reina

Johnson   Carra  Agger  Insua

                Lucas

Maxi          Aqua           Riera

               Gerrard
               
                      Torres

I think the possibilities are more or less endless, and we have only signed one so far.

Add in another striker, possibly SWP and even Joe Cole and things start to look pretty rosey!!

I also put Ngog nowhere near the first XI.
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Thu Jul 08, 2010 10:39 pm

I think Roy is a sensible chap so will say, Kuyt your a forward, Maxi your a winger etc.. therefore I think it will look like this

                      Reina
Johnson.  Carra.  Agger.  New
Maxi.  Gerrard.  New.  Reira
               Torres. Kuyt.

Gilberto on a free for the middle and god knows who for left back, but Mascha is a gonna and I think Insua will leave as well
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Postby Owzat » Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:07 am

Well if I were rebuilding the squad, working on the imminent departure or likely departures, I'd go with :

GK REINA
RB looking for a relatively cheap one that can defend
LB looking for a relatively cheap one
CB Carragher - but keeping an eye open for a long-term replacement
CM Gerrard
CM Aquilani
CM Lucas - but on the look-out for a good all-round CM
RWF Kuyt
LWF Jovanovic or Babel, whoever shows better form
CF Torres

I'd stick with our basic formation as is, but with the central three not containing an out and out DM. Lucas and Gerrard can tackle and hustle, freeing up Aquilani as playmaker. Lucas and Gerrard can also be quite effective making runs into the box late, if only Lucas had a finish. With better supply and support I think Kuyt and Jovanovic can work as wing forwards, but I'd look for a new striker who can play as CF or WF, like I said about Tevez last year

Interesting to see Xabi having shots for Spain the other night, I see my criticism of his shooting still stands - which is where the ball ends up all too often!
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Postby Roger Red Hat » Fri Jul 09, 2010 9:29 am

Thommo's perm wrote:
LFC ANIME wrote:Reina

Johnson     Carragher     Agger     Figueroa

                         Lucas

                 Gerrard      Aqua
Kuyt                                         Jovanovic

                        Torres

Why is Reina standing by the corner flag?
???
Anyone could score against us...

nah he's drawn it upside down, Torres is in goal...  :D
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