Liverpool FC Forum

[Sir Roger]

Voronin is not and never will be good enough to play for LFC. He seems more interested in the state of his hair than how his team mates are doing. He is an average player at best who looks more like a Ukrainian porn star rather than a credible talented footballer
Get rid asap

[footballcrystal7]

Only missed about two of Liverpools games this year and saw quite a lot last year. Voronin as said before is not good enough for a championship winning team. He looks unlikely to get goals and gives the ball away too cheaply. It would be best to move him on, but the timing has to be right. Voronin was bought for free to be a 4th choice striker. Due to money problems he has moved up the pecking order, but you will still make a profit on him when he goes. A gamble, which did not pay off, but hardly a disaster.

[Sir Roger]

Only missed about two of Liverpools games this year and saw quite a lot last year. Voronin as said before is not good enough for a championship winning team. He looks unlikely to get goals and gives the ball away too cheaply. It would be best to move him on, but the timing has to be right. Voronin was bought for free to be a 4th choice striker. Due to money problems he has moved up the pecking order, but you will still make a profit on him when he goes. A gamble, which did not pay off, but hardly a disaster.

While the likes of Voronin pulls on a red shirt and gets on the pitch then I believe it is a disaster with regards to pushing to win the league. We should never be playing the likes of him. Especially when we have lost the likes of Crouch, Keane and Bellamy. Even Owen is better than him. I honestly would never let him near a red jersey again

[footballcrystal7]

Only missed about two of Liverpools games this year and saw quite a lot last year. Voronin as said before is not good enough for a championship winning team. He looks unlikely to get goals and gives the ball away too cheaply. It would be best to move him on, but the timing has to be right. Voronin was bought for free to be a 4th choice striker. Due to money problems he has moved up the pecking order, but you will still make a profit on him when he goes. A gamble, which did not pay off, but hardly a disaster.

While the likes of Voronin pulls on a red shirt and gets on the pitch then I believe it is a disaster with regards to pushing to win the league. We should never be playing the likes of him. Especially when we have lost the likes of Crouch, Keane and Bellamy. Even Owen is better than him. I honestly would never let him near a red jersey again

It all goes back to finances again. I agree Crouch, Bellamy and Keane are far better players and you would be crazy to not want them in the team, but Keane cost 19 million and was not playing like a 19 million player. He had to be sold to balance the books and invest in another player. Crouch was good, but again he was sold for a profit of about 4 million. Bellamy is a known trouble maker and had to go for outside footballing reasons, but even then he went for a slight profit. In life you generally get what you pay for. Voronin is bad and him playing is not great. Yet as I said before he will be most likely sold for a profit, which can be invested into a better player. Personally I would prefer a youngster from the academy to take his place, but maybe they are not ready. Playing a youngster too soon can be just as damaging as never given them the chance.

[Sir Roger]

Only missed about two of Liverpools games this year and saw quite a lot last year. Voronin as said before is not good enough for a championship winning team. He looks unlikely to get goals and gives the ball away too cheaply. It would be best to move him on, but the timing has to be right. Voronin was bought for free to be a 4th choice striker. Due to money problems he has moved up the pecking order, but you will still make a profit on him when he goes. A gamble, which did not pay off, but hardly a disaster.

While the likes of Voronin pulls on a red shirt and gets on the pitch then I believe it is a disaster with regards to pushing to win the league. We should never be playing the likes of him. Especially when we have lost the likes of Crouch, Keane and Bellamy. Even Owen is better than him. I honestly would never let him near a red jersey again

It all goes back to finances again. I agree Crouch, Bellamy and Keane are far better players and you would be crazy to not want them in the team, but Keane cost 19 million and was not playing like a 19 million player. He had to be sold to balance the books and invest in another player. Crouch was good, but again he was sold for a profit of about 4 million. Bellamy is a known trouble maker and had to go for outside footballing reasons, but even then he went for a slight profit. In life you generally get what you pay for. Voronin is bad and him playing is not great. Yet as I said before he will be most likely sold for a profit, which can be invested into a better player. Personally I would prefer a youngster from the academy to take his place, but maybe they are not ready. Playing a youngster too soon can be just as damaging as never given them the chance.

I would rather play Sammy Lee than Voronin

[Reg]

Being a bit harsh there Sir Woger, Voronin played regular first team footie last year in Germany and did a credible job. Here he's used as a spare príck at a wedding and thats exactly how he feels and its written all over his face.

Its not an ideal situation and the player can see his career going down the pan so how would you feel?

[JC_81]

Voronin was the only player on  the LFC bench not celebrating when Ngog scored the goal against United, in fact his face was absolutely tripping him.  Jealousy?  Indifference?  Certainly one of the two.  No talent.  No passion.  Waste of space.  Get rid.

[RedBen]

Voronin was the only player on  the LFC bench not celebrating when Ngog scored the goal against United, in fact his face was absolutely tripping him.  Jealousy?  Indifference?  Certainly one of the two.  No talent.  No passion.  Waste of space.  Get rid.

Rafa wasn't exactly running around either was he? I'm not a big fan of Voronin myself, but I'm not going to judge him on his celebrations when we score.

[Dazzer]

Voronin was the only player on  the LFC bench not celebrating when Ngog scored the goal against United, in fact his face was absolutely tripping him.  Jealousy?  Indifference?  Certainly one of the two.  No talent.  No passion.  Waste of space.  Get rid.

Rafa wasn't exactly running around either was he? I'm not a big fan of Voronin myself, but I'm not going to judge him on his celebrations when we score.

Thats one of problems I have with Rafa as well tho as well to cold.

[JC_81]

Voronin was the only player on  the LFC bench not celebrating when Ngog scored the goal against United, in fact his face was absolutely tripping him.  Jealousy?  Indifference?  Certainly one of the two.  No talent.  No passion.  Waste of space.  Get rid.

Rafa wasn't exactly running around either was he? I'm not a big fan of Voronin myself, but I'm not going to judge him on his celebrations when we score.

Do you think my entire opinion of the player was formed on the spot during a 2 second snapshot shown on skysports on Sunday of him not celebrating a team mate's goal?

Of course not, but it's an observation that I feel is significant.

I have already judged him though, by his performances on the pitch, which have been consistently sh.it

[Reg]

Voronin was the only player on  the LFC bench not celebrating when Ngog scored the goal against United, in fact his face was absolutely tripping him.  Jealousy?  Indifference?  Certainly one of the two.  No talent.  No passion.  Waste of space.  Get rid.

Rafa wasn't exactly running around either was he? I'm not a big fan of Voronin myself, but I'm not going to judge him on his celebrations when we score.

Do you think my entire opinion of the player was formed on the spot during a 2 second snapshot shown on skysports on Sunday of him not celebrating a team mate's goal?

Of course not, but it's an observation that I feel is significant.

I have already judged him though, by his performances on the pitch, which have been consistently sh.it

Let me change my post a bit becuase I think its a relevant point:

'Being a bit harsh there John, Voronin played regular first team footie last year in Germany and did a credible job. Here he's used as a spare príck at a wedding and thats exactly how he feels and its written all over his face.

Its not an ideal situation and the player can see his career going down the pan so how would you feel?'

[JC_81]

'Being a bit harsh there John, Voronin played regular first team footie last year in Germany and did a credible job. Here he's used as a spare príck at a wedding and thats exactly how he feels and its written all over his face.

Its not an ideal situation and the player can see his career going down the pan so how would you feel?'

Fair enough Reg, it's possible he feels that way mate.

Fact is though, in a worldwide economic crisis that lad's getting paid a shedload more than probably (no... definitely) any other club in the world would be paying him right now.  Does he really have the right to sit there sulking?  I can think of plenty of people worse off than poor Andrey these days.  That's my take on it anyway pal.

If it truly upset him that much being on the bench, I'm sure plenty of clubs would have taken him off our hands if he were to accept a wage cut, I'll bet you the reason no club took him was the wages, not the transfer fee (I believe we'd have accepted quite a small bid to get him off the wage bill).  Speculation of course, but I don't think I'll be far off the mark on this one.

[red till i die!!]

yeah totally agree with this thread.
hes had more than enough chances 1st time around,then goes and has a good season in the bundesligsa,returns and is as bad, if not worse than before!!
in fairness if we could have got anything for him then im sure he would be gone.
its not helping his career either.for his and our sakes just tear up his contract!!!!!

[Reg]

John, ALL these players are paid unjustifiable wages, its shocking and king of the pot is SG on 140 thou a week - its obscene it really is.

[JC_81]

John, ALL these players are paid unjustifiable wages, its shocking and king of the pot is SG on 140 thou a week - its obscene it really is.

Totally mate.  Part of my point is though that I'm not going to feel sorry for one of them because he didn't get picked for the team.

Essentially it's us the supporters that pay these guys wages, never more true than in the current climate where the owners are not putting hands in their pockets unless they're scratching their balls.  For me Reg, Voronin doesn't really have the right to sit there and scowl like he did on Sunday when the WHOLE bench was going crazy.  It just looked like he didn't care, which imo is disrespectful to the fans who fill your wallet and perhaps already feel you don't give everything on the pitch when you do get a rare chance to impress.

Players like Voronin and Babel have had numerous chances to impress and haven't taken them.  Their fault, and I don't sympathise.