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Postby Emerald Red » Mon May 31, 2010 6:03 am

PabloAimar wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/footbal....ontract

The Israeli anticipates the completion of his move to Stamford Bridge over the next few days having indicated last week while on international duty that Chelsea were keen to sign him. "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool," he said. "Chelsea will have to pay some £6m, but I believe that, in the end, I'll be moving there."

His market value probably is around £6M - but we shouldn't be selling him for less than £15-20M because that's how much [b]rafa would need to find an adequate replacement.[\b]

Hardly. How much did Benitez buy him for in the first place? 4 million? So why would it take 4 times that amount to find someone the same or better? In fact, it wouldn't be too difficult to find someone better for the 8 million supposedly offered for him, which should be taken. It's amazing how you value a average player to be as high as 15 million pounds worth more so than the judgement of a manager that bought him for virtually peanuts and will most certainly get close to double the amount paid.
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Postby Emerald Red » Mon May 31, 2010 6:08 am

dawson99 wrote:Benched him too often, played him out of position, played football so dire no one is allowed to be creative (just playnig devils advocate here)

Played him out of position?  ???
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Postby leep33 » Mon May 31, 2010 7:15 am

I think that if we got betwenn 6 and 8 million then that would be quite good business, and he will probably get les games at Chelsea than he did for us.
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Postby maguskwt » Mon May 31, 2010 10:42 am

Fecking disgrace, it's like vultures are circling over our club because we're in somuch deep :censored: financially. Yeah and all we're interested in is to blame rafa. If Chelsea wants yossi, I'd quote 10 million... Take it or leave it... 15-20 million is a bit too unrealistic IMO...
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Postby maguskwt » Mon May 31, 2010 10:48 am

Emerald Red wrote:
PabloAimar wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/footbal....ontract

The Israeli anticipates the completion of his move to Stamford Bridge over the next few days having indicated last week while on international duty that Chelsea were keen to sign him. "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool," he said. "Chelsea will have to pay some £6m, but I believe that, in the end, I'll be moving there."

His market value probably is around £6M - but we shouldn't be selling him for less than £15-20M because that's how much [b]rafa would need to find an adequate replacement.[\b]

Hardly. How much did Benitez buy him for in the first place? 4 million? So why would it take 4 times that amount to find someone the same or better? In fact, it wouldn't be too difficult to find someone better for the 8 million supposedly offered for him, which should be taken. It's amazing how you value a average player to be as high as 15 million pounds worth more so than the judgement of a manager that bought him for virtually peanuts and will most certainly get close to double the amount paid.

It's not just his market value ER. We are skint and more likely than not we won't be buying players worth more than 5 millions. Yossi had been a good player for us in the past season and could fill in well for gerrard's role. We can't afford to lose a good squad player anymore...
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Postby fivecups » Mon May 31, 2010 10:55 am

I'll be very sorry to see him go, especially for 6 million. Quality player who can change games. Wasn't his best season last year but then everyone barr Pepe was poor. The season before he was superb and integral to our second place finish and 86 points.

I think the chances of us getting the 6 million back to reinvest are slim. If we do the chances we'll get someone the equal of Yossi are slimmer. We don't know what the score is with Reira, Aurelio's left so who does that leave to play LM. Babel? Gerrard?

Just more depletion of our already depleted squad, and a key player at that.
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Postby haps » Mon May 31, 2010 11:08 am

I think it's very sad to see where we've come to:  All this talk of selling players. .. Do we take £6m or £8m?  Blah blah.  Benayoun is a quality player JUST turned 30.  He's a potential matchwinner.  He's great on the ball and in form, he can run a game for us, score goals, everything.  He's also been seeing plenty of action on the pitch this past season.  Put it the other way - say Villa had Yossi and we heard he was going for around that price, we'd jump at it.  Wouldn't we?  Why are we selling these players??  Aurelio's about to go through necessity / injury concerns.  Good luck to him.  Did a good job when fit and called upon but Yossi's different.  I know it's just a different time now in football but it's still sad to see LFC selling on it's talent.  What's Rafa going to do with £6m?  Buy a quality midfielder with proven Premiership experience that can score 10 goals a season and contribute immensely to the team's attacking qualities?  Is he f##k!!!  Someone PLEASE come in and buy our club!!!!
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Postby akumaface » Mon May 31, 2010 11:09 am

This is so depressing. If we can't even hold on to Beni, next season would be worse than this one for sure. Obviously Hicks and Gillette will only look after their interest and not the club's interest. Now that some kind of truth had revealed itself, they no longer need to pretend to be innocent bystander and will just show their evil self if it means selling Gerrard or Torres to cover their big fat old American A.sses.
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Postby fivecups » Mon May 31, 2010 11:17 am

haps wrote:I think it's very sad to see where we've come to:  All this talk of selling players. .. Do we take £6m or £8m?  Blah blah.  Benayoun is a quality player JUST turned 30.  He's a potential matchwinner.  He's great on the ball and in form, he can run a game for us, score goals, everything.  He's also been seeing plenty of action on the pitch this past season.  Put it the other way - say Villa had Yossi and we heard he was going for around that price, we'd jump at it.  Wouldn't we?  Why are we selling these players??  Aurelio's about to go through necessity / injury concerns.  Good luck to him.  Did a good job when fit and called upon but Yossi's different.  I know it's just a different time now in football but it's still sad to see LFC selling on it's talent.  What's Rafa going to do with £6m?  Buy a quality midfielder with proven Premiership experience that can score 10 goals a season and contribute immensely to the team's attacking qualities?  Is he f##k!!!  Someone PLEASE come in and buy our club!!!!

Spot on Haps!
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Postby fivecups » Mon May 31, 2010 11:22 am

akumaface wrote:This is so depressing. If we can't even hold on to Beni, next season would be worse than this one for sure. Obviously Hicks and Gillette will only look after their interest and not the club's interest. Now that some kind of truth had revealed itself, they no longer need to pretend to be innocent bystander and will just show their evil self if it means selling Gerrard or Torres to cover their big fat old American A.sses.

Hopefully we'll see a surge of new member joining SOS. I think the situation has got so dire that it's essential for supporters to unite and take action against those who are destroying this football club.

It's unequivical now, the club is at real risk. Supporters can make a difference with well orgainsed protest in these situations.
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Postby sixbuster » Mon May 31, 2010 12:04 pm

Hold on are we losing our minds here regarding potential cost of replacement, if we get 6mill rafa will only at best get 2-3 to get a relacement when we are loing  110,000 a day
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Postby PabloAimar » Mon May 31, 2010 12:21 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
PabloAimar wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/footbal....ontract

The Israeli anticipates the completion of his move to Stamford Bridge over the next few days having indicated last week while on international duty that Chelsea were keen to sign him. "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool," he said. "Chelsea will have to pay some £6m, but I believe that, in the end, I'll be moving there."

His market value probably is around £6M - but we shouldn't be selling him for less than £15-20M because that's how much [b]rafa would need to find an adequate replacement.[\b]

Hardly. How much did Benitez buy him for in the first place? 4 million? So why would it take 4 times that amount to find someone the same or better? In fact, it wouldn't be too difficult to find someone better for the 8 million supposedly offered for him, which should be taken. It's amazing how you value a average player to be as high as 15 million pounds worth more so than the judgement of a manager that bought him for virtually peanuts and will most certainly get close to double the amount paid.

£8M? similar to the amount spent on Riera? Dosenna? Pennant? Lucas?

I honestly hope he can find a replacement for the same value but his quotes of needing 4-5 players costing £15-20M earlier in the season don't fill me with confidence in his own confidence in the transfer market. The point I meant to make was that to me, Benayoun should be a starter every game (as he became last season - 2008/09) and rafa is rarely successful when looking for bargain players for the first team.

Maybe if rafa spent less time complaining about not having £80M to spend this summer on 4/5 players, Adam Johnson wouldn't have ended up at City for £7M. Maybe he'd hear the cries from Arda Turan and maybe he'd realise Joe Cole is available on a free transfer this season. But that's another topic.
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Postby maguskwt » Mon May 31, 2010 2:24 pm

PabloAimar wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
PabloAimar wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/footbal....ontract

The Israeli anticipates the completion of his move to Stamford Bridge over the next few days having indicated last week while on international duty that Chelsea were keen to sign him. "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool," he said. "Chelsea will have to pay some £6m, but I believe that, in the end, I'll be moving there."

His market value probably is around £6M - but we shouldn't be selling him for less than £15-20M because that's how much [b]rafa would need to find an adequate replacement.[\b]

Hardly. How much did Benitez buy him for in the first place? 4 million? So why would it take 4 times that amount to find someone the same or better? In fact, it wouldn't be too difficult to find someone better for the 8 million supposedly offered for him, which should be taken. It's amazing how you value a average player to be as high as 15 million pounds worth more so than the judgement of a manager that bought him for virtually peanuts and will most certainly get close to double the amount paid.

£8M? similar to the amount spent on Riera? Dosenna? Pennant? Lucas?

I honestly hope he can find a replacement for the same value but his quotes of needing 4-5 players costing £15-20M earlier in the season don't fill me with confidence in his own confidence in the transfer market. The point I meant to make was that to me, Benayoun should be a starter every game (as he became last season - 2008/09) and rafa is rarely successful when looking for bargain players for the first team.

Maybe if rafa spent less time complaining about not having £80M to spend this summer on 4/5 players, Adam Johnson wouldn't have ended up at City for £7M. Maybe he'd hear the cries from Arda Turan and maybe he'd realise Joe Cole is available on a free transfer this season. But that's another topic.

You are only considering transfer money, what about the player's salary?if someone is paying you 45k a week and a other 60k a week who would you sign for?
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Postby Homebooby » Mon May 31, 2010 2:28 pm

haps wrote:I think it's very sad to see where we've come to:  All this talk of selling players. .. Do we take £6m or £8m?  Blah blah.  Benayoun is a quality player JUST turned 30.  He's a potential matchwinner.  He's great on the ball and in form, he can run a game for us, score goals, everything.  He's also been seeing plenty of action on the pitch this past season.  Put it the other way - say Villa had Yossi and we heard he was going for around that price, we'd jump at it.  Wouldn't we?  Why are we selling these players??  Aurelio's about to go through necessity / injury concerns.  Good luck to him.  Did a good job when fit and called upon but Yossi's different.  I know it's just a different time now in football but it's still sad to see LFC selling on it's talent.  What's Rafa going to do with £6m?  Buy a quality midfielder with proven Premiership experience that can score 10 goals a season and contribute immensely to the team's attacking qualities?  Is he f##k!!!  Someone PLEASE come in and buy our club!!!!

I am surprised to see him being linked with a move away cos he was definitely one of the people we would look to to give us a shake up through most of last season. I can think of a lot more people I would lose less sleep over them leaving.

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Postby PabloAimar » Mon May 31, 2010 2:43 pm

maguskwt wrote:
PabloAimar wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
PabloAimar wrote:http://www.guardian.co.uk/footbal....ontract

The Israeli anticipates the completion of his move to Stamford Bridge over the next few days having indicated last week while on international duty that Chelsea were keen to sign him. "Ancelotti wants me for next season and now everything depends on Liverpool," he said. "Chelsea will have to pay some £6m, but I believe that, in the end, I'll be moving there."

His market value probably is around £6M - but we shouldn't be selling him for less than £15-20M because that's how much [b]rafa would need to find an adequate replacement.[\b]

Hardly. How much did Benitez buy him for in the first place? 4 million? So why would it take 4 times that amount to find someone the same or better? In fact, it wouldn't be too difficult to find someone better for the 8 million supposedly offered for him, which should be taken. It's amazing how you value a average player to be as high as 15 million pounds worth more so than the judgement of a manager that bought him for virtually peanuts and will most certainly get close to double the amount paid.

£8M? similar to the amount spent on Riera? Dosenna? Pennant? Lucas?

I honestly hope he can find a replacement for the same value but his quotes of needing 4-5 players costing £15-20M earlier in the season don't fill me with confidence in his own confidence in the transfer market. The point I meant to make was that to me, Benayoun should be a starter every game (as he became last season - 2008/09) and rafa is rarely successful when looking for bargain players for the first team.

Maybe if rafa spent less time complaining about not having £80M to spend this summer on 4/5 players, Adam Johnson wouldn't have ended up at City for £7M. Maybe he'd hear the cries from Arda Turan and maybe he'd realise Joe Cole is available on a free transfer this season. But that's another topic.

You are only considering transfer money, what about the player's salary?if someone is paying you 45k a week and a other 60k a week who would you sign for?


I'd rather look at it from the club's perspective...

If the player on £60K was a free transfer and the player on £45K cost £5M?

Over 4 years the free transfer (on £60K p/w) would work out cheaper so yes, that's the player I'd go for. Chances are, if the player is deserving of £60K p/w, he's better than the one asking for £45K p/w. Of course, you'd also make 100% profit on the player if you decided to sell him for any fee in January.

Then again, it seems the majority of players under Rafa don't stay for more than 2/3 years. Not a dig, just an observation.
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