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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 09, 2010 12:47 am

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Igor Zidane wrote:Who's segregating you , SOS is made up of match going fans none maych going fans , southerners , northerners , people from other countries , lawyers ,doctors ,solicitors , labourers , unemployed . From all walks of life , there's no segregation . All there is,is a commom aim . SOS is percieved by some as a scouse only bunch of thugs and that's so far from the truth .Infact it's the complete opposite .

I dont perceive them as thugs, far from it. I just dont see the point in joining. Whether I sit here as I am or join up, nothing will change my points of view with regards to the club.

Do you not see though mate that there is stregnth in numbers .The more people that join ,the more chance we have of doing something about it . Look at SOS's record . We've had various meeting with the club , with DIC ,with Thomas cook with Purslow .We've got a meeting with the Premier league next week . We've managed to stop the owners getting in the ground , and out of the ground on another occassion .That's with 5,000 members . Imagine what we could achieve with 20,000 members or more .
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 09, 2010 12:48 am

Rush Job wrote:Igor lad do you know if there is talk going on within sos about trying to put together a fan bid for the club?

It's being looked into mate .
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 09, 2010 12:48 am

Reg wrote:Igor, I've paid my money, I'm now a member. :;):


'Go get 'em Floyd'.

Welcome aboard Reg , your input will be invaluable .  :bowdown
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Postby Kharhaz » Sun May 09, 2010 1:05 am

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Igor Zidane wrote:Who's segregating you , SOS is made up of match going fans none maych going fans , southerners , northerners , people from other countries , lawyers ,doctors ,solicitors , labourers , unemployed . From all walks of life , there's no segregation . All there is,is a commom aim . SOS is percieved by some as a scouse only bunch of thugs and that's so far from the truth .Infact it's the complete opposite .

I dont perceive them as thugs, far from it. I just dont see the point in joining. Whether I sit here as I am or join up, nothing will change my points of view with regards to the club.

Do you not see though mate that there is stregnth in numbers .The more people that join ,the more chance we have of doing something about it . Look at SOS's record . We've had various meeting with the club , with DIC ,with Thomas cook with Purslow .We've got a meeting with the Premier league next week . We've managed to stop the owners getting in the ground , and out of the ground on another occassion .That's with 5,000 members . Imagine what we could achieve with 20,000 members or more .

I do see, and your right there is strength in numbers. So come match day, rather than try to attract new members, why dont you use the numbers that are there on matchday. Im guessing if leaflets were handed out on matchday to supporters to wave in the support of ridding the club of the owners, they would wave them. If the SOS asked the supporters to show there support in the SOS campaign then surely they would.
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Postby Reg » Sun May 09, 2010 1:08 am

Tomorrow is the LAST AND ONLY CHANCE in the coming months to protest at a game against the accounts.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 09, 2010 1:40 am

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Igor Zidane wrote:Who's segregating you , SOS is made up of match going fans none maych going fans , southerners , northerners , people from other countries , lawyers ,doctors ,solicitors , labourers , unemployed . From all walks of life , there's no segregation . All there is,is a commom aim . SOS is percieved by some as a scouse only bunch of thugs and that's so far from the truth .Infact it's the complete opposite .

I dont perceive them as thugs, far from it. I just dont see the point in joining. Whether I sit here as I am or join up, nothing will change my points of view with regards to the club.

Do you not see though mate that there is stregnth in numbers .The more people that join ,the more chance we have of doing something about it . Look at SOS's record . We've had various meeting with the club , with DIC ,with Thomas cook with Purslow .We've got a meeting with the Premier league next week . We've managed to stop the owners getting in the ground , and out of the ground on another occassion .That's with 5,000 members . Imagine what we could achieve with 20,000 members or more .

I do see, and your right there is strength in numbers. So come match day, rather than try to attract new members, why dont you use the numbers that are there on matchday. Im guessing if leaflets were handed out on matchday to supporters to wave in the support of ridding the club of the owners, they would wave them. If the SOS asked the supporters to show there support in the SOS campaign then surely they would.

No mate , because there 's been problems in the past with protests inside the ground .Some fans think that we should just be supporting the team inside the ground . This might change next season , as hopefully most fans can see how bad things are and unfortunatley the team is secondary .
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Postby Kharhaz » Sun May 09, 2010 1:53 am

Igor Zidane wrote:No mate , because there 's been problems in the past with protests inside the ground .Some fans think that we should just be supporting the team inside the ground . This might change next season , as hopefully most fans can see how bad things are and unfortunatley the team is secondary .

And there it is. The SOS are no different to forums opinions. The SOS have their opinion and try to influence others, and as you have said, have failed.

It confirms my doubts about the SOS, all members of SOS are trying to influence the supporters at the ground, and they are there to support the team. Just like the rafa supporters try to put forward there view as to why rafa is good for the club, just like the people who accept rafa isnt good for the club.

Its all down to my point of just simply being an LFC supporter. And thats hard enough.

You say this might change next season, it wont. We are all supporters of Liverpool, and we can all see where the problems lye. A mass structural change is whats needed, not just in one place.
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 09, 2010 10:24 am

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Igor Zidane wrote:No mate , because there 's been problems in the past with protests inside the ground .Some fans think that we should just be supporting the team inside the ground . This might change next season , as hopefully most fans can see how bad things are and unfortunatley the team is secondary .

And there it is. The SOS are no different to forums opinions. The SOS have their opinion and try to influence others, and as you have said, have failed.

It confirms my doubts about the SOS, all members of SOS are trying to influence the supporters at the ground, and they are there to support the team. Just like the rafa supporters try to put forward there view as to why rafa is good for the club, just like the people who accept rafa isnt good for the club.

Its all down to my point of just simply being an LFC supporter. And thats hard enough.

You say this might change next season, it wont. We are all supporters of Liverpool, and we can all see where the problems lye. A mass structural change is whats needed, not just in one place.

Ok mate fair enough , i've tried.  :)
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Postby Sabre » Sun May 09, 2010 11:25 am

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Igor Zidane wrote:No mate , because there 's been problems in the past with protests inside the ground .Some fans think that we should just be supporting the team inside the ground . This might change next season , as hopefully most fans can see how bad things are and unfortunatley the team is secondary .

And there it is. The SOS are no different to forums opinions. The SOS have their opinion and try to influence others, and as you have said, have failed.

Forums opinions are a pile of bytes that go nowhere, like a bottomless sack.

The opinions that are backed by actual people with names and surnames, when they get strength, when they reach the press because of that strenght, they become important.

It's not the same thing, Purslow will never agree to meet Bigmick just because he's an influential forum member, but he has met an association of supporters, why? because anonymous internet forums do not count as much as real people with names.
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Postby metalhead » Sun May 09, 2010 11:31 am

I'm joining and Ill bring in the lebanese red army with me :buttrock:
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Postby mart » Sun May 09, 2010 11:33 am

You should get the entire stadium screaming "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!"
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 09, 2010 11:36 am

Ok so we've got a great response so far . We've got 6 new members joining up since this thread was put up last night . I'm so proud of this forum . When the :censored: hits the fan and it has as we know , we come together . Lets keep it going now .

For the people joing up , SOS are expecting a backlog because of so many joining up on this and other forums . You will get your packs ,but a little patience is needed . Well proud of you lot .
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Postby metalhead » Sun May 09, 2010 11:43 am

What's in the pack mate, sorry for asking
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Postby Igor Zidane » Sun May 09, 2010 11:54 am

metalhead wrote:What's in the pack mate, sorry for asking

It's your badge and membership card mate and some welcoming stuff on the history of the union and its aims .
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Postby Redangel » Sun May 09, 2010 12:56 pm

I have avoided joining up 'till now, because I was not entirely comfortable with some of the things I was hearing. However I have been reading some of the posts in this thread and talking to fellow supporters and I have just joined. I just feel that at least it's doing something.
I am heartbroken at the mess these two have got our club into , and I want to be apart of trying to do something about it, and right now SOS is about the best hope we've got ! If things go the way some are predicting ,I would never forgive myself if I hadn't at least tried to make a difference.
I really do think some people need to wake up and smell the coffee , this football club is in a very precarious position , and our focus has to be the owners, they are our biggest problem and until they're gone we will not move forward on or off the pitch. :angry:
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