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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:22 pm

teamleader1 wrote:Heared Jamie Rednapp on sky when I got in from work.
He basically said that SG and Torres said it was them or Rafa.
I think that was the the last straw for the board myself

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This Redknapp interview?

Interviewer: "Have you heard anything from inside the dressing room?"

Redknapp: "No I haven't.....if they're not happy I'm sure they'd make their views known....and if it's a case of Gerrard going because he's not happy with the manager and Rafa staying, you want to keep Steven Gerrard".
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Postby Rush Job » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:25 pm

If we are going to be losing the likes of SG and Torres and right now it seems very likely then we need a manager who is proven in the league and a motivator, someone who can get that bit more out of his players, so its MON or Hodgson for me.
It can be looked at again if and when we get new owners.
Just heard barca are trying to offload ibrahimovic to fund a move for Torres.
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Postby tubby » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:32 pm

Posted this in the takeover thread but gonna post it here too....

Just throwing this out there.
There is a supposed ITK on another forum who spoke about Rafa's severance package a couple of weeks ago and he got it right. He has taken a lot of flak off loads of others but he keeps coming back with stuff. This is the latest. Probably more :censored: but let's see.


"The board's roles haven't changed, Purslow is still liaising with the known investors and Broughton is there a part-time figurehead - to close any deals. However, as Chairman he had to be involved with Rafa leaving, signing the statement etc.

Hicks and Gillett don't have anything to do with the club, yes they 'own' it but the bank owns them! They are effectively locked out, so no, there can't be a fire sale of our best players. Unless, the players want to leave that is.

Purslow, is also involved with looking for a new manager, in addition to liaising with the investors. Don't be fooled though, he and Kenny aren't looking too hard! They know who's coming in... This has been highly planned. Purslow, is really keeping the sponsors calm and Ayre is doing his bit too.

The investors (both of them) wanted Rafa out before they come in. So the slate is clean and they will avoid any bad press. Yes, it was acceptable to all the investors that Rafa left.

The club will be sold in a 'range' between £450 and £590m. That's a huge variance but the bottom figure is agreed by RBS and Barclays as the 'actual' value of the club. Although both expect the 2 investors to cap out at the £590. Sadly for Hicks and Gillett, they will not get anywhere near £800m.

It's really fluid and really exciting and things are all in hand. You'd be rather daft to think this hasn't been quite carefully planned! "
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Postby teamleader1 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:32 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:
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Penguins wrote:That is where we differ as I believe Torres and Gerrards future is more linked to the ownership situation than the situation with Rafa.
Torres and Gerrard will leave regardless of Rafa if the club does nothing this summer.

Heared Jamie Rednapp on sky when I got in from work.
He basically said that SG and Torres said it was them or Rafa.
I think that was the the last straw for the board myself

Don't tell me your take the word of a Sky Sports brown nose like Jamie as gospel. There is absolutely no f*cking proof whatsoever that Gerrard and Torres had anything to do with Rafa's sacking, and if they did, then they should be sold as soon as. Let's wait and see when it all comes out.

Yer I will take the word of someone who's a mate of SG and talks with him a lot.
SG and Torres will give us at least next season to see what happens over the sale of the club and what investment is made on the team.
Its to easy to forget just how bad Rafas performance actually was last season.
As bad as I've ever seen at Anfield

Again, another one who wants to re-write history according to them. As bad as this season was, it pales to 1992 when we were sitting 15th in the league...in April of that season. We miraculously finished 6th.

ffs lad
you've just watched the biggest load of shyte, Rafas decision making was often unexplainable!
Your the one who's rewriting history
Rafa earned the bullit, his feet wouldn't have touched at any of the other top clubs.
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Postby puroresu » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:36 pm

bavlondon wrote:Posted this in the takeover thread but gonna post it here too....

Just throwing this out there.
There is a supposed ITK on another forum who spoke about Rafa's severance package a couple of weeks ago and he got it right. He has taken a lot of flak off loads of others but he keeps coming back with stuff. This is the latest. Probably more :censored: but let's see.


"The board's roles haven't changed, Purslow is still liaising with the known investors and Broughton is there a part-time figurehead - to close any deals. However, as Chairman he had to be involved with Rafa leaving, signing the statement etc.

Hicks and Gillett don't have anything to do with the club, yes they 'own' it but the bank owns them! They are effectively locked out, so no, there can't be a fire sale of our best players. Unless, the players want to leave that is.

Purslow, is also involved with looking for a new manager, in addition to liaising with the investors. Don't be fooled though, he and Kenny aren't looking too hard! They know who's coming in... This has been highly planned. Purslow, is really keeping the sponsors calm and Ayre is doing his bit too.

The investors (both of them) wanted Rafa out before they come in. So the slate is clean and they will avoid any bad press. Yes, it was acceptable to all the investors that Rafa left.

The club will be sold in a 'range' between £450 and £590m. That's a huge variance but the bottom figure is agreed by RBS and Barclays as the 'actual' value of the club. Although both expect the 2 investors to cap out at the £590. Sadly for Hicks and Gillett, they will not get anywhere near £800m.

It's really fluid and really exciting and things are all in hand. You'd be rather daft to think this hasn't been quite carefully planned! "

I really hope this is true.  My worry was we would get bought and be stuck with Rafa for at least 1 year.  Would be great to see new owners with a new high profile Manager and a new team.
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Postby teamleader1 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:36 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:Heared Jamie Rednapp on sky when I got in from work.
He basically said that SG and Torres said it was them or Rafa.
I think that was the the last straw for the board myself

Link

This Redknapp interview?

Interviewer: "Have you heard anything from inside the dressing room?"

Redknapp: "No I haven't.....if they're not happy I'm sure they'd make their views known....and if it's a case of Gerrard going because he's not happy with the manager and Rafa staying, you want to keep Steven Gerrard".

Different interview m8
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Postby tubby » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:39 pm

puroresu wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Posted this in the takeover thread but gonna post it here too....

Just throwing this out there.
There is a supposed ITK on another forum who spoke about Rafa's severance package a couple of weeks ago and he got it right. He has taken a lot of flak off loads of others but he keeps coming back with stuff. This is the latest. Probably more :censored: but let's see.


"The board's roles haven't changed, Purslow is still liaising with the known investors and Broughton is there a part-time figurehead - to close any deals. However, as Chairman he had to be involved with Rafa leaving, signing the statement etc.

Hicks and Gillett don't have anything to do with the club, yes they 'own' it but the bank owns them! They are effectively locked out, so no, there can't be a fire sale of our best players. Unless, the players want to leave that is.

Purslow, is also involved with looking for a new manager, in addition to liaising with the investors. Don't be fooled though, he and Kenny aren't looking too hard! They know who's coming in... This has been highly planned. Purslow, is really keeping the sponsors calm and Ayre is doing his bit too.

The investors (both of them) wanted Rafa out before they come in. So the slate is clean and they will avoid any bad press. Yes, it was acceptable to all the investors that Rafa left.

The club will be sold in a 'range' between £450 and £590m. That's a huge variance but the bottom figure is agreed by RBS and Barclays as the 'actual' value of the club. Although both expect the 2 investors to cap out at the £590. Sadly for Hicks and Gillett, they will not get anywhere near £800m.

It's really fluid and really exciting and things are all in hand. You'd be rather daft to think this hasn't been quite carefully planned! "

I really hope this is true.  My worry was we would get bought and be stuck with Rafa for at least 1 year.  Would be great to see new owners with a new high profile Manager and a new team.

There was also this

Rumour from a lad who knows Carra...

Good news on the horizon within a few week... I am assuming he means ownership but he couldn't say (he hopes Rafa's going)
Torres is staying for at least another year
Gerrard's future is less clear


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Anyway I know it's a traumatic day and I don't want to get my hopes up but if this is true then it would perhaps make sense from a new ownership perspective.
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Postby puroresu » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:42 pm

bavlondon wrote:
puroresu wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Posted this in the takeover thread but gonna post it here too....

Just throwing this out there.
There is a supposed ITK on another forum who spoke about Rafa's severance package a couple of weeks ago and he got it right. He has taken a lot of flak off loads of others but he keeps coming back with stuff. This is the latest. Probably more :censored: but let's see.


"The board's roles haven't changed, Purslow is still liaising with the known investors and Broughton is there a part-time figurehead - to close any deals. However, as Chairman he had to be involved with Rafa leaving, signing the statement etc.

Hicks and Gillett don't have anything to do with the club, yes they 'own' it but the bank owns them! They are effectively locked out, so no, there can't be a fire sale of our best players. Unless, the players want to leave that is.

Purslow, is also involved with looking for a new manager, in addition to liaising with the investors. Don't be fooled though, he and Kenny aren't looking too hard! They know who's coming in... This has been highly planned. Purslow, is really keeping the sponsors calm and Ayre is doing his bit too.

The investors (both of them) wanted Rafa out before they come in. So the slate is clean and they will avoid any bad press. Yes, it was acceptable to all the investors that Rafa left.

The club will be sold in a 'range' between £450 and £590m. That's a huge variance but the bottom figure is agreed by RBS and Barclays as the 'actual' value of the club. Although both expect the 2 investors to cap out at the £590. Sadly for Hicks and Gillett, they will not get anywhere near £800m.

It's really fluid and really exciting and things are all in hand. You'd be rather daft to think this hasn't been quite carefully planned! "

I really hope this is true.  My worry was we would get bought and be stuck with Rafa for at least 1 year.  Would be great to see new owners with a new high profile Manager and a new team.

There was also this

Rumour from a lad who knows Carra...

Good news on the horizon within a few week... I am assuming he means ownership but he couldn't say (he hopes Rafa's going)
Torres is staying for at least another year
Gerrard's future is less clear


-------

Anyway I know it's a traumatic day and I don't want to get my hopes up but if this is true then it would perhaps make sense from a new ownership perspective.

The timing is the interesting thing.  Why now?  Why not at the end of the season?  It seems it was done now for a reason.
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Postby teamleader1 » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:43 pm

puroresu wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Posted this in the takeover thread but gonna post it here too....

Just throwing this out there.
There is a supposed ITK on another forum who spoke about Rafa's severance package a couple of weeks ago and he got it right. He has taken a lot of flak off loads of others but he keeps coming back with stuff. This is the latest. Probably more :censored: but let's see.


"The board's roles haven't changed, Purslow is still liaising with the known investors and Broughton is there a part-time figurehead - to close any deals. However, as Chairman he had to be involved with Rafa leaving, signing the statement etc.

Hicks and Gillett don't have anything to do with the club, yes they 'own' it but the bank owns them! They are effectively locked out, so no, there can't be a fire sale of our best players. Unless, the players want to leave that is.

Purslow, is also involved with looking for a new manager, in addition to liaising with the investors. Don't be fooled though, he and Kenny aren't looking too hard! They know who's coming in... This has been highly planned. Purslow, is really keeping the sponsors calm and Ayre is doing his bit too.

The investors (both of them) wanted Rafa out before they come in. So the slate is clean and they will avoid any bad press. Yes, it was acceptable to all the investors that Rafa left.

The club will be sold in a 'range' between £450 and £590m. That's a huge variance but the bottom figure is agreed by RBS and Barclays as the 'actual' value of the club. Although both expect the 2 investors to cap out at the £590. Sadly for Hicks and Gillett, they will not get anywhere near £800m.

It's really fluid and really exciting and things are all in hand. You'd be rather daft to think this hasn't been quite carefully planned! "

I really hope this is true.  My worry was we would get bought and be stuck with Rafa for at least 1 year.  Would be great to see new owners with a new high profile Manager and a new team.

So do I  :D

I can easily believe this is a lot nearer the truth than all the scaremongering about fire sales etc
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Postby Emerald Red » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:46 pm

teamleader1 wrote:Yer my monies on them both giving it another season!
And dont forget, Rafa got the bullet for his bad management.
And got a very nice little 6ml to ease the pain.

You think they sacked him for football reasons? 'kin hell. These two don't give a flying f*ck about the football. It was never about the football for them. It was money reasons and that's all. The fact that a signed and binding contract agreeing a 16 million pay off should they sack the man wasn't honoured by them is a f*cking disgrace too.
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Postby Rush Job » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:56 pm

Aye, and all the talk of rafa holding the club to ransom can now be seen to be a load of sh!te, just as I said.
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Postby Effes » Thu Jun 03, 2010 10:58 pm

Rush Job wrote:Aye, and all the talk of rafa holding the club to ransom can now be seen to be a load of sh!te, just as I said.

Some things never change round here - your catchphrase being one.
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Postby tubby » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:00 pm

teamleader1 wrote:
puroresu wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Posted this in the takeover thread but gonna post it here too....

Just throwing this out there.
There is a supposed ITK on another forum who spoke about Rafa's severance package a couple of weeks ago and he got it right. He has taken a lot of flak off loads of others but he keeps coming back with stuff. This is the latest. Probably more :censored: but let's see.


"The board's roles haven't changed, Purslow is still liaising with the known investors and Broughton is there a part-time figurehead - to close any deals. However, as Chairman he had to be involved with Rafa leaving, signing the statement etc.

Hicks and Gillett don't have anything to do with the club, yes they 'own' it but the bank owns them! They are effectively locked out, so no, there can't be a fire sale of our best players. Unless, the players want to leave that is.

Purslow, is also involved with looking for a new manager, in addition to liaising with the investors. Don't be fooled though, he and Kenny aren't looking too hard! They know who's coming in... This has been highly planned. Purslow, is really keeping the sponsors calm and Ayre is doing his bit too.

The investors (both of them) wanted Rafa out before they come in. So the slate is clean and they will avoid any bad press. Yes, it was acceptable to all the investors that Rafa left.

The club will be sold in a 'range' between £450 and £590m. That's a huge variance but the bottom figure is agreed by RBS and Barclays as the 'actual' value of the club. Although both expect the 2 investors to cap out at the £590. Sadly for Hicks and Gillett, they will not get anywhere near £800m.

It's really fluid and really exciting and things are all in hand. You'd be rather daft to think this hasn't been quite carefully planned! "

I really hope this is true.  My worry was we would get bought and be stuck with Rafa for at least 1 year.  Would be great to see new owners with a new high profile Manager and a new team.

So do I  :D

I can easily believe this is a lot nearer the truth than all the scaremongering about fire sales etc

Sure as hell hope so mate, otherwise we are well truely in a bad way. But at the same time if this was true then maybe the players would have been informed (or at least the senior players)...

Just as well there is a world cup starting next week otherwise id probably lose my rag with all the SSN jizzing over us.
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Postby Rush Job » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:01 pm

Effes wrote:
Rush Job wrote:Aye, and all the talk of rafa holding the club to ransom can now be seen to be a load of sh!te, just as I said.

Some things never change round here - your catchphrase being one.

Go on then find another one, bet you cant.
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Thu Jun 03, 2010 11:03 pm

bavlondon wrote:
teamleader1 wrote:
puroresu wrote:
bavlondon wrote:Posted this in the takeover thread but gonna post it here too....

Just throwing this out there.
There is a supposed ITK on another forum who spoke about Rafa's severance package a couple of weeks ago and he got it right. He has taken a lot of flak off loads of others but he keeps coming back with stuff. This is the latest. Probably more :censored: but let's see.


"The board's roles haven't changed, Purslow is still liaising with the known investors and Broughton is there a part-time figurehead - to close any deals. However, as Chairman he had to be involved with Rafa leaving, signing the statement etc.

Hicks and Gillett don't have anything to do with the club, yes they 'own' it but the bank owns them! They are effectively locked out, so no, there can't be a fire sale of our best players. Unless, the players want to leave that is.

Purslow, is also involved with looking for a new manager, in addition to liaising with the investors. Don't be fooled though, he and Kenny aren't looking too hard! They know who's coming in... This has been highly planned. Purslow, is really keeping the sponsors calm and Ayre is doing his bit too.

The investors (both of them) wanted Rafa out before they come in. So the slate is clean and they will avoid any bad press. Yes, it was acceptable to all the investors that Rafa left.

The club will be sold in a 'range' between £450 and £590m. That's a huge variance but the bottom figure is agreed by RBS and Barclays as the 'actual' value of the club. Although both expect the 2 investors to cap out at the £590. Sadly for Hicks and Gillett, they will not get anywhere near £800m.

It's really fluid and really exciting and things are all in hand. You'd be rather daft to think this hasn't been quite carefully planned! "

I really hope this is true.  My worry was we would get bought and be stuck with Rafa for at least 1 year.  Would be great to see new owners with a new high profile Manager and a new team.

So do I  :D

I can easily believe this is a lot nearer the truth than all the scaremongering about fire sales etc

Sure as hell hope so mate, otherwise we are well truely in a bad way. But at the same time if this was true then maybe the players would have been informed (or at least the senior players)...

Just as well there is a world cup starting next week otherwise id probably lose my rag with all the SSN jizzing over us.

looks like a story leeked to calm the masses, if there is any truth in this then the club need to release a statement or something soon because there are alot of very pi$$ed off people making plans to bring this shabby house of cards down.
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