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by **RED BEERGOGGLES** » Mon May 17, 2010 10:05 pm

Pizza Breakfasts are you sure :laugh:

by **bigmick** » Tue May 18, 2010 8:36 am

I can't for the life of me see what's controversial about the comments. We were fifth in Benitez's first season in charge (fourth the season before he arrived) and now we're seventh. I know it would be very friendly of Mourinho to join the fan club and worship at the Benitez alter, but since people on here are very much into the FACTS these days, I don't see how you can argue with his analysis re us.

On the Mancs it is obvious they missed Ronaldo, he is the World player of the year after all, and he didn't even mention Tevez. Arsenal as he says are brittle, even more so when they sell their best defender and their best striker for 40 million quid combined.

And I agree with him that Man City and Tottenham have improved from his day, Villa also. I'm not sure Blackburn have though and they've closed right up on us, while I'm pretty sure that this Everton team isn't as good as the one that finished above Rafa in his first season. They're not as good, but they came within two points of demoting us into eighth. It hardly points to massive improvement does it?

by **red37** » Tue May 18, 2010 9:54 pm

F*cking nowt wrong with cold Pizza for brekkie on a sunday morning :eyebrow

by **NANNY RED** » Tue May 18, 2010 11:09 pm

He will be announced as the new Real Madrid Manager next week

by **Lando_Griffin** » Wed May 19, 2010 1:44 am

s@int wrote:Mourinho: Liverpool is an incredible phenomenon

Author: Andrew Allen
Inter Milan manager Jose Mourinho has taken a veiled swipe at the current standard of the Premier League as he ran the rule over the achievements of Carlo Ancelotti in his first season in charge of Chelsea. The Italian coach saw his Stamford Bridge outfit secure their first Double when they beat Portsmouth on Saturday at Wembley; a feat that not even the ‘Special One’ achieved despite his considerable success in England. However, speaking ahead of this weekend’s Champions League final the Portuguese coach stressed that while he was pleased for the Blues, it was the lack of consistency amongst their rivals which opened the door for more silverware in west London. Pinpointing the struggles faced by Manchester United, Arsenal and Liverpool, Mourinho also took time to dismiss championship challenge from the likes of Tottenham Hotspur, Aston Villa and Manchester City.

Mourinho won the Premier League title twice while coach at Chelsea, beating off competition from Arsene Wenger’s ‘invincible’ Arsenal side to win the title by 12 points in 2004-05 before retaining their crown by holding off the likes of Rafael Benitez’s Liverpool and Sir Alex Ferguson’s previously dominant Manchester United.

Quitting the following season to be replaced by Avram Grant, Mourinho’s former side reached the Champions League final in Moscow, only to be beaten by Manchester United on penalties. Having also surrendered their Premier League title to the men from Old Trafford and subsequently seen Liverpool overtake them in the league in 2008-09 it has been a resurgent Chelsea side who have confidently taken the field under Ancelotti in the last nine months. Speaking to the Sunday Times about the competition he faced in England, Mourinho started by targeting Arsene Wenger's shift in philosophy at Arsenal before hammering Liverpool for their gradual decline:

“Arsenal won it in an incredible way [2003-04] and after that they thought they could win in a different way.

“They cannot win it in a different way. Either they go back to where they were or they don’t do it.

“Man United lost Ronaldo. Okay, the coach is a tremendous coach, the team is full of great players, but Ronaldo is Ronaldo, and he scores 30 goals a season. Ronaldo wins points and points and points. When a club and the league loses a player like Ronaldo it loses a lot.

“Liverpool is an incredible phenomenon. From 2004 to 2010 it looks like the team instead of improving is getting worse. Tottenham is coming, Aston Villa is coming, Man City is coming, but I think that magic of a fight of titans, all of them very, very strong in the top of the League, I don’t see this season was like this.

“Chelsea were out of Champions League very, very soon. They could concentrate on the championship — and they did it very well. Carlo is very experienced, he kept the team calm and focused, and he didn’t let them lose focus and confidence. They concentrate very, very well in the championship, and they deserve to win it in the end.”

LINK

Give a c*nt a soap box and he'll wash his dirty laundry.

The bitter little grease-ball couldn't keep the easiest job in World football - he truly is special...

Maybe we should start calling him "Timmy".

by **andy_g** » Wed May 19, 2010 10:17 am

oh my furking god! how can the man have the sheer nerve, the balls, the cheekiness and the impudence to even suggest that it 'looks like' liverpool are going backwards?? damn him straight to hell. and his wife and children too.

dirty, nasty greaseball foreigner. give me bland and boring people, o Lord, i beg you!!

:angry:

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed May 19, 2010 10:44 am

He is currently claiming that the CL Final is a bigger game than the world cup final - so going by that then back in 05 he stated the prem was bigger than the CL so the prem is bigger than the world cup ?!

by **bigmick** » Wed May 19, 2010 12:36 pm

I saw the interview myself, and he said "to me, the Champions League final is bigger than the World Cup final because the teams are better". In that sense (the teams being better) he is of course correct. I disagree though if he is implying (and I don't think he is) that the Champions League final holds more prestige etc.

by **bunglemark2** » Wed May 19, 2010 12:43 pm

Know what ? He's right. We ARE going backwards....One exceptional season where we finished 2nd, and - in my opinion, based on the cumulative quality we have amassed at the club, coupled with unfortunately timed injuries to key players to a lesser extent - we are probably just about where we have a right to be right now.

by **Benny The Noon** » Wed May 19, 2010 7:19 pm

Inter Milan coach Jose Mourinho says the Champions League is a bigger competition than the World Cup.

His team play Bayern Munich in the final at Madrid's Bernabeu Stadium on Saturday, and the celebrated Portuguese coach is clear about the game's status.

"This game is the most important in the world," said 47-year-old Mourinho.

"It is even bigger than the World Cup because the teams in it are at a higher level than national teams, who can't buy the best players."

Mourinho has led Inter to their first European Cup final since 1972, when they lost to Netherlands club Ajax. It is even longer since Inter last held the cup, in 1965.

After being eliminated in the first knockout round in the previous two seasons, Inter ousted this year's Premier League winners Chelsea, CSKA Moscow and finally defending champions Barcelona to reach Saturday's final.

Barcelona won the second leg of the semi-final 1-0 at Camp Nou but Inter advanced to the final with a 3-2 aggregate victory.

Inter were accused in some quarters of playing overly negative football in Barcelona, while others defended Mourinho's brilliant tactics as the Catalans' Argentine playmaker Lionel Messi was kept quiet.

Mourinho reflected: "I think that this season I haven't seen a match like the one between Inter and Barcelona at the San Siro.

"I haven't seen a team play the way we did. We attacked aggressively against the champions of Europe. We scored three goals against the champions of Europe.

"We won the tie in Barcelona, but everyone talks about Barcelona winning and says we parked the bus in front of the goal. We didn't park the bus, we parked the airplane and we did it for two reasons.

"One, because we only had 10 men and two, because we beat them 3-1 at San Siro, not by parking the bus, or the boat or the airplane, but by smashing them at the San Siro."

Both Inter and Munich will be missing important players in the first Champions League final to be held on a Saturday as each club chases unique "trebles", having won domestic league and cup doubles.

Inter are without midfielder Thiago Motta, while Munich will line up without winger Franck Ribery. Both men were sent off in the semi-finals and as a result are suspended.

by **Sabre** » Thu May 20, 2010 7:24 am

Well it seems Mou is going to be the next Real Madrid manager.

Mou said that he missed England, and apparently Mou also said Liverpool was a team that could perfectly win the league, yet he didn't put his facts where his mouth was, and he's going to take the secure way of having lots of millions at his disposal.

Anyhow it seems it's going to be an interesting challenge. Will he end with the Barcelona power that now is reinforced with Villa and Silva? We'll we see Real Madrid again in the CL finals at least? it will be an interesting challenge for Mou

by **bigmick** » Thu May 20, 2010 8:24 am

It is a big challenge, no doubt about it. No doubt if he wins La Liga and leads Madrid to victory in the Champions League final, as well as winning the domestic cup and showing a profit on transfers there'll be many on here who say he just got lucky :laugh:

Just like there's many on here who say he wouldn't have outperformed Benitez at Liverpool all things being equal. I actually think that if Benitez could have found somewhere to go, he might have gone to Liverpool just for the sheer challenge of the thing (I know many don't believe that to be the case, but I know as much about the inner thoughts of the best manager in the World today as they do and that's my guess). The trouble is/was, as has been stated many times the owners were never going to sack Benitez, and Benitez was never going to turn his back on 16 million quid.

Hopefully before too many more seasons we can get ourselves back into the top four and then we can have a go at playing Madrid again.

by **Big Niall** » Thu May 20, 2010 1:21 pm

I hope Inter win the final - I like Jose, a proper manager.

He is right about the world cup too, it isn't what it used to be as we see all the top players throughout the year so there isn't the same awe at seeing all these skillful foreigners strut their stuff.

by **LFC2007** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:42 pm

Winning serie 'a' was never going to be that much of a challenge given the squad he inherited and the level of competition. AC/Juve/Roma are a pale shadow of what they used to be; Milan where walloped by not the best Man U side of all time and have been dour in the league for time, Juve were overturned by Fulham and have had a shocking domestic campaign, while Roma didn't even qualify for the UCL and got dumped out of the EL by Panathinaikos; they just aren't that good I'm afraid. Had Inter not won against Siena then Roma would have won the league on their head to head record (I think), which is saying something. That said, winning the coppa Italia and making the CL final alongside that title victory makes it a special season for them nonetheless.

Real Madrid will present a similar sort of challenge in that there is lots of pressure but the squad he will inherit contains a ridiclous level of ability and money will likely be no object anyway. Difference is, he'll have genuine competition in the league this time, albeit from just the one team. We speculate about what he would be able to achieve with a club like ourselves - as a test of how "special" his abilities are, but until he actually takes on that level risk we won't know. Don't get me wrong, I think he's great manager - that's self-evident - but how far do his abilities stretch? Can he perform similarly well at a club with relatively limited resources in a strong league as against clubs who are either already dominant or who can blow the transfer market to pieces?

by **Benny The Noon** » Fri May 21, 2010 7:51 pm

If Inter don't win the CL then I think I'm right by saying Mancini's record at Inter would be better than Maureens - 3 Straight titles and 2 Cup wins

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