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by **Sabre** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:43 pm

Any news on the figures of the money Rafa will receive for the 4 years of remaining contract?

In the Spanish press I read that he has agreed to get only 4M, forgiving 25M of 4 years contract. Apparently Rafa didn't want to have long negotiations as soon as the merkins told him he wouldn't continue. The Spanish press says that Rafa preffered to move on quickly and not damage nor the club nor the possibility of coaching Inter next season.

by **Greavesie** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:47 pm

Sabre wrote:Any news on the figures of the money Rafa will receive for the 4 years of remaining contract?

In the Spanish press I read that he has agreed to get only 4M, forgiving 25M of 4 years contract. Apparently Rafa didn't want to have long negotiations as soon as the merkins told him he wouldn't continue. The Spanish press says that Rafa preffered to move on quickly and not damage nor the club nor the possibility of coaching Inter next season.

that cant be true Sabes you see, because he's a self-centred tw@t

by **Greavesie** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:49 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Ciggy wrote:
philly wrote:Theres a load of England flags getting burned by Americans right now because of the BP oil spill, do we give a sh1t.

I seen them and no I dont give a sh!t, I do care about the poor flora & fauna that has been destroyed by the leakage of the oil.

show me them!!

even if it's true Lakes what does it show. you're showing yourself to be rather pro-Yank here rather than being bothered about the effects it has on LFC (which is what I thought this discussion was about)

ok whats the worst the Yanks will be in reaction? its people like you that are giving insignificant sh!te too much weight.

by **serendipity** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:49 pm

Sabre wrote:Any news on the figures of the money Rafa will receive for the 4 years of remaining contract?

In the Spanish press I read that he has agreed to get only 4M, forgiving 25M of 4 years contract. Apparently Rafa didn't want to have long negotiations as soon as the merkins told him he wouldn't continue. The Spanish press says that Rafa preffered to move on quickly and not damage nor the club nor the possibility of coaching Inter next season.

I heard it was £6million, and for that I have to thank Rafa.

by **lakes10** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 12:52 pm

This is why the medioa think its a SOS run March

by **JohnBull** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:30 pm

If it is going to be Arab owners, what's going to happen if they don't give the new Boss zillions and zillions of dollars ? I can feel a crusade coming on.

I bet the great man, Shanks, is spinning in his grave. This whole fiasco is an insult to his memory and I don't just mean G&H - EVERYONE including Rafa, the fans, the players, the board parasites want to have a good look at themselves and ask if their actions were in the sole interest of LIVERPOOL FOOTBALL CLUB and not just padding for wallets and egos.
Half of the people claiming to hold the ethics and morals of Shanks were born into a world HE would not have recognised and would not have accepted. He'd have no more put up with G&H than he would have accepted the flag burners or the multi millionaire players.
Personally I find it offensive that the man's name is even being associated with this disgrace.

by **jacdaniel** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:49 pm

strange how not one of the players except Reina have found the time to say Thank you Rafa.

by **jacdaniel** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:56 pm

i cant quite grasp why anyone is over the moon about this. We need new OWNERS.
Rafa was just a side issue and his position should of been reviewed when the new owners come in.

Now we'll most likely downgrade our manager and not offer any funds at all.

And whats up with Purslow apparently hinting that he is signing Yaya Toure? Does he want the job? lol

is that why he was campaigning to get Rafa out

by **Bad Bob** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 1:58 pm

This thread is miles off topic now. I'm shutting it down for a few minutes to let everyone catch their breath and remember that this thread is about Rafa Benitez and not the pros and cons of burning flags. If that's something you'd like to bang your drum about, do it here:

Flag Burning Thread

The Rafa thread will reopen soon but further discussion about flag burning in here will not be tolerated.

by **stmichael** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:42 pm

Right. This thread has been cleaned up now as it had gone miles off topic. The two blatant alterego's have also been binned for spouting nonsense and deliberately stirring things up.

I'll re-open it now with the warning that any deviation from the topic will result in it being locked again. This thread is for discussion about Rafa's departure ONLY. No talk about burning flags is wanted in here. If you want to talk about that please use the thread provided.

by **Reg** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:41 pm

I was thinking about it overnight, Martin Broughton our Chelsea fan CEO said in his interview @18th may they didnt want Rafa to leave. Subsequently we learned their discussions had broken down and I guess the decision to part was made about a week ago.

The fact the club didnt want Rafa to go is the reason we dont have a replacement lined up, so the only reason why talks would break down forcing the issue is transfer money. Rafa didnt want to leave, the club didnt want him to go but there was no way forward. Hence I dont think he was sacked, it was a stalemate situation and Rafa didnt press for his full payoff value but was happy to accept 18 months money - technically he wasn't sacked so wasnt entitled to the full contractual payoff.

I dont buy into the theory new owners wanted T&T to clear him our prior to a purchase as Rafa's popularity with the fanbase would of helped a smooth owner transition.

People say Rafa missed the chance to go to Juve. Again I´m sure the top managers/agents gossip knew Morris was going to Real Madrid and the opening at Inter would appear - a far better prospect than Juve, a genuine chance to win a top league (thanks to Morris) and of course great CL potential - at a great club and top salary. How has Rafa lost out leaving LFC?

The owners have reduced the value of the club losing Rafa, the fans have seen the player/manager side of the club weakened but Rafa... has lost nothing, in fact going to Inter would be a promotion.

We´ve just added 6 million to our debt paying off teh guy we didnt want to lose, we lose some of the backroom staff and we need to go find a replacement manager and bootroom.

So once again the owners have screwed the club and achieved nothing.

by **akumaface** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 3:50 pm

jacdaniel wrote:strange how not one of the players except Reina have found the time to say Thank you Rafa.

Are we getting any reaction from Gerrard, Carra and Torres? I wonder what they will say.

by **Igor Zidane** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:07 pm

lakes10 wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:
Penguins wrote:That is where we differ as I believe Torres and Gerrards future is more linked to the ownership situation than the situation with Rafa.
Torres and Gerrard will leave regardless of Rafa if the club does nothing this summer.

Heared Jamie Rednapp on sky when I got in from work.
He basically said that SG and Torres said it was them or Rafa.
I think that was the the last straw for the board myself

Jamie redknapp talks sh!te , just like his father . Gerrard and Torres will be off make no mistake . Not because of Rafa , but because of lack of investment . Get used to it .

no i dont think so, i think it was made clear by the pl;ayers that to keep them the club would neded to get rid of Rafa, that has happend and they will now stay.

Oh dear lakes lad , looks like you were wrong again mate .

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Liverpool FC braced for more departures - Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard and Javier Mascherano set to follow Rafael Benitez

LIVERPOOL are facing a monumental battle to convince star trio Steven Gerrard, Fernando Torres and Javier Mascherano not to follow Rafa Benitez out of Anfield.

The Reds’ search for a new manager began in earnest today as the dust started to settle on Benitez’s dramatic departure after almost six years in charge of the club.

Managing Director Christian Purslow and Academy Ambassador Kenny Dalglish will lead the search for the new candidate and they will be looking for a man with vast experience who possesses outstanding coaching acumen to replace Benitez, who is understood to be “devastated” that his reign is now over after weeks of speculation.

While he dares not make a mistake in appointing Benitez’s successor, Purslow is faced with just as big a challenge in attempting to show Gerrard, Torres and Mascherano that they should stick around on Merseyside and give the new man another season.

Torres, for starters, has refused to commit his future to the club and both Manchester City and Chelsea are waiting in the wings to snap up the Spaniard if – as is looking likely – he feels Liverpool are not going to be in a position soon to challenge for top honours.

The Reds’ leading scorer has made it clear that he will not be making a decision until after the World Cup finals – he sat out Spain’s 1-0 win over South Korea in Innsbruck last night after not sufficiently recovering from knee surgery last month – and Liverpool’s hierarchy will face an anxious wait to see if he ends up delivering bad news.

Liverpool have consistently stressed that they have no intention to cash in on Torres but their hand could be forced if the 26-year-old, who moved to Anfield in the summer of 2007 in a club record breaking £20.2m deal, does not feel they can make sufficient progress.

Gerrard, similarly, has informed those closest to him that he does not want to be distracted by speculation during the World Cup finals but has indicated in recent weeks that he knows he will have a tough decision to make once the tournament is over.

Nothing would give Gerrard greater satisfaction than to play a massive role in Liverpool’s revival and to help them challenge for honours once again but, equally, nothing would dismay him more if the club’s top brass ended up delivering a succession of empty promises.

Real Madrid, whose efforts to sign Gerrard were cranked up a notch on Wednesday following a three-page editorial about him in the respected sports newspaper Marca, are waiting in the wings to pounce if Liverpool fail to come good.

Mascherano has stalled on signing the new contract that was offered him in March and, as a player who is closely allied to Benitez, it is now likely that he will depart after Argentina’s World Cup campaign has ended; his situation is complicated by the fact his wife and daughters are hankering for a return to a Spanish speaking environment

Benitez himself is unlikely to be short of offers for a new job and Inter Milan have stepped up their attempts to convince him to succeed Jose Mourinho at the San Siro in the near future.

“We really like Rafa Benitez and he is in our favour since the Champions League final in Istanbul,” said Inter director Gabriele Oriali.

“He has a certain affinity with the Nerazzurri. But the choice will be made by our president Massimo Moratti. He will listen to his staff, and then the last word is his.

“Whoever comes to Inter will not upset everything. We have a winning team”

An Inter statement then confirmed: “If Benitez, shows interest for the Inter bench then he will be one of the candidates, but not the only one.”

Keeper Pepe Reina, meanwhile, admits he was stunned by the news of Benitez’s departure.

“It’s a sad moment for Liverpool, for Rafa Benitez and for the players who have been with him,” said Reina.

“He was a very important person for the club for six years. Liverpool grew with him and Rafa also grew thanks to Liverpool.

“I hope that this crisis passes. That a person so important for the club as Rafa Benitez has left is news that you never would have expected and that you never would have believed.

“The only thing left for me is to thank him for his confidence during all this time. I wish him the best of luck.”

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:12 pm

This is a little snippet from the press - im wondering why Lakes hasnt mentioned or maybe because it goes against everything he has been saying about Rafa and the players

Liverpool fear exodus of key players after Benitez walks

Gerrard, Torres, Mascherano and Reina all expected to depart after manager agrees £6m severance deal. Hughes among the leading candidates to take job

By Chris Brereton and Ian Herbert

The departure of Rafael Benitez as Liverpool manager yesterday raised fears that that an exodus would follow, led by Fernando Torres, Steven Gerrard, Javier Mascherano and Pepe Reina, according to sources inside the club.

The end of Benitez's six-year tenure, which was confirmed at around 3.45pm, has been greeted with dismay by the Liverpool squad and a well-placed source has confirmed that he is unlikely to be the only person leaving Merseyside this summer.

Although the Liverpool dressing room was anything but satisfied with last season's seventh-place finish in the Premier League, talk of dressing-room unrest is relatively wide of the mark. Benitez may have maintained a professional rather than paternal relationship with his players, but he was widely liked by his squad.

The loss of any of the four names mentioned above would be little short of catastrophic for Liverpool, whose chronic lack of strength in depth was a leading cause of last season's failings and Benitez's subsequent downfall.

Although Reina has only recently signed a six-year contract, he is thought to be furious at the developments, while Mascherano and Torres are equally concerned, not just about Benitez's exit but also by the lack of funds available to strengthen the squad. It is the combination of those two issues that is thought to lie behind the belief that they could be on their way.

However, of all those potentially heading towards the door, it is Gerrard who would represent the most significant loss and the one that would hurt Liverpool's supporters the most.

In his 12 years as a first-team player at Anfield, Gerrard has acquired an almost talismanic status, but even he is apparently beginning to wonder if this is the end. The Spanish newspaper Marca – Real Madrid's direct line into their domestic media – has been reporting for several days that the club's new manager, Jose Mourinho, wants to attract the Liverpool captain with a bid worth £30m, and the removal of Benitez makes that more likely.

The Spaniard was unhappy last summer with Real's conduct in their ultimately successful approach for midfielder Xabi Alonso and he was highly reluctant ever to deal again with the club that he had once, ironically enough, played for and coached. His demise, therefore, eliminates one potential hurdle that Mourinho would have to overcome, although any jostling for Gerrard's signature is likely to be delayed until after the World Cup.

After a morning of fevered speculation as to when an official announcement would be made, Benitez's mid-afternoon departure was confirmed with a statement on the club website. A deal worth £6m has been hammered out between Benitez and the Liverpool board, led by the managing director, Christian Purslow, and although a deal by "mutual consent" is the agreed party line, the passion behind Benitez's farewell highlighted his reluctance to leave the club he guided to the Champions League title in 2005 and the FA Cup a season later.

"It is very sad for me to announce that I will no longer be manager of Liverpool FC," he said. "I would like to thank all of the staff and players for their efforts. I'll always keep in my heart the good times I've had here, the strong and loyal support of the fans in the tough times and the love from Liverpool.

"I have no words to thank you enough for all these years and I am very proud to say that I was your manager. Thank you so much once more and always remember: You'll never walk alone."

Liverpool's chairman, Martin Broughton, paid tribute to a man who, rightly or wrongly, was still adored by large sections of the club's fan base. "Rafa will for ever be part of Liverpool folklore after bringing home the Champions League following the epic final in Istanbul," he said. "But after a disappointing season, both parties felt a fresh start would be best for all concerned."

The race is now on to find a long-term replacement, a task that Purslow and Kenny Dalglish, the club's former manager and current ambassador, will oversee.

Mark Hughes, the former Manchester City manager, is thought to be intrigued by the role, and his representatives have begun sounding out Liverpool to see whether that feeling is reciprocated.

The sacked Real Madrid manager Manuel Pellegrini would turn his back on a lucrative contract with Fenerbahce to take over. The Chilean coach, who was replaced by Mourinho earlier this week, speaks perfect English and sources close to him have indicated he would be tempted despite the Istanbul offer.

by **zarababe** » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:17 pm

Kenny is devastated by Rafa's departure and the echo is reporting HE DID NOT LOSE THE DRESSING ROOM.. so with so much dignity and valour our fighter has moved-on and the powers that be are free to destroy the institution.. no doubt they bough his silence too !

Thank you Rafa Benitez !

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